Hello Red Herring
Nick Harring writes:
> This whole argument is ridiculous.
Correct. So far I havw seen only one person post a sensible response,
You are NOT that person...
> The correctness of design doesn't really rely on what some random users
> first guess of how it should work would be,
Paul L. Allen wrote:
Erik Bourget writes:
You know, intense as this whole argument is, the fact remains that DWIM
is no substitute for proper documentation.
Let's see, the documentation says vaddaliasdomain original alias.
If you do what the documentation says, it works. If you reverse t
Paul, quit emailing me offlist. I don't give a crap what kind of
drunken binge you are on.
Damm, I'll I did was offer a simple solution to a problem.
Just STFU and let it go.
Erik Bourget writes:
> You know, intense as this whole argument is, the fact remains that DWIM
> is no substitute for proper documentation.
Let's see, the documentation says vaddaliasdomain original alias.
If you do what the documentation says, it works. If you reverse the
arguments, it still w
Erik Bourget wrote:
"Paul L. Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Because vpopmail bridges so many divides, it cannot intuit what you want.
It doesn't know if you're using cdb for everything or using MySQL for
everything or whatever unless you tell it. But, wherever possible, it
should be DWIM.
Hi Anders
Anders Brander writes:
> Hummm Or something like:
> "... the two domains to be aliased ..." - without saying which is which,
> for the user it doesn't matter much.
Oh Anders, I need rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty! It's
because I'm a boring old fart that I desperate
Hi,
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 03:46, Paul L. Allen wrote:
> > I think we should just ignore the "old" way of calling vaddaliasdomain
> > in the usage message, in that way new users will adobt the "new" way of
> > doing things.
> Ummm, that implies that one way is more "correct" than the other. I do
>
X-Istence writes:
>
> This is my patch, it doesnt allow for both types, but does what you want
> :).
It does do what I want, and if that were my only concern I have other
solutions that I could use. I would like both options to be available so
that those who have one preference can get exactl
Hi Anders
Anders Brander writes:
> I think we should just ignore the "old" way of calling vaddaliasdomain
> in the usage message, in that way new users will adobt the "new" way of
> doing things.
Ummm, that implies that one way is more "correct" than the other. I do
not believe that to be the
Hi,
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 03:26, Paul L. Allen wrote:
> > A bit odd to document,
> Damn right. I still haven't figured out a sensible usage message.
I think we should just ignore the "old" way of calling vaddaliasdomain
in the usage message, in that way new users will adobt the "new" way of
doin
Stop bickering please, common.
Difference between the origional and that what i changed around
Breached# diff vaddaliasdomain.c.backup vaddaliasdomain.c
56c56,57
< printf("vaddaliasdomain: usage: [options] alias_domain
real_domain\n");
---
> /* printf("vaddaliasdomain: usage: [options] alia
Anders Brander writes:
> A bit odd to document,
Damn right. I still haven't figured out a sensible usage message.
> but otherwise a fabulous idea.
Bad Anders. Bad, bad, Anders. Letting people do what they find
easiest is BAD. Ask the people who criticised me for suggesting it.
> Pleas
Toasterz Admin writes:
> Paul L. Allen wrote:
>
> >Toasterz Admin writes:
> >Actually, you're wrong.
> >
> how could i be wrong just because you say it's so.
What a wonderfully compelling argument. How could you possibly be
wrong just because I say so? Ummm, wait, you called me wrong
bec
Stop bickering please, common.
Difference between the origional and that what i changed around
Breached# diff vaddaliasdomain.c.backup vaddaliasdomain.c
56c56,57
< printf("vaddaliasdomain: usage: [options] alias_domain
real_domain\n");
---
> /* printf("vaddaliasdomain: usage: [options] alia
Paul L. Allen wrote:
Toasterz Admin writes:
Paul L. Allen wrote:
you are obviously a person who loves to whine and when not whining,
likes to rage. am i correct in this?
Actually, you're wrong.
how could i be wrong just because you say it's so. your posts are
irrefutable... wh
Paul L. Allen wrote:
You don't read so good, do you?
snappy opener, i wonder what prompted this? whiners hate being called
whiners.
you are obviously a person who loves to whine and when not whining,
likes to rage.
am i correct in this? no need to reply, i'm confident in my analysis.
a better on
JB writes:
> A one line bash script, which I provided
Sorrry, I did not see your attachment in any of your posts. Please
repost it so that we all can benefit and the vpopmail maintainers can
distribute your wonderful script (if they think it is a sensible
solution).
> will do the job for Milli
A one line bash script, which I provided will do the job for Millions of
people.
You could have fixed the problem yourself in less then 10 seconds,
instead, you flame me.
You are a fucking twit
Paul L. Allen wrote:
You don't read so good, do you?
JB writes:
Write a shell script that t
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Gotta give this Paul guy a round of applause.
Indeed. I know you meant that ironically, but I understand your
misperceptions.
> I have never seen anyone who uses his sheer incompetency as a brutal
> attack weapon. Have you ?
Many, many times when I have dealt wit
your eyes closed so we
won't feel too imposing.
Thanks in advance for the patch.
Lu
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul L. Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:07 PM
> To: JB
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [vchkpw] Re: Feature re
You don't read so good, do you?
JB writes:
> Write a shell script that takes the arguments in the order you want and
> pass them to vaddaliasdomain in the order expected,
I already explained that while I am more than capable of coming up with
that idea and implementing it all by myself, that s
The worst one of our clients has managed so far is 13, added in dribs and
drabs of two or three at a time. For one it makes no difference. For
hundreds I'd go the perl script reading a text file route. For twos and
threes the current argument order of vaddaliasdomain is annoying.
