Web2py can not be the fastest, but it is the most simple and functional for
everyone.




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2013/7/12 Massimo Di Pierro <massimo.dipie...@gmail.com>

> Because I think it is pointless for various reasons:
>
> 1) I am biased and people outside the community would not trust it
> 2) Code changes so it would become obsolete quick
> 3) One can produce benchmarks to produce almost any result one wants
> 4) People who are concerned about 2x factors in speed are not web2py
> audience. The point of web2py is security and speed of development. For
> example we can make web2py more than 2x faster moving sessions management
> to the app level (like Flask) and not creating the request.env object. Yet
> we do not do it. What matters is not speed but scalability and web2py
> scales no better or worse than any other major Python framework.
> 5) Every time I published any comparison between web2py and other
> frameworks in the past, somebody got upset and attacked us. Not worth it.
>
> On Thursday, 11 July 2013 20:44:07 UTC-5, viniciusban wrote:
>
>> Massimo, how about you writing an article about this subject and share
>> with us?
>>
>> So, this could be spread.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Massimo Di Pierro
>> <massimo....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I agree. I will do.
>> >
>> > On Thursday, 11 July 2013 11:51:39 UTC-5, Arnon Marcus wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I see.
>> >> In that case, I think it would be advisable to note that in
>> presentations,
>> >> as peope might get the wrong impression...
>> >>
>> >> On Thursday, July 11, 2013, Massimo Di Pierro <massimo....@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > It is true but not an issue. Django is faster only in hello world
>> >> > examples because does not perform as many header
>> validation/conversions as
>> >> > web2py does and because you cannot turn off sessions in web2py. As
>> soon as
>> >> > one uses templates, web2py is faster. If you use databases the speed
>> is
>> >> > about the same because that becomes the bottle neck.
>> >> > Massimo
>> >> >
>> >> > On Monday, 8 July 2013 17:08:53 UTC-5, Arnon Marcus wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> BTW, is it really true that web2py is twice as slower than django
>> >> >> nowadays?
>> >> >> How can that be?
>> >> >> Didn't it used to be twice as fast?
>> >> >> When I first evaluated it 3 years ago, it was by-far the fastest -
>> what
>> >> >> changed?
>> >> >> You said that one of the core principles of accepting changes to
>> >> >> web2py, is that they should always make it run faster - never
>> slower. Has
>> >> >> that principle been broken?
>> >> >> And what about the whole ORM-vs-DAL fiasco? Didn't you guys always
>> say
>> >> >> that a DAL is always faster than an ORM? Given that it makes sense,
>> how come
>> >> >> Django is faster? Shouldn't it's ORM make it slower?
>> >> >> And as for executing-vs-importing - didn't you say before that it
>> >> >> should be a non-issue in terms of performance? What changed?
>> >> >
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