Hi Ali,
its ok if you just pass on the link to the vote result. No need to
search for the individual results, its really too much work. though I
appreciate your precision, if you like it like that it's OK. It just
want to save some time :-)
I believe ML update all couple of hours, but I seriously
Ross Gardler was last year on the ASF board and is a well-respected
community member. He knows a lot about driving open source projects,
because knowing that is also his day job. On Apache Con EU he held a
great presentation on open source risks:
http://de.slideshare.net/rgardler/managing-project-
hello folks,
since there are a lot of new people around here, I thought I would share this:
"Life In The Apache Incubator by Jukka Zitting at ApacheCon EU…"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KopPbWS87fw
Its a presentation by Jukka on the Incubator from last year. If you
prefer video, instead of rea
All,
What we would need to do to support integration with Open Office, or any
other app, is abstract our OT Core Engine in two ways. First it would
need to become a stand alone service that other apps could hook in to.
Second we would need to change the operations to be more generic than the
curr
I know I asked this before, but when we are ready, just let me know I
would be happy to post the artifact somewhere typical and update the web
site.
I'll also submit some news items to various web sites.
~Michael
On 6/16/13 8:22 AM, "Christian Grobmeier" wrote:
>Hi Ali,
>
>its ok if you just p
On 16/06/13 09:29, Michael MacFadden wrote:
All,
What we would need to do to support integration with Open Office, or any
other app, is abstract our OT Core Engine in two ways. First it would
need to become a stand alone service that other apps could hook in to.
Second we would need to change t
I took a look at walk around when it was first announced. Admittedly, I
would need to go back and take a look at it again. I do remember it being
more decoupled than was was in WiaB. I don't remember if it was (in my
opinion) sufficiently abstract. I seem to remember there were still
things lik
Michael,
Thank you very much for engaging this topic.
Your observations highlighted some of the key challenges and concerns that
I have factored into the presentation deck that I shared earlier:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1pNsrX26947QH89Ot3k62nlKKSRFLmVgBWxcIEne8VYI/edit?usp=sharing
I'm not subscribed to this list, but Christian Grobmeier pointed me to
John's post about how OT and Wave could be relevant to OpenOffice.
I wanted to mention that the idea is being discussed, but at the
standards level. The default document format for OpenOffice is Open
Document Format (ODF), whi
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 2:25 AM, Dave wrote:
> On 16/06/13 09:29, Michael MacFadden wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> What we would need to do to support integration with Open Office, or any
>> other app, is abstract our OT Core Engine in two ways. First it would
>> need to become a stand alone service tha
I couldn't find an overview of the various bits of the wiab server, and
how they plumb together. So from a couple of hours digging into the
codebase, I knocked up the attached diagram.
I didn't include the Concurrency and Document/Conversation structure, as
I suspect these are better visualise
and now as a link, rather than attachment:
http://i.imgur.com/gv4qMJY.png
On 16/06/13 17:11, Dave wrote:
I couldn't find an overview of the various bits of the wiab server,
and how they plumb together. So from a couple of hours digging into
the codebase, I knocked up the attached diagram.
I
Please note, Rob is PMC member of the Apache OpenOffice project and
knows a lot on the project and how it operates.
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> I'm not subscribed to this list, but Christian Grobmeier pointed me to
> John's post about how OT and Wave could be relevant to O
Rob,
I would be interested in continuing this conversation. I have been working with
the top minds in OT for the past few years. I am excited to hear the OO is
interested in an OT supported mechanism. How far along are you in the process?
~Michael
On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:00 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
Note he's not subscribed - you'll need to cc.
Upayavira
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013, at 07:51 PM, Michael MacFadden wrote:
> Rob,
>
> I would be interested in continuing this conversation. I have been
> working with the top minds in OT for the past few years. I am excited to
> hear the OO is interested
Thanks, Rob, it seems that this opens up interesting doors for
down-the-road variants of OpenOffice based on Wave editing models and data
models. The challenge and the opportunity is that Wave's OT model acts on
the body of a document, so conversations and collaborations can become the
body of a mo
Thanks for Ross' slides, I look forward to reviewing them. J
On Jun 16, 2013 3:30 AM, "Christian Grobmeier" wrote:
> Ross Gardler was last year on the ASF board and is a well-respected
> community member. He knows a lot about driving open source projects,
> because knowing that is also his day jo
I don't know the accuracy of the image, but I vote for its inclusion in the
wiki.
