Yes, I read it.
Anyway, thank you Massimo for keeping python web development out of
the wannabe-java & everything-should-be-made-standard syndroms.
And the statement about web2py being harmful to the python community
is just shit. Web2py was the one framework that got me interested in
python web
On 1 fév, 21:16, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:
> In web2py you cannot store instances of objects into session. While
> Armin makes it tool like this is a web2py problem this is more complex
> and general than that. In Python if you pickle and object that is
> instance of a class defined in /path1/mymo
hey ! How about that ? http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2011/2/1/exec-in-python/
Is there any real threat for web2py or is it just expert whining ?
I don't really care about theory and things being pythonic or not, as
long as it's efficient. So, any situation where this can really be a
problem ?
See you.
ternal functions in namespaces are slower, because PHP
> first looks for such function in the current namespace.
> * Calls to static methods are slower, because PHP first tries to look
> for corresponding function in namespace.
>
> On Jan 26, 4:57 pm, pistacchio wrote:
>
> > you a
; first looks for such function in the current namespace.
> * Calls to static methods are slower, because PHP first tries to look
> for corresponding function in namespace.
>
> On Jan 26, 4:57 pm, pistacchio wrote:
>
> > you are right, desfrenes, it has namespace (indeed, it has
this works like a charm: http://docs.jquery.com/Plugins/Autocomplete
On 27 jan, 08:24, Jason Brower wrote:
> I have a database with 16k entries in it...
> I have a one to many relation with them.
> When I create a form with the requiers=IS_ID_DB() feature I notice a
> huge lag in page load time.
You're right, Python is (much more) elegant. But you're wrong, PHP has
namespaces.
On 25 jan, 18:27, pistacchio wrote:
> python is a very elegant and mature language. php has gained a huge
> popularity more for the moment when it came out that for the goodness
> of the language itself. it has a
Storing images in db is a bad idea imo. You should probably only store
url/path in db and serve images from a static web server.
On 17 nov, 10:49, David wrote:
> I used the GAE example in the book to create a thumbnail image that is
> stored in the database for my model. The image displays fin
o
>
> On Nov 10, 9:14 am, desfrenes wrote:
>
> > Hello !
>
> > Creating a table and then adding a new Field, here's what I get:
>
> > timestamp: 2009-11-10T15:44:02.086000
> > CREATE TABLE product(
> > id INTEGER PRIMARY KEY AUTOINCREMENT,
> >
No problem :-)
On 10 nov, 16:20, mdipierro wrote:
> It seems I took a patch that was not tested enough (my mad only, I
> should have) and it is creating lots of problems.
>
> I am about to post 1.72.3.
>
> I apologize to everybody.
>
> Massimo
>
> On Nov
Oh, that was using the svn trunk.
On 10 nov, 16:14, desfrenes wrote:
> Hello !
>
> Creating a table and then adding a new Field, here's what I get:
>
> timestamp: 2009-11-10T15:44:02.086000
> CREATE TABLE product(
> id INTEGER PRIMARY KEY AUTOINCREMENT,
>
Hello !
Creating a table and then adding a new Field, here's what I get:
timestamp: 2009-11-10T15:44:02.086000
CREATE TABLE product(
id INTEGER PRIMARY KEY AUTOINCREMENT,
title CHAR(64)
);
success!
timestamp: 2009-11-10T15:54:01.273000
ALTER TABLE product ADD subtitle CHAR(64);
faked!
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.ideas/6282
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Also Tips on using the DAL with a domain model would be nice...
On 10 sep, 08:17, Richard wrote:
> I would also be interested in understanding more about the DAL,
> particularly the new one in development.
>
> On Sep 10, 2:02 am, "mr.freeze" wrote:
>
> > I would like to see a 'deep dive' into t
I don't like. Idea is good, realisation is bad.
On 2 sep, 13:46, weheh wrote:
> Ahhh ... the mythic board presentation to the hard-nosed businessmen.
> No women in the board, of course. And everyone has ophidiophobia,
> too.
