[web2py] Re: scheduler help

2013-09-24 Thread Antonis Konstantinos Tzorvas
updateMap instead of updateMaps in queue_task... maybe I need to go to bed.. :P thanks a lot and sorry for the inconvenience On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 2:59:02 AM UTC+3, Antonis Konstantinos Tzorvas wrote: > > ok, it was some missing imports, so now i can run my function from the > appadm

[web2py] Re: scheduler help

2013-09-24 Thread Antonis Konstantinos Tzorvas
ok, it was some missing imports, so now i can run my function from the appadmin, but trying to run it with scheduler.queue_task and nothing happens scheduler = Scheduler(db, dict(updateCharts=updateCharts, updateMaps=updateMap)) #in models/scheduler.py scheduler.queue_task(updateMap) #inside a

Re: [web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2013-02-26 Thread Niphlod
On Monday, February 25, 2013 10:59:28 PM UTC+1, Yarin wrote: > > Sweet- looking forward to using the API. Schema changes a pain but done > for right reasons. Can you give more explanation of the immediate=True > param? The app has some docs about it, but to make a tl;dr of it scheduler checks

Re: [web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2013-02-25 Thread Yarin Kessler
Sweet- looking forward to using the API. Schema changes a pain but done for right reasons. Can you give more explanation of the immediate=True param? As for patterns- a basic event calendar would be good demo Thanks for the great work Niphlod On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Niphlod wrote: > r

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2013-02-23 Thread Niphlod
resuming historic thread. Latest commits added a few features, and changed schemas a little (my fault, sorry). Now db schema complies with check_reserved=['all'], so should work in any RDBMS out there: - scheduler_run.output --> scheduler_run.run_output - scheduler_run.result --> scheduler_run.ru

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-24 Thread Niphlod
@Daniel: Ok, I worked out a patch to allows -K app1:group1,app2:group1:group2 (old syntax still works ok). Sent to you privately, can you check it ? On Friday, August 24, 2012 8:51:58 PM UTC+2, Niphlod wrote: > > uhm. You can already change dinamically those just altering the > group_names into

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-24 Thread Niphlod
uhm. You can already change dinamically those just altering the group_names into the scheduler_worker table. But I'll work something out. On Friday, August 24, 2012 8:35:23 PM UTC+2, Daniel Haag wrote: > > You could run different task groups with different privileges/priority > > Am Freitag, 24.

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-24 Thread Daniel Haag
You could run different task groups with different privileges/priority Am Freitag, 24. August 2012 18:13:02 UTC+2 schrieb Niphlod: > > Hi, what use should it have if you have the possibility in your app to do > declare Scheduler(db, group_names=['group1']) ? > > On Friday, August 24, 2012 5:08:23

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-24 Thread Niphlod
Hi, what use should it have if you have the possibility in your app to do declare Scheduler(db, group_names=['group1']) ? On Friday, August 24, 2012 5:08:23 PM UTC+2, Daniel Haag wrote: > > Just a small thing: Is it possible to have the -g option (the groups to be > picked by the worker) when ca

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-24 Thread Niphlod
it's yuml.me, a webapp. On Friday, August 24, 2012 6:07:10 PM UTC+2, Andrew wrote: > > Hi Niphlod, what drawing tool did you use for your diagrams in the > instructions? > Still think your explanations and doco are great. --

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-24 Thread Andrew
Hi Niphlod, what drawing tool did you use for your diagrams in the instructions? Still think your explanations and doco are great. --

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-24 Thread Daniel Haag
Just a small thing: Is it possible to have the -g option (the groups to be picked by the worker) when calling the worker with the -K arg from the main web2py.py? maybe somthing like python web2py.py -K appname(group1,group2,...) Am Donnerstag, 12. Juli 2012 20:36:38 UTC schrieb Niphlod: > > He

Re: [web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-20 Thread Niphlod
hey, more point of views, more eyes on the code = less errors in the code, more understandable docs, etc. Opensource development bases. And I like smart questions :-P On Monday, August 20, 2012 11:41:15 PM UTC+2, Yarin wrote: > > OK i've come around- agree this is the right set up, let's just ma