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Dave wrote:
> and now as a link, rather than attachment:
>
> http://i.imgur.com/gv4qMJY.png
>
>
>
> On 16/06/13 17:11, Dave wrote:
>
>> I couldn't find an overview of the various b
+1 to putting on the wiki.
On 16 June 2013 21:07, Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak) wrote:
> I don't know the accuracy of the image, but I vote for its inclusion in the
> wiki.
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Dave wrote:
>
>> and now as a link, rather than attachment:
>>
>> http://i.imgur.com/
It's not totally accurate IMHO. I would prefer some kind of mind map that
can be edited and improved over time.
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Ali Lown wrote:
> +1 to putting on the wiki.
>
> On 16 June 2013 21:07, Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak)
> wrote:
> > I don't know the accuracy of the i
Although I haven't tested it myself, there is a mindmap gadget in Rizzoma
(separate from the mindmap view). If that could be used to build this diagram
then Rizzoma already supports anonymous access of public topics, and can be
embedded in an octane, perhaps in the wiki?
Yuri Z wrote:
>It's n
Adding Svante Schubert to the thread, from the ODF Toolkit project.
He also chairs the subcommittee at OASIS that has been looking at OT
for change tracking in ODF.
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Michael MacFadden
wrote:
>
>
> On 6/16/13 2:51 PM, "Michael MacFadden"
> wrote:
>
>>Rob,
>>
>>I w
Sure - What tool would you suggest Yuri? I just used what was to hand -
OO Draw - but can upload the source somewhere?
For my education, what are the inaccuracies?
Dave
On 16/06/13 22:58, Yuri Z wrote:
It's not totally accurate IMHO. I would prefer some kind of mind map that
can be edited an
After hooking up with Google for wave. I have been the lead architect for an OT
framework much like the real time drive API being built at my company. I am
encouraging my developers to reengage the apache community so we can actively
contribute back. We have also done a in depth literature revie
An example of what I was talking about before:
https://rizzoma.com/topic/4f4d5d1aeb337f9307458e1ec8919881/
This can be embedded using:
https://rizzoma.com/embedded/4f4d5d1aeb337f9307458e1ec8919881/";
frameborder="0" allowfullscreen>
Although the tool is not very advanced, it does allow for easy
c
Thanks for joining the conversation, Rob. I think that one key difference
in Wave - both as it is and as it could be - is that the data model is
based on how ideas and conversations form, not necessarily a final
artifact. It feasible, for example for Wave data structures to encapsulate
chat/convers
As an alternative, do Google Drawings support embedding?
—Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro
On Jun 16, 2013 7:21 PM, "Sam Nelson" wrote:
> An example of what I was talking about before:
> https://rizzoma.com/topic/4f4d5d1aeb337f9307458e1ec8919881/
>
> This can be embedded using:
> src="https://rizzoma.co
Apparently yes:
http://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/14710/is-there-a-way-to-get-an-embed-link-for-a-google-drawing
Rather than hosted externally, I wonder if the source for such
documentation would be better hosted (and owned) by the Apache project
though - maybe alongside the other docs
Sounds interesting. Where is this going to be held? It might be
interesting for a few people on this list, too.
-J
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Michael MacFadden
wrote:
> After hooking up with Google for wave. I have been the lead architect for an
> OT framework much like the real time driv
Joseph, my thought is that we can have a Google+ Hangout and invite
everyone in the Wave community and beyond interested in OT and related
issues. Doesn't have to be perfect, we just need to get the
dialogue.rolling, it seems. We can always have more. Say Weds or Thursday
around 1700 UT+1? Pick a
A google hang out amongst wave developers is a great idea. However this is not
a substitute for presenting and discussing the future of OT with the active
research community.
~Michael
On Jun 16, 2013, at 5:32 PM, John Blossom wrote:
> Joseph, my thought is that we can have a Google+ Hangout a
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