>
> Well, think about cute animals in logos. Think about Twitter's logo
There have been countless flamewars on this subject... we need another
one here ;-)
As you guess, I think 3) is the way to go (although it doesn't have to
be limited to crud operations). I tend to trust Thomas Erl here
(http://www.soaprinciples.com/service_statelessness.asp).
Me and my team use js
>2) should we provide a cookie aware xmlrpc cllient with web2py?
>
>3) should we allow other mechanisms to id sessions? For example a uuid
>in the URL?
These are very application-specific. Other services may require a
token in the method's parameters, other may require http auth, some
may need co
Still young but quiet impressive, surely filed with tons of magic,
check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fFWGT_5yi8
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Just an attempt to revive this question ;-)
Here is a link to a patch: http://pastebin.com/m417aa1f5
Any chance to see this merged in trunk ?
Bye.
On 26 mai, 23:54, desfrenes wrote:
> cool :-)
>
> On 26 mai, 23:47, mdipierro wrote:
>
> > interesting. Let me give
That's another way and quite possibly the most standard one, but still
this seams to be a problem in some cases. afaik, actionscript 3 has
native no support for cookies, that mean flex appmications won't use
them, although AIR applications will (yes, this is crazy).
Anyway this is a general web s
On Jun 6, 12:09 pm, Alexei Vinidiktov
wrote:
> I wish server-side token generation and handling would be implemented
> in web2py proper.
I'm not sure there can be a generic response to this since the nature
of both the token and the token store can be different from one
project to another. The
"""
return 'hello ' + name
# your service end point
def call(): return service()
Another way is to use http basic auth, but it was not my choice.
You'll find tons of articles about it.
On Jun 6, 10:20 am, Alexei Vinidiktov
wrote:
> Thanks for your re
I use a token auth handle at the service level. It has disadvantages
(need to check auth on each method, but should be easy with python
decoratorsà but at least I can use the same services with no
modification, whatever the message format (soap, json, xml,
anything...) or the transport layer.
On
This so-called troll issue is irrelevant. Reddit thread is asking
"which framework?". web2py users answered, end of the story. No need
to know the reasons why users answered, if they did because of your
post then fine, what's wrong with that ?
> I really really prefer to spend my time coding than
I don't see the point in paying attention to those comments. All this
reddit/twiter thing is mostly noise (and now even insults !). Why
should you care about whinners ?
On Jun 3, 8:42 pm, Wes James wrote:
> seems odd that there are down votes on this subject already. Must be some
> "other" fram
and slide#24: ruotes_out/routes_out
On 2 juin, 06:01, mdipierro wrote:
> I really appreciate them! Thank you John.
>
> Massimo
>
> On Jun 1, 10:32 pm, JohnMc wrote:
>
> > Massimo,
>
> > Please take these corrections as I want you to look good, not
> > criticism:
>
> > Slide 11: 'Editing an...'
ahaha...
"We are the Borg. Lower your shields, and surrender your ship. We will
add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your
culture will adapt to service ours. Resistance is futile."
On 2 juin, 01:02, mdipierro wrote:
> LOL
>
> once again they are implying you are me.
java and simple... that would be jython, right ? ;-)
On 28 mai, 22:09, mdipierro wrote:
> good although I have a problem with the words "java" and "simple"
> cohexisting.
> anyway, good luck to him.
>
> On May 28, 3:00 pm, desfrenes wrote:
>
> &g
read this: http://twitter.com/hofmanndavid/statuses/1930919022
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cool :-)
On 26 mai, 23:47, mdipierro wrote:
> interesting. Let me give this some thought. something like this could
> go in trunk.
>
> Massimo
>
> On May 26, 4:24 pm, desfrenes wrote:
>
> > not pretty I guess, but it does what I want. is there any chance to a
>
not pretty I guess, but it does what I want. is there any chance to a
similar/better solution in a next version of web2py ?
On 26 mai, 23:23, desfrenes wrote:
> okay, so here it is.
>
> in routes.py:
> use_error_controller = True
>
> in
web2py_error='invalid application')
and then in error/default/index I can query the database for content
where url=request.path_info
On 26 mai, 22:45, desfrenes wrote:
> In other words, the question would be "how do I intercept 400+ errors
> before the reponse is s
ternals but I'll try to
implement this and send a patch.
