[web2py:18774] Re: pycon 2009

2009-03-30 Thread Jonathan B
On Mar 30, 8:39 am, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: > I personally want to thank Massimo for preparing the slides, and > Wingware.com for providing a 3-O/S WingIDE-Pro liscense (Jon B. was the > winner). Woah, I suppose that's a different Jon B., otherwise I'd probably know about this already! ;) --

[web2py:18573] Re: Change Control Process for web2py

2009-03-25 Thread Jonathan B
Adding web2py to Freshmeat was a great initiative, Anand! Kutos! :-) --Jonathan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To post to this group, send email to web2py@googlegroups

[web2py:18572] Re: Qusestion about the book?

2009-03-25 Thread Jonathan B
Hi Massimo, On Mar 24, 5:03 pm, mdipierro wrote: > I have the copyright on the book but I also have an understanding that > I would not give it away for free or it will go out of print. Creators > of other framework make their living by consulting. I make my living > in the academic. A publishe

[web2py:18571] Re: Why aren't we under our own domain yet?

2009-03-25 Thread Jonathan B
Hi Anand, On Mar 25, 6:37 am, Anand Vaidya wrote: > Also, the SSL cert problem does not look good. > I saw godaddy is offering a 3-year 256-bit strength SSL Cert for > I am willing to pay for it if the project would agree to use it. As far as I know, Massimo is underway with buying a new SSL

[web2py:18518] Re: Full documentation

2009-03-24 Thread Jonathan B
Dear Debebe, On Mar 23, 8:42 pm, dbb wrote: > That is why like all  other new applications ( framework)let us pay > membership fee for web2py to grow and be a household name. Are you suggesting that there should be an annual fee for being part of a new web2py club? What would be the benefits

[web2py:18345] Re: Qusestion about the book?

2009-03-19 Thread Jonathan B
Hi Yarko, On Mar 18, 6:53 pm, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: > Please be aware you are engaging in conjecture here... and it is not > accurate. Even though I was trying to be helpful, you are right that it was rude of me to conjecture on the nature of someone else's business dealings. I apologize.

[web2py:18280] Re: The web2py wiki is now ready for your input!

2009-03-18 Thread Jonathan B
Thanks everyone for the very productive conversation thread! I've added bugs to the bug tracker (https://bugs.launchpad.net/web2py-wiki) and updated the Wiki so that we don't lose track of the issues that have been brought up. --Jonathan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You

[web2py:18279] Re: The web2py wiki is now ready for your input!

2009-03-18 Thread Jonathan B
Hi Yarko, On Mar 17, 7:57 pm, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: > P.s. -  Speaking for experience from web2conf, we found bugtracking useful > for deferred, longer term issues.  I would not recommend just using it for > everything that will / can be fixed "immediately".   We did that for a while > for th

[web2py:18275] Re: Qusestion about the book?

2009-03-18 Thread Jonathan B
On Mar 17, 3:17 pm, Baron wrote: > that is very unfortunate. > The Django project is able to sell their book and put it online so why > can't web2py? I'm not familiar with the details of Django's project, but most likely their publisher allowed them to keep their own copyright, so that they co

[web2py:18274] Re: Qusestion about the book?

2009-03-18 Thread Jonathan B
On Mar 18, 2:28 pm, Baron wrote: > If Massimo needs to publish because of academia then fair enough, but > that doesn't prevent also making it available online. Most likely Massimo had to sell his copyright to the publisher, so now it's likely that Massimo *cannot* legally give away the book fo

[web2py:18273] Re: 20:09: New peak in #web...@freenode : 13 web2py

2009-03-18 Thread Jonathan B
On Mar 18, 9:25 am, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: > and #web2py for the channel I'd like to take part in the meetings too if possible. What's the meeting schedule? Thanks, --Jonathan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[web2py:18272] Re: 20:09: New peak in #web...@freenode : 13 web2py