Re: [web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-20 Thread Yarin
OK i've come around- agree this is the right set up, let's just make sure it's clear in the eventual documentation, as it wasn't obvious to me (not much is these days..) - both retries and repeats respect the period. Cool, i like it. On Sunday, August 19, 2012 7:13:15 AM UTC-4, Niphlod wrote:

Re: [web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-19 Thread Niphlod
I didn't say that you must have to handle exceptions exclusively in your functions, but that if you want a functionality of the kind "execute this for the next 2 minutes and retry ASAP 3 times at most" and still you want to have a single scheduler_task record it's the way to go. Sometimes your

Re: [web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-18 Thread Yarin
OK i didn't understand that retries happened periodically- i indeed thought that it would retry right away, though i agree with you that that should be handled at the function level. But if we're handling failures within the scheduled function, then now im wondering what is the value in having

Re: [web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-18 Thread Niphlod
Ok, got the example. Let's start saying that your requirements can be fullfilled (simply) decorating your function in a loop and break after the first successful attempt (and repeats=0, retry_failed=-1). Given that, the current behaviour is not properly a limit to what you are trying to achieve,

Re: [web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-18 Thread Yarin Kessler
And the reason i think the behavior's inconsistent is because when you complete an attempt on a repeating task it is immediately requeued to fulfill its repeat obligations, and the last go-around is forgotton- so i think failures should be handled the same way. On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Yar

Re: [web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-18 Thread Yarin Kessler
I think retry_failed and repeats are two distinct concepts and shouldn't be mixed. For example, a task set to (repeats=0, retry_failed=0, period=3600) should be able to fail at 2:00pm, but will try again at 3:00pm regardless of what happened at 2:00. Likewise, if it was set to (repeats=0, retry_f

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-18 Thread Niphlod
Can you elaborate further on the inconsistent behaviour ? repeats requeues the task n times (defaults to only completed tasks) and retry_failed make them requeued if execution fails. You have parameters to let the task be like a cron one (repeats=0, retry_failed=-1). You have also all the bits

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-18 Thread Yarin
I've noticed that repeating tasks that fail during a certain period are no longer repeated and the task is turned to FAILED. I think this is inconsistent behavior. The better approach would be: - Allow a periodic task to fail during a given period - Reset the task to QUEUED, just like when

Re: [web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-14 Thread Yarin Kessler
10 4 - thanks On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 7:48 PM, niphlod wrote: > Nope, that goes wyyy over the scheduler "responsibility". Prune all > records, prune only completed, prune only failed, requeue timeoutted, prune > every day, every hour, etc, etc, etc these are implementation details > that

Re: [web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-14 Thread niphlod
Nope, that goes wyyy over the scheduler "responsibility". Prune all records, prune only completed, prune only failed, requeue timeoutted, prune every day, every hour, etc, etc, etc these are implementation details that belongs to the application. We though that since it is all recorded and

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-14 Thread Yarin
Niphlod- has there been any discussion about a param for clearing out old records on the runs and tasks tables? Maybe a retain_results or retain_completed value that specifies a period for which records will be kept? On Thursday, July 12, 2012 4:36:38 PM UTC-4, Niphlod wrote: > > Hello everybod

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-14 Thread Niphlod
> That's great! If you want I can test it. > No problem, that is easy to test and it's working well. > I wouldn't consider this an issue, actually it's a feature, isn't it? > I'm ok with that if users won't start asking why there is the full traceback instead of the "restricted" version of

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-14 Thread Daniel Haag
Am Montag, 13. August 2012 22:32:19 UTC+2 schrieb Niphlod: > > Ok, done (the "save output for TIMEOUTted tasks"). > That's great! If you want I can test it. > Small issue, but quite manageable: when a task "timeouts" the output now > is saved, and you have the traceback to see "where" it sto