-
On 26 mai, 21:57, mdipierro wrote:
> Not sure I completely understand the issue but as long as it is ok
> with you fine.
>
> On May 26, 2:32 pm, desfrenes wrote:
>
> > Thanks.
>
> > I first played wit
:
> There may be an easier to implement Djangoflatpagesin web2py but if
> you need to trap error codes, look into
>
> web2py/routes.examples.py
>
> Massimo
>
> On May 26, 12:51 am, desfrenes wrote:
>
> > Hello,
>
> > I'm trying to build something simi
Hello,
I'm trying to build something similar to the flatpage application in
django, that is an app that maps a simple content to an arbitrary url.
To do so I have to trap 400 and 404 errors and then see if a content
is attached to this url. If so, display it, if not, raise the error
again.
How c
this plugin works but uses image schack to host the pictures.
On May 23, 1:57 pm, JohnMc wrote:
> Horst,
>
> The NicEdit site references a image upload
> plug-in:http://www.nicedit.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=471.
>
> On May 23, 1:50 am, Horst Herb
> wrote:
>
> > I need *urgently* either a
Slightly off-topic, but fckeditor does just what you want out of the
box, with many connectors in different languages, including python
(but not web2py specific). See also the django fck connector project
(http://code.google.com/p/django-fckconnector/) that should be easy to
port to web2py.
On 23
I don't think there is an alter ego page for .net, but apart from the
technical stuff, your client should be convinced by the cost.
On May 21, 8:06 pm, weheh wrote:
> I'm trying to convince a client to go with web2py vs. with asp/.net.
> I'm wondering if anyone could offer some comparisons of th
>
> I can forward a link to Stew's paper if anyone's interested.
I am !
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Both Django and Web2Py are in a niche, I mean if your main concern was
really long-term support and diffusion you would probably use one of
the main php frameworks anyway.
As for the choice between Django and Web2py, like others I first tried
Django but I found that it's main killer-feature (the
"Pyjamas provides a python-to-javascript Compiler"
well... I tend to stay away from anything that looks like a javascript
helper. I you're gonna do some serious web development, you'll have to
learn a bit of javascript anyway, or at least one of the major
javascript frameworks like jquery. It's n
I sure do:
http://www.desfrenes.com/blog/post/python-web2py-et-services-en-json-rpc
On May 7, 10:03 pm, mdipierro wrote:
> tell everybody. ;-)
>
> On May 7, 2:50 pm, desfrenes wrote:
>
> > ah! I should have read the docs better...
>
> > Thank you, it works like a
request
> message generated by the client.
>
> Massimo
>
> On May 7, 10:03 am, desfrenes wrote:
>
> > Thank you.
>
> > callinghttp://127.0.0.1:8000/app/default/call/xml/rpctestdoes
> > display an xml response (I added both @service.xml and @service.json),
&g
ay 7, 3:23 pm, mdipierro wrote:
> Yes
>
> http://www.web2py.com/examples/default/tools#services
>
> Massimo
>
> On May 7, 2:43 am, desfrenes wrote:
>
> > Hello,
>
> > I saw the xml-rpc support for web2py via response.xmlrpc() but is
> > there any json-rpc
Hello,
I saw the xml-rpc support for web2py via response.xmlrpc() but is
there any json-rpc 1.0 support (response.jsonrpc())?
I already made a client module, and use it successfully with web
services (see here: http://www.desfrenes.com/python-json-rpc), what
would it take to add json-rpc 1.0 sup
60 fields ! I can't even remember a web app with only half of this.
Sure the data is normalized enough ? Maybe you can think of a multiple
page form.
On 5 mai, 19:02, JohnMc wrote:
> Working on another application. One table in the DAL will have about
> 60 Fields in it. Using one long form would
sort of a form elements decorator... this has already been discussed
here, I'm sure Massimo wouldn't mind to include a nice solution to
this issue if someone has it. I too think there should be a way to
customize form markup. It has already been suggested that form can be
used for validation and i
Using this alternative works:
response.flash = str(T('Song uploaded: %s - %s [%s]')) % (str(audio
["artist"][0]),str(audio["title"][0]),str(audio["album"][0]))
but T([...], dict([...])) doesn't.