2009-03-18 Thread Jonathan B
On Mar 18, 11:26 am, Markus Gritsch wrote: > Fine.  One thing:www.web2py.comshould also work, but currently does not. Depending on where you are in the world, it can take up to 72 hours or so for DNS changes to propagate. http://www.web2py.com is working fine now for me here in Qatar. --Jona

[web2py:18271] Re: web2py-wiki bug's (the locally installed version)

2009-03-18 Thread Jonathan B
On Mar 18, 9:02 am, Jeffield wrote: > bug # 1 reported with launchpad. > I will submit a patch if I figure it out. Thanks for your help, Jeff. We need Wiki developers, so your aid is greatly appreciated!! :) --Jonathan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this me

[web2py:18200] Re: The web2py wiki is now ready for your input!

2009-03-17 Thread Jonathan B
Hi, On Mar 16, 7:14 pm, Kuba Kucharski wrote: > There is a problem with pages/faq, internal > errorhttps://mdp.cti.depaul.edu/admin/default/ticket/wiki/83.20.71.158.200... Thanks, you are right. The following URL gives an error: https://mdp.cti.depaul.edu/wiki/default/page/06f7a28e-3532-4c58

[web2py:18126] Re: Qusestion about the book?

2009-03-16 Thread Jonathan B
Hi Marco, On Mar 16, 12:58 am, "ma...@rockiger.com" wrote: > Is there any plan to make open book, like the djagobook? > It is not because I am stingy, but because web2py is moving so fast. Yes, it's in the works right now. We're developing an up-to-date wiki here: https://mdp.cti.depaul.edu/w

[web2py:18058] Re: The web2py wiki is now ready for your input!

2009-03-14 Thread Jonathan B
Hi maplye, On Mar 13, 10:44 am, maplye wrote: > > By that I mean I can see the index with the [+]s but the links are a > > bunch of numbers, letters and dashes. > > So which one is '/docs/examples' or '/docs/howto' ? Can you please be more specific? What kind of error do you get? --Jonathan

[web2py:18057] Re: The web2py wiki is now ready for your input!

2009-03-14 Thread Jonathan B
Hi DenesL, On Mar 13, 6:20 am, DenesL wrote: > I see there is a "Web2py Documentation" page that could serve as the > backbone but it is getting kinda lost in the page list, is there a way > to visualize the hierarchy?. > The instructions for creating pages recommend using the menu field to > e

[web2py:18056] Re: The web2py wiki is now ready for your input!

2009-03-14 Thread Jonathan B
On Mar 12, 9:00 pm, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Michael Wales wrote: > > > Certificate is invalid - can eventually get to the site, but requires > > some manual labor in Firefox. > > this is because DePaul has certificate for top level site;  I do not think > this

[web2py:18055] Re: The web2py wiki is now ready for your input!

2009-03-14 Thread Jonathan B
On Mar 12, 4:56 pm, "mr.freeze" wrote: > Looks good.  Will any of the content from > herehttps://mdp.cti.depaul.edu/web2py_wiki/default/wiki/mainbe moved over > or does it need to be recreated manually? Thanks for mentioning this link, since I wasn't even aware of it! :-) There doesn't seem t

[web2py:18054] Re: The web2py wiki is now ready for your input!

2009-03-14 Thread Jonathan B
On Mar 12, 4:34 pm, DenesL wrote: > IMHO we should create a basic structure, probably following the > current manual, so this does not turn into a collection of notes. Please feel free to add more structure if you like. --Jonathan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You rec

[web2py:17922] Re: web2py -wiki

2009-03-12 Thread Jonathan B
On Mar 11, 11:22 pm, mdipierro wrote: > https://launchpad.net/web2py-wiki > > feel free to help improve it Excellent! :) --Jonathan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To p

[web2py:17789] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-03-10 Thread Jonathan B
Hi Paul, On Mar 10, 6:14 am, Paul Eden wrote: > So, what's the game plan for documentation? > I want to start workin'! :-) I think that for the short term the Wiki can point out all of the different locations where information can be found (as you've listed in one of your recent emails). Als

