Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-16 Thread Kevin O'Malley
On 7/16/17, Alain Sepeda wrote: > > multiple independent instruments are also more convincing than just two. ***That is why I criticized MFMP's dropping this line of inquiry due to personal circumstances, not due to lack of promise of earlier results. It turns out that Matthieu had all the equi

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-16 Thread Alain Sepeda
more generally correlation of complex signal mean uch more than just signal, one shot corelation, of simple/regular signal corrélation. correlating two ramp, two exponential is nearly meaningless (this is however often published in newspapers - some correlated increase of organic food production a

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-15 Thread Kevin O'Malley
So then a gamma ray detection followed by a replication within 48 hours would be very significant, wouldn't you say? That's why I'm disappointed MFMP didn't pursue this line of inquiry. On 7/15/17, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Kevin O'Malley wrote: > >> > >> There is no known chemical interaction th

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Kevin O'Malley wrote: > > There is no known chemical interaction that leads to > hydrogen/deuterium generating gammas when mixed with nickel/palladium. > Even if there is no excess heat, it MUST be a nuclear phenomena. > People familiar these detectors tell me that a one-off event that does n

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-15 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Biberian's results seem iffy to you, though they came within 48 hours of the gamma ray finding of MFMP. And then MFMP just dropped the inquiry due to some personal constraints rather than the lack of promise in the inquiry. You essentially admit to not clicking on the link due to a typo. MFMP

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Kevin O'Malley wrote: > > What leads you to doubt Hans Biberian's "replication" of finding the > >> gamma rays within 48 hours? > There is no one by the name "Hans Biberian." That's why I did not recall any details. I guess you mean Jean-Paul Biberian. J-P. Biberian's results seem iffy to me.

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-14 Thread Kevin O'Malley
On 7/14/17, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Kevin O'Malley wrote: > > What leads you to doubt Hans Biberian's "replication" of finding the >> gamma rays within 48 hours? >> > > Not familiar with that. ***You didn't even click on the link that we're discussing? http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/de/16-pro

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Kevin O'Malley wrote: What leads you to doubt Hans Biberian's "replication" of finding the > gamma rays within 48 hours? > Not familiar with that. I don't know much about gamma detection but experts tell me that brief, one-off incidents are often instrument glitches. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-14 Thread Kevin O'Malley
What leads you to doubt Hans Biberian's "replication" of finding the gamma rays within 48 hours? On 7/14/17, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Kevin O'Malley wrote: > > Well, are you happy with how they handled this gamma ray thing? They >> just dropped it. > > > I doubt there are any gamma rays, so I wou

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Kevin O'Malley wrote: Well, are you happy with how they handled this gamma ray thing? They > just dropped it. I doubt there are any gamma rays, so I wouldn't fret about this. Anyway, researchers always get to decide what they are going to do. If you aren't interested in what they chose to do,

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-14 Thread Kevin O'Malley
http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/en/home/mfmp-blog/347-gamma On 7/13/17, Kevin O'Malley wrote: > I updated their blog entry for them. > > http://www.quantumheat.org/#comment-8874 >

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-14 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Well, are you happy with how they handled this gamma ray thing? They just dropped it. The closest thing to the holy grail they ever came and just decided they wanted to chase white rabbits instead. On 7/13/17, Esa Ruoho wrote: > If Kevin's so unhappy with what they're doing, how about Kevin yo

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-13 Thread Esa Ruoho
If Kevin's so unhappy with what they're doing, how about Kevin you go and support them some more, okay? Sell that car, re-mortgage that house twice and throw money at them. Otherwise, sell all your belongings and move to live with them and guide (financially and direction-wise) their process so the

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-13 Thread Kevin O'Malley
I updated their blog entry for them. http://www.quantumheat.org/#comment-8874

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-13 Thread Kevin O'Malley
On 7/13/17, Jed Rothwell wrote: > You asked; they answered. What's your problem? ***My problem is that it took them 4 years to do it and they don't address how they prioritize scientific pursuits. It's willy nilly. >> We should see their reasoning for supporting some >> research over other r

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Kevin O'Malley wrote: What do you expect them to do? ***I expect them to inform us on the blog they chose to inform us. > It would have cost them 10 minutes of their time. You asked; they answered. What's your problem? >They have gone > off on 4 or 5 external trips, chasing down c

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-13 Thread Kevin O'Malley
On 7/13/17, Jed Rothwell wrote: What do you expect them to do? ***I expect them to inform us on the blog they chose to inform us. It would have cost them 10 minutes of their time. They have gone off on 4 or 5 external trips, chasing down chimera that had less chance than this. We should

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Kevin O'Malley wrote: Then you have confirmed it: That promising line of inquiry was > dropped. They had to drop it. What do you expect them to do? The guy who was doing it had to get a job and support his family. You have no business complaining about this. Are you going to pay his salary an

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-13 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Then you have confirmed it: That promising line of inquiry was dropped. You should at least post what you just said on the MFMP website and ask for anyone who might be interested in furthering this line of inquiry to get involved. It wasn't dropped due to lack of progress, it was dropped due to

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-13 Thread AlanG
The experiment reported in your link was done by Mathieu Valat in France, with support from Jean-Paul Biberian. Mathieu was unable to continue that work due to the burden of supporting a family. However, he has recently re-commissioned his concentric-tube calorimeter and gamma spectrometer in a

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-12 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Alan: The original gamma finding was never updated in 2013. MFMP simply went silent on it. http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/de/16-progress-blog/347-gamma On 7/12/17, AlanG wrote: > Every experiment we run since 2013 has gamma spectrometry in place as > well as a sensitive Geiger-Muller p

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
AlanG wrote: Every experiment we run since 2013 has gamma spectrometry in place as well > as a sensitive Geiger-Muller pancake detector and several neutron bubble > detectors. > Good! This sounds like a good approach. Using multiple instruments should make a positive result convincing, especiall

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-12 Thread AlanG
Every experiment we run since 2013 has gamma spectrometry in place as well as a sensitive Geiger-Muller pancake detector and several neutron bubble detectors. All the spectral data and G-M counts are published in near real time and made permanently available for open viewing and analysis. Just

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-11 Thread Kevin O'Malley
The issue is:What have you been doing with that gamma ray thing. All the rest fits into what I called "whatever it is". On Tuesday, July 11, 2017, AlanG wrote: > On 7/11/2017 10:24 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: > > The gamma ray finding of MFMP was replicated within 48 hours by Hans > Biberian. A

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-11 Thread AlanG
On 7/11/2017 10:24 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: The gamma ray finding of MFMP was replicated within 48 hours by Hans Biberian. And then they just faded away onto whatever it is they've been doing for 4 years. Kevin, your comment suggests that you haven't been paying attention or even bothering to