On Apr 28, 5:28 pm, desfrenes wrote:
> Googl
pr 28, 5:02 pm, mdipierro wrote:
> How are you editing the translation strings? Ra eyou doing it via the
> interface? If not mind that translations must be UTF8.
>
> On Apr 28, 9:32 am, desfrenes wrote:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I'm running trunk version and I get this tr
if needed, complete fr-fr.py for the app: http://pastebin.com/m49204761
On Apr 28, 5:02 pm, mdipierro wrote:
> How are you editing the translation strings? Ra eyou doing it via the
> interface? If not mind that translations must be UTF8.
>
> On Apr 28, 9:32 am, desfrenes wro
> interface? If not mind that translations must be UTF8.
>
> On Apr 28, 9:32 am, desfrenes wrote:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I'm running trunk version and I get this trace when adding accentued
> > (é) caracters in a translation string:
>
> > Traceback (most
Hi,
I'm running trunk version and I get this trace when adding accentued
(é) caracters in a translation string:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\Documents and Settings\m_desfresnes\Mes documents\web2py-svn
\gluon\restricted.py", line 102, in restricted
exec ccode in environment
So far I'm using blueprint for my layouts. It's as easy as dropping
blueprint files in application/static and then call the css:
On Apr 28, 4:17 pm, Angelo Compagnucci
wrote:
> Hi Massimo and Hi list,
> I've a question about css frameworks. Is there planned support for framework
> like YAML or
unset" the sys.path after an app request had been served, therefore
> no pollution. But I gave up eventually because I thought that could
> not be multi thread safe.
>
> Take your own risk.
>
> On Apr28, 7:10pm, desfrenes wrote:
>
> > I see... but I don't think t
opic
> like this. Don't know whether that helper is finally accepted. Massimo
> might have something to
> say.http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/browse_frm/thread/f9e117f081cfa...
>
> On Apr28, 4:09pm, desfrenes wrote:
>
> > Hello !
>
> > Because I needed m
Hello !
Because I needed mutagen in a project, I added this to the __init__.py
of my application:
import sys, os
# add modules dir to sys.path
sys.path.append( os.path.abspath(request.folder + 'modules/'))
It works like a charm but why isn't "modules" already in sys.path
since its purpose is to
that said, I wouldn't like to work with a template engine like TG's
kid. Yet another template syntax to learn and ... no, thanks. To me,
one of web2py's strenght that was not obvious before I try it is the
fact that it uses Python for templates: easy and powerful.
On Apr 24, 1:3
lol... there's potential for a list-to-list flame war.
On Apr 23, 9:13 pm, Tim Michelsen wrote:
> Please see here:
>
> TG/web2py comparison
> -http://groups.google.com/group/turbogears/t/f3d6f7bc11cd3ae8
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Because web2py templates can be used for any text format, they
probably shouldn't have .html extension, but it allows to edit
templates in any regular html wysiwyg editors.
On 23 avr, 15:34, Timmie wrote:
> > You probably should not change the file extension, changing the
> > headers is suffici
You probably should not change the file extension, changing the
headers is sufficient to have your file served as xml
On Apr 23, 10:28 am, Timmie wrote:
> > applications/yourapp/controllers/default.py
>
> > and add an action
>
> > def kml():
> > placemarks=db(...).select() ## fill the .
x27;)
>
> or, which I like better
>
> myvalue=request.vars.offset or 'somedefaultvalue'
>
> On 22 Apr, 02:32, desfrenes wrote:
>
> > ok! Being influenced by other frameworks I was expecting something
> > like this:
>
> > myvalue = request.vars.off
7;, 'some
default value');).
But I understand the gain is not worth the pain since the python "if"
statement is explicit and already pretty short.
On Apr 21, 10:58 pm, mdipierro wrote:
> This is elegant.