[web2py:17788] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-03-10 Thread Jonathan B
Hi Yarko, I think I'm most interested in looking at web2py features and doing a nice job of documenting them. The actual creation of the Sphinx source repository is less interesting to me. Since you say that you want to do that, I'm perfectly happy to defer to you in that area. Please let me kn

[web2py:17728] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-03-09 Thread Jonathan B
Hi, On Mar 9, 3:07 am, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: > RE:  Sphinx: > Not much to read up on (unless you have free time ;-). > > Get the latest snapshot... Ok, thanks for the references. I'll start looking into this. My goal here would be to set up a new code repository for the eventual web2py commu

[web2py:17727] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-03-09 Thread Jonathan B
Hi, On Mar 9, 6:13 am, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: > I think maybe GAE would not be able to handle / host a documentation wiki > for us (from what I've heard about data limits on the free accounts). According to the official quotas (http://code.google.com/appengine/ docs/quotas.html), we'd be limi

[web2py:17726] Re: Cache feature ... newbie question

2009-03-09 Thread Jonathan B
On Mar 9, 7:56 am, weheh wrote: > Simple question -- when do you use the cache feature and what benefit > does it provide? "In computer science, a cache (pronounced /kæʃ/) is a collection of data duplicating original values stored elsewhere or computed earlier, where the original data is expens

[web2py:17725] Re: small spelling error

2009-03-09 Thread Jonathan B
On Mar 8, 8:49 pm, Jason Brower wrote: > "to previour version." should be "to previous version." > It's at the bottom when your editing a text file. I fixed that typo in my recent patch to EditArea, so the fix should be in the next version... --Jonathan --~--~-~--~~~---

[web2py:17648] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-03-08 Thread Jonathan B
Hi Yarko and all, Thanks for the feedback. If you agree, I think that we can get started now. The wiki located at https://mdp.cti.depaul.edu/wiki is good enough as a starting point for documenting web2py. We can get going on creating and publishing a source code repository for the community ma

[web2py:17645] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-03-07 Thread Jonathan B
Hi all, On Mar 5, 7:23 pm, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: > one advantage to a web2py wiki: we can dump (csv) contents in prep for > sphinx integration / work. Yes, that is an advantage, although I'm sure we could implement this feature for any open source Wiki software without too much trouble. I t

[web2py:17643] Re: Distribution with PIL

2009-03-07 Thread Jonathan B
On Mar 6, 9:45 pm, AchipA wrote: > Another issue, somewhat linked to this is the version of web2py > itself. Is there a way for the app to detect that the web2py version > it is run on is older than it requires ? >From checking the Admin application code (web2py\web2py\applications \admin\cont

[web2py:17528] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-03-05 Thread Jonathan B
Hi Massimo and all, I'd like to lend a hand with the documentation project. Based on reading all of the comments, I'm with Yarko and Paul Eden on the direction we should take. Which is: (1) A reST/Sphinx code repository, under source control, for a community-based manual (2) A wiki for organ

[web2py:17524] Re: Patch complete: adding configurability to EditArea

2009-03-04 Thread Jonathan B
Hi Massimo, On Mar 4, 4:53 pm, mdipierro wrote: > I do not have access. Public access has been granted. The patch (up-to-date to revision 584 of trunk) is available here: http://sites.google.com/a/benn.ca/file-locker/file-cabinet/web2py_EditArea_patch.zip > Instead of the static/...ini file

[web2py:17523] Re: Patch complete: adding configurability to EditArea

2009-03-04 Thread Jonathan B
Hi Massimo, On Mar 4, 4:53 pm, mdipierro wrote: > I do not have access. Oups, sorry. I'll try to figure out what went wrong. If all else fails I'll email you the patch. > Instead of the static/...ini file can you place the configurations in > models/0.py where the other settings are? Ok,

[web2py:17467] Re: Default font size and fullscreen for EditArea in Admin interface