Re: [web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-13 Thread Daniel Haag
Am 14.08.2012 00:45 schrieb "Niphlod" : > > > On Monday, August 13, 2012 4:44:18 PM UTC+2, Daniel Haag wrote: >> >> I don't know if it would work this way but I would be glad if you could give me some feedback (its actually just a proof of concept - but I did already test it a little): >> >> https:

Re: [web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-13 Thread Niphlod
On Monday, August 13, 2012 4:44:18 PM UTC+2, Daniel Haag wrote: > > I don't know if it would work this way but I would be glad if you could > give me some feedback (its actually just a proof of concept - but I did > already test it a little): > > https://github.com/dhx/web2py/compare/scheduler_l

Re: [web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-13 Thread Daniel Haag
Thanks for your response, 2012/8/12 Niphlod > Uhm, serializing part of the output to the table every n seconds - with > the output being a stream - would require a buffer/read/flush to update the > scheduler_run table that I'm not sure it's feasible: I'll look into that > but ATM I'm more concer

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-13 Thread Niphlod
Ok, done (the "save output for TIMEOUTted tasks"). Small issue, but quite manageable: when a task "timeouts" the output now is saved, and you have the traceback to see "where" it stopped. e.g. queue function1 with a timeout of 5 seconds def function1(): time.sleep(3) print "first print"

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-12 Thread Niphlod
Uhm, serializing part of the output to the table every n seconds - with the output being a stream - would require a buffer/read/flush to update the scheduler_run table that I'm not sure it's feasible: I'll look into that but ATM I'm more concerned with other small issues of the Scheduler. I'll d

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-08 Thread Daniel Haag
Hi Niphlod, thanks for the great work with the scheduler, I'm using it in a project where it handles lots of big data imports into a database and the migration to your version was without any problems. On thing catched my eye in the old version and it still seems to be a "problem/missing featu

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-06 Thread Alan Etkin
> I don't think the scheduler would be a solution fit to their structure, and they have their own Scheduled Tasks GAE Scheduled tasks are configured when updating the app with a list in a .yaml file, so I think switching between the normal scheduler and gae scheduler would be very difficult, bu

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-06 Thread Niphlod
I must admit I have no experience on GAE and EC2. On GAE the issues are 2: - no relational db available - is really allowed on GAE to have a long running process that (possibly) never ends ? Is not GAE charging something for every query made on their BigTable db ? I don't think the scheduler wou

Re: [web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-06 Thread Yarin Kessler
Alan- the scheduler relies on a normalized table structure that's impossible to implement in GAE, but the GAE has its own task scheduler if I recall. EC2 should be fine as long as you've got a supported DB somewhere. On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Alan Etkin wrote: > > Feel free to propose feat

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-06 Thread Alan Etkin
> Feel free to propose features you'd like to see in the scheduler, I have some time to spend implementing it. Will (or could) scheduler support multi-platform apps? (EC2, GAE, ...)? --

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-05 Thread Yarin
The next issue is a big one: It's absolutely crucial to be able to operate in UTC mode. Without the ability to store and process schedule data in universal time, there's no way to ensure a schedule's integrity across multiple servers, or even on the same server if time settings are changed. It'

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-05 Thread Yarin
Great, let's get these issues ironed out now- I know the 'repeats' param was part of the older scheduler before you started work on it, but as far as I know it's been experimental up until now and and so future-readiness should trump backwards compatibility at this point. I hope... I'll be test

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-05 Thread Niphlod
I like the idea. The only problem is having people changing repeat to repeats if they're using the scheduler included into the stable version. I don't think that the implementation would be cumbersome, I'll try to compose a patch and send it to Massimo ASAP. On Sunday, August 5, 2012 6:16:55 PM

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-05 Thread Yarin
Let me go further: Field('repeats_failed', 'integer', default=1, comment="0=unlimited"), Should really be: Field('retry_failed', 'integer', default=0, comment="-1=unlimited"), According to the docs, this param is supposed to "set how many times the function can raise an exception ... and be qu