>
> On 21 Apr, 14:57, desfrenes wrote:
>
> > Hi !
>
>
Hi !
I was looking for a way to set default values to request.vars. I use
this:
if request.vars.offset == None: request.vars.offset = 0
But maybe there is a more elegant solution ?
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should be easy to achieve client-side with this:
http://phiras.wordpress.com/2007/04/08/password-strength-meter-a-jquery-plugin/
On 18 avr, 17:49, Jason Brower wrote:
> it would be nice to have the password weakness meter or something like
> that that. For example something that adds a class or
awesome !
On 18 avr, 09:20, Speedbird wrote:
> Ok folks, here it goes:
>
> pyForum RC1 is out, pyForum is a web2py, 100% python-based message
> board system released under the Open Source license, the code is
> basically ready for "heavy" usage.
>
> The "official" release:http://www.pyforum.org/
Makes me think this community may soon need a "web2py people" site,
like http://djangopeople.net/ :-)
On Apr 17, 3:10 am, morningovermidnight
wrote:
> I've been using web2py for some time now and it is an amazing web
> platform. I have more customers that want websites from me than I am
> able t
2py/browse_thread/thread/d09a74...
>
> Massimo
>
> On Apr 16, 7:03 am, desfrenes wrote:
>
> > AFAIK, SQLForm is tied to a given markup since the form generation
> > involves html helpers (TR(), LABEL(), INPUT(), etc), as seen in gluon/
> > sqlhtml.py, line 412
ys refer to the correct one and avoids the ambiguity.
>
> I would suggest always using db.Field but this is not a big deal.
>
> Massimo
>
> On Apr 16, 5:12 am, desfrenes wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure to understand what that means... you mean SQLField should
>
AFAIK, SQLForm is tied to a given markup since the form generation
involves html helpers (TR(), LABEL(), INPUT(), etc), as seen in gluon/
sqlhtml.py, line 412, and you cannot change it unless you fork SQLFORM
() (or FORM() ? ).
Other forms libraries in other frameworks and languages (see
Zend_For
I'm not sure to understand what that means... you mean SQLField should
be used in relational databases and Field in non-relational
databases ?
On Apr 16, 6:54 am, mdipierro wrote:
> db.Field() because it avoid conflicts when running on Google App
> Engine.
>
> On Apr 15, 10:37 pm, Italo Maia wr
Thank you !
On Apr 13, 6:30 am, mdipierro wrote:
> fixed in trunk
>
> On Apr 12, 4:00 pm, desfrenes wrote:
>
> > Hi!
>
> > The translation string used in fr-fr for the datetime (%d-%m-%Y- %H:%M:
> > %S) breaks the compatibility with the calendar widget (becau
Hi!
The translation string used in fr-fr for the datetime (%d-%m-%Y- %H:%M:
%S) breaks the compatibility with the calendar widget (because db
wants %Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S).
The translated string should probably not be used with SQLForm. Of
course it's trivial to change in the admin but since it's the
anythong to do with the markup issue ?
On 9 avr, 16:53, mdipierro wrote:
> One of the recent patches broke SQLFORM in update mode. am not at
> home so I reverted back to 1.59. Tonight I will get this fixed. Do not
> user 1.60 or 1.60.1
>
> I apologize.
>
> Massimo
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On Apr 8, 10:21 am, Timmie wrote:
> Hello,
> I need some advice on using the development version that I checked out
> from Launchpad.
>
> My own applications would be developed in a subdirectory web2py/
> applications.
> Off cource, I d
and another one:
http://www.jjude.com/2009/04/07/why-i-chose-web2py-for-developing-yatsy/
On 6 avr, 22:16, desfrenes wrote:
> On 6 avr, 22:01, g-man wrote:
>
> > Where are all the web2py blogs and articles, people?
>
> here's
> one:http://www.desfrenes.com/blog/post
yes, it's fine now :-)
On 6 avr, 22:49, mdipierro wrote:
> I just posted this in trunk. Please check. Thanks!