2009-03-04 Thread Jonathan B
Hi Massimo, On Mar 4, 7:52 am, mdipierro wrote: > not true that we do not care. The fact is the long term plan is to > move to the Amy editor, rather than mess up with editarea. If you want > to submit a patch to change this, it will probably be accepted. Ok, I'll try writing a patch. --Jona

[web2py:17451] Re: Default font size and fullscreen for EditArea in Admin interface

2009-03-03 Thread Jonathan B
Hi Kuba, On Mar 3, 5:20 pm, Kuba Kucharski wrote: > i misunderstood you, i thought you want to customize the one in admin so.. > nevermind. my mistake. I'm confused now about whether or not we're talking about the same thing. :) I'm talking about the EditArea in the Admin application. It loo

[web2py:17450] Re: Default font size and fullscreen for EditArea in Admin interface

2009-03-03 Thread Jonathan B
Hi Yarko, On Mar 3, 8:01 pm, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: > I like it this way - I don't care what web2py editors do;  for me it's just > for an occaisional convenience, not main use. Yeah, it's the same for me. I typically use Eclipse (with the Python plugin) or IDLE for web2py coding. But a big p

[web2py:17395] Re: Default font size and fullscreen for EditArea in Admin interface

2009-03-03 Thread Jonathan B
Hi Kuba, Thanks for your feedback. On Mar 3, 4:24 pm, Kuba Kucharski wrote: > - in new web2py(1.57) there is no "reloading page" every time you save. New > editor is awesome! I'm talking about version 1.57. Which new editor are you talking about? The one seen in T3? > why focus on admin-

[web2py:17386] Re: An improved Ticketing system

2009-03-03 Thread Jonathan B
On Mar 2, 8:24 am, mdipierro wrote: > Excellent idea. I can see lot of value in this. > well, all we need is something like this... > > session.connect(request,response,db) > if not session.history: session.history=[request.env] > session.history.append((request.now, request.env.path_info)) > >

[web2py:17385] Re: team development in web2py

2009-03-03 Thread Jonathan B
Hi Alex, On Mar 2, 7:50 pm, Pedro wrote: > Since web2py ships everything in the server including the webserver > and the db you can simply set up a repository (SVN, bazar, whatever > you like) and trow the whole thing in there. Exactly. So every developer can have their own local copy of web2p

[web2py:17376] Re: Distribution with PIL

2009-03-03 Thread Jonathan B
I'm with Massimo and Yarko on this one. A big part of what makes web2py great is the fact that you can just download it and run it, with no dependencies. This was the #1 feature that got me to use web2py. I took a look at Django and saw how much effort it would be to set it up on my home computer

[web2py:17371] Re: Really irritating loss of code

2009-03-02 Thread Jonathan B
Great job everyone! This was a really important feature. I can imagine that if a new user lost an hour of work due to an expired session, he might decide to completely abandon web2py. --Jonathan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subsc

[web2py:17369] Re: Documentation - Scaffold application

2009-03-02 Thread Jonathan B
Hi, On Mar 1, 10:32 am, Alexandre Miguel de Andrade Souza wrote: > While "welcome" is "de facto" scaffold, its lacks some of new tools of > web2py: authenticantion, crud and others. Can this new scaffold application be combined with T3? --Jonathan --~--~-~--~~~---

[web2py:16676] Re: DAL subset supported by GAE

2009-02-21 Thread Jonathan B
Hi Yarko, On Feb 22, 4:44 am, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: > It seems to me "entity group" is a useful concept that should scale accross > to SQL dbs in some way also.  By not abstracting this appropriately, it > seems we are creating (practically looking at this) more limitations than > GAE has in

[web2py:16675] Re: any outstanding issue?

2009-02-21 Thread Jonathan B
Hi Massimo, On Feb 20, 8:56 am, mdipierro wrote: > anything I have forgotten or can we release 1.56.4? Everything looks fine from my perspective. Thanks! --Jonathan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group