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-05 Thread Yarin
Ok this is clearer to me- I'll see if I can clarify it in the docs.. On to the next issue, this one regarding implementation: I think the following parameters need to be renamed: 1. 'repeats' should be 'repeat' 2. 'repeats_failed' should be 'retry_failed' Let me explain: 1. 'repeat' i

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-05 Thread Niphlod
Hi Yarin, Thank you for testing it! A QUEUED task is not picked up by a worker, it is first ASSIGNED to a worker that can pick up only the ones ASSIGNED to him. The "assignment" phase is important because: - the group_name parameter is honored (task queued with the group_name 'foo' gets assigned

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-08-05 Thread Yarin
@Niphlod- First of all, thanks for taking this on. An effective scheduler is critically important to us, and I'll be glad to help out in any way. I've downloaded the test app and am making corrections to the documentation (per your request) for clarity, grammar, etc. On thing I'm stuck on is

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-07-18 Thread Niphlod
STOPPED tasks gets requeued as soon as there is an ACTIVE worker around. The "philosophy" behind is that if a worker has been stopped (abruptly) your task never finished, so it gets "another shot" with the next worker. The scheduler_run table will grow as long as you need results. As documented,

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-07-17 Thread Andrew
When I Kill a Task, I end up with a Queued Task and a Stopped Scheduler_run. When I restart the worker, should I expect the queued task to then get assigned ? I tried killing the worker in the assigned state, and I noticed it is assigned to a specific worker. If that worker is killed and anot

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-07-17 Thread Andrew
Great Job with packaging up the app and the documentation/instructions. Very impressive. I'll now start testing / familiarising myself with the scheduler > > --

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-07-17 Thread Niphlod
instructions: download the archive from https://github.com/niphlod/w2p_scheduler_tests/zipball/master. the zip contains a folder (now it is named "niphlod-w2p_scheduler_tests-903ee75"). Decompress that folder under "applications" and rename it to "w2p_scheduler_tests". That should be enough O

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-07-16 Thread Pystar
I downloaded the app, tried to upload and install it but it always gives an error message "failed to install app". I also renamed it but no changes On Sunday, July 15, 2012 9:02:01 PM UTC+1, Niphlod wrote: > > Maybe if you tell what issues you have we'll be able to help you . > > > > On Sunda

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-07-15 Thread spiffytech
By the way, I think this app is an *excellent* way to get features tested, and to introduce users to features they might not ordinarily think to use. I'd love to see the idea more-widely adopted! On Thursday, July 12, 2012 4:36:38 PM UTC-4, Niphlod wrote: > > Hello everybody, in the last month

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-07-15 Thread Niphlod
Maybe if you tell what issues you have we'll be able to help you . On Sunday, July 15, 2012 9:58:55 PM UTC+2, Pystar wrote: > > I am having issues installing the app in the web2py 2.0.0 dev version > > On Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:36:38 PM UTC+1, Niphlod wrote: >> >> Hello everybody, in the

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-07-15 Thread Pystar
I am having issues installing the app in the web2py 2.0.0 dev version On Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:36:38 PM UTC+1, Niphlod wrote: > > Hello everybody, in the last month several changes were commited to the > scheduler, in order to improve it. > Table schemas were changed, to add some features tha

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-07-14 Thread spiffytech
All the tests passed for me. On Thursday, July 12, 2012 4:36:38 PM UTC-4, Niphlod wrote: > > Hello everybody, in the last month several changes were commited to the > scheduler, in order to improve it. > Table schemas were changed, to add some features that were missed by some > users. > On the

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-07-13 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
I guess you could create a task that checks for recent failed tasks and sends an email about them. On Friday, 13 July 2012 03:01:31 UTC-5, David Marko wrote: > > Just tested on latest web2py from trunk and Pythzon 2.7.3 on Win7. >> Everything seems to working as expected. > > > One question: is

[web2py] Re: Scheduler: help us test it while learning

2012-07-13 Thread David Marko
> > Just tested on latest web2py from trunk and Pythzon 2.7.3 on Win7. > Everything seems to working as expected. One question: is there a way how to define function that is run when task failes? I mean situation I would like to add some mail notification on fail or something? e.g. onFailure