>
> Massimo
>
> On Apr 6, 3:28 pm, desfrenes wrote:
>
> > Massimo, this one works best (in html.py):
>
> > def hidden_fields(se
anslate.google.com/translate?prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3...
>
> Comment:http://www.fortunecity.com/lavendar/sidjames/210/xcllnt.wav
>
> Massimo
>
> On Apr 6, 3:16 pm, desfrenes wrote:
>
> > On 6 avr, 22:01, g-man wrote:
>
> > > Where are
pycon effect ! :-)
On 6 avr, 22:42, mdipierro wrote:
> web2py.com distinct visitors per day (tracked by IP).
>
> 30/Mar/2009 803 Mon
> 31/Mar/2009 929 Tue
> 01/Apr/2009 949 Wed
> 02/Apr/2009 813 Thu
> 03/Apr/2009 701 Fri
> 04/Apr/2009 585 Sat
> 05/Apr/2009 605 Sun
> 06/Apr/2009 1265 Today...at 3
.formname:
c.append(INPUT(_type='hidden', _name='_formname',
_value=self.formname))
return TAG.div(c) ### <- just a div :-)
On 6 avr, 20:38, desfrenes wrote:
> Yes Massimo, that fixes the markup but also introduces borders in
> forms which is proba
On 6 avr, 22:01, g-man wrote:
> Where are all the web2py blogs and articles, people?
here's one: http://www.desfrenes.com/blog/post/quel-framework-web-python-choisir
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to specify what div the
> > response is loaded in and also the option to load different parts of
> > the response in different divs.
>
> > On Apr 6, 1:42 pm, desfrenes wrote:
>
> > > ok, I understand.
>
> > > On 6 avr, 18:17, mdipierro wrote:
>
> > >
nt
> triggering an aciton in a different component (like "load" or "flash"
> or "slideToggle") but I am not ok with a component editing the content
> of another component (something that taconite is for). I believe the
> latter approach become un-manageble
t I did not try to
> revalidate.
>
> Massimo
>
> On Apr 6, 9:34 am, DenesL wrote:
>
> > On Apr 5, 9:09 pm, desfrenes wrote:>Hi,
>
> > First of all, good catches!.> Is it possible to make the default markup for
> > SQLFORMs w3c valid ?
> > +1
>
This particular page will give a detailed explanation of the problems:
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.desfrenes.com%2Fbadweb2pymarkup
On Apr 6, 10:23 am, desfrenes wrote:
> See down this page for a valid markup form
> example:http://www.desfrenes.com
Hi,
It's nice but how about using existing plugins for the ajax stuff ?
jquery.taconite.js and jquery.form.js are great (see page test here:
http://www.desfrenes.com/playground/carnet_adresse/ )
Taconite plugin: http://malsup.com/jquery/taconite/
Regards,
Mickaël.
On Apr 6, 8:09 am, mdipierro
to hand-writing forms in the view.
Regards,
Mickaël.
ps: this firefox extension is a must: http://users.skynet.be/mgueury/mozilla/
. It allows for easy markup validation.
On Apr 6, 6:53 am, mdipierro wrote:
> This may break backward compatibility. Anyway, send me an example of
> how you t
Hi,
Is it possible to make the default markup for SQLFORMs w3c valid ?
Right now there are hidden inputs (I suppose they're here for anti-
CSRF) which are not in block elements. This problem can be addressed
easily by using a fieldset.
And also textareas have a "type" attribute which is not val
hi web2py people,
I'm still balancing between Django and Web2py, althought I think I
start to like web2py more and more because it really eases the process
of writing an app.
I tried to expose my views in my blog, if any french-spoken is
interested: http://www.desfrenes.com/blog/post/quel-framew
ok... so basically I can create classes that will use the DAL
instead ?
Can I still define these classes in db.py ?
On 19 mar, 07:36, mdipierro wrote:
> You cannot because web2py has DAL not an ORM. This means records are
> not objects, they are dictionaries.
>
> You can define functions
>
> def
Hello,
I'm interested in web2py because it blends many interesting features,
especially the automatic migration. How does it handle those
migrations with sqlite since sqlite has limited alter table support ?
see you.
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