Web2py can not be the fastest, but it is the most simple and functional for everyone.
Ovidio Marinho Falcao Neto ITJP.NET.BR ovidio...@gmail.com 83 8826 9088 - Oi 83 9336 3782 - Claro Brasil 2013/7/12 Massimo Di Pierro <massimo.dipie...@gmail.com> > Because I think it is pointless for various reasons: > > 1) I am biased and people outside the community would not trust it > 2) Code changes so it would become obsolete quick > 3) One can produce benchmarks to produce almost any result one wants > 4) People who are concerned about 2x factors in speed are not web2py > audience. The point of web2py is security and speed of development. For > example we can make web2py more than 2x faster moving sessions management > to the app level (like Flask) and not creating the request.env object. Yet > we do not do it. What matters is not speed but scalability and web2py > scales no better or worse than any other major Python framework. > 5) Every time I published any comparison between web2py and other > frameworks in the past, somebody got upset and attacked us. Not worth it. > > On Thursday, 11 July 2013 20:44:07 UTC-5, viniciusban wrote: > >> Massimo, how about you writing an article about this subject and share >> with us? >> >> So, this could be spread. >> >> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Massimo Di Pierro >> <massimo....@gmail.com> wrote: >> > I agree. I will do. >> > >> > On Thursday, 11 July 2013 11:51:39 UTC-5, Arnon Marcus wrote: >> >> >> >> I see. >> >> In that case, I think it would be advisable to note that in >> presentations, >> >> as peope might get the wrong impression... >> >> >> >> On Thursday, July 11, 2013, Massimo Di Pierro <massimo....@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> > It is true but not an issue. Django is faster only in hello world >> >> > examples because does not perform as many header >> validation/conversions as >> >> > web2py does and because you cannot turn off sessions in web2py. As >> soon as >> >> > one uses templates, web2py is faster. If you use databases the speed >> is >> >> > about the same because that becomes the bottle neck. >> >> > Massimo >> >> > >> >> > On Monday, 8 July 2013 17:08:53 UTC-5, Arnon Marcus wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> BTW, is it really true that web2py is twice as slower than django >> >> >> nowadays? >> >> >> How can that be? >> >> >> Didn't it used to be twice as fast? >> >> >> When I first evaluated it 3 years ago, it was by-far the fastest - >> what >> >> >> changed? >> >> >> You said that one of the core principles of accepting changes to >> >> >> web2py, is that they should always make it run faster - never >> slower. Has >> >> >> that principle been broken? >> >> >> And what about the whole ORM-vs-DAL fiasco? Didn't you guys always >> say >> >> >> that a DAL is always faster than an ORM? Given that it makes sense, >> how come >> >> >> Django is faster? Shouldn't it's ORM make it slower? >> >> >> And as for executing-vs-importing - didn't you say before that it >> >> >> should be a non-issue in terms of performance? What changed? >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > >> >> > --- >> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >> the >> >> > Google Groups "web2py-users" group. >> >> > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> >> > https://groups.google.com/d/**topic/web2py/kWwIuQjeatQ/**unsubscribe<https://groups.google.com/d/topic/web2py/kWwIuQjeatQ/unsubscribe>. >> >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> >> > web2py+un...@googlegroups.com. >> >> > For more options, visit >> >> > https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out>. >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > --- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> > "web2py-users" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an >> > email to web2py+un...@**googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit >> > https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out>. >> >> > >> > >> > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "web2py-users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.