Write a she
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> If you do this often enough, why not just write a simple little shell
> script to accomplish this:
I'm way ahead of you. It asks for the main domain, the postmaster password
and prompts for alias domains (finishing if nothing is entered for an
alias. Then it sets t
Very nice work Tonino.
I've taken a look at your patch and I like it. Fortunately for me,
last week I moved my last "system users" domain into vpopmail so all my
mail domains are virtual. Having done that, I can actually use your
patch now. I've build it into my Mail Toaster Mega-Patch (ver
Hi Brian,
the versions you see on my website are tailored for vpopmail, so they
handle every kind of user vpopmail handles, valias and .qmail aliases,
ezmlm mailing lists.
It may be easily customized for other handlers. A lot of people asked me,
and they realized the same control out of vpopma
Hi,
Its definitely a qmail patch, not vpopmail. You should contact
the qmail list or homepage to have it listed there instead.
I see from your page that it checks vpopmail users, but what
about regular shell accounts? Also, does it do the .qmail file
processing for normal accounts, maillists,
Hi Eduardo,
my patch basically modifies qmail-smtpd.c code, using vpopmail libraries.
So, it may be seen practically in the category "qmail patch", not "vpopmail
patch".
As any patch, it may not work if someone applied other patches before, so I
don't think it may be right to include it in vpo
Bill Shupp wrote:
>
> on 3/15/01 8:29 PM, Ken Jones at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I wasn't able to reproduce this on my test machine.
> > Hard for me to fix it then.
> > Ken
>
> Ken,
>
> I'm sorry I can't provide a fix myself. I would if I had the C skills. But
> here's a sample of what
on 3/15/01 8:29 PM, Ken Jones at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I wasn't able to reproduce this on my test machine.
> Hard for me to fix it then.
> Ken
Ken,
I'm sorry I can't provide a fix myself. I would if I had the C skills. But
here's a sample of what I'm seeing (with today's 4.9.9 release).
Bill Shupp wrote:
>
> on 3/12/01 3:28 PM, Matt Simerson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I have two issues: The first is a feature request for the vmoduser program.
> > It appears that at present there is no way to disable qmailadmin. This would
> > be a most welcome addition to the vmoduser pr
on 3/12/01 3:28 PM, Matt Simerson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have two issues: The first is a feature request for the vmoduser program.
> It appears that at present there is no way to disable qmailadmin. This would
> be a most welcome addition to the vmoduser program and hopefully more people
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 7:17 PM
> To: Svyatoslav Trukhanov
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Feature request
>
>
> define what you mean pattern - a reg exp - not really possible
define what you mean pattern - a reg exp - not really possible to do in
mysql i believe (though i could be wrong) - just look for a string? -
definatley easy to do then
Eric
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I haven't figured out how to modify the makefiles for that.
the vmkpasswd program is only available for the cdb module.
Edit the Makefile and delete the reference to vmkpasswd
That will allow the make file to finish
Ken
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi Ken,
>
> make[2]: Entering directory `
Hi Ken,
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/vpopmail-4.9.4'
gcc -g -O2 -Wall -o vmkpasswd vmkpasswd.o libvpopmail.a
-L/usr/local/lib -ll
dap -llber -lnsl -lcrypt
vmkpasswd.o: In function `main':
/usr/local/src/vpopmail-4.9.4/vmkpasswd.c:64: undefined reference to
`vmkpasswd'
collect
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
H... From field look strange.
> Of Ken Jones
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 4:39 AM
> To: Svyatoslav Trukhanov
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Feature reque
Svyatoslav Trukhanov wrote:
>
> I have large mail system, use qmail+vpopmail+MySQL
>
> All is Ok, but
> when new mail for user arrived vdelivermail connect to MySQL and get home
> dir
> for this user. I think this is bottleneck on my system. (MySQL located not
> on the same machine, when mailbox
Done
ChangeLog
Sep 6 - vadddomain prints out usage statement if no domain is specified
Bill Shupp wrote:
>
> Also, it would be cool if vadddomain would print usage syntax if no arguments
> are supplied. Currently, it tried to add an unspecified domain.
>
> -Bill Shupp
>
> Quoting Johan Alm
Johan Almqvist wrote:
>
> Hey
>
> All v* programs should print their version number if called with -v
>
> -Johan
> --
> Johan Almqvist
Done:
4.9.2
Sep 6 - add version switch to all v* programs, either with -v option
or in the default usage statement
Also, it would be cool if vadddomain would print usage syntax if no arguments
are supplied. Currently, it tried to add an unspecified domain.
-Bill Shupp
Quoting Johan Almqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hey
>
> All v* programs should print their version number if called with -v
>
> -Johan
> --
ken, he's wanting something where you could still have
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" be two different "unique" login accts
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
so you could have a "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" would be the physical pop
login "pop01"
where [EMAIL PROTECTED] would be the physical pop login
"pop02"
as I suggested
Mark Chesney wrote:
>
> currently, in order to avoid the %domain pop user naming scheme, the only
> choice is ip aliasing, which requires an ip for each and every domain.
> sometimes this is unrealistic or unachievable. why not create a system where
> pop usernames can be unique, but not so clunk
you tell me which is easier on
the
> > > user. not to mention how many email clients would choke on the
previous.
> > why
> > > should i have to tell a client, "well, if you're using netscape
messenger,
> > > use this delimiter, and if your using hotmail use
t; your using outlook express version facafooey, use this delimiter."
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Fankhauser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 9:11 AM
> To: Mark Chesney
> Cc: vpopmail; qmailadmin
> Subject: Re: feature request
>
>
>
Mark Chesney wrote:
> a small service provider with more mail hosts than ip addresses would be
> able to achieve an effect similar to the ip aliasing option. or suppose a
> service provider doesn't want to allocate numerous ip's just for the sake of
> mail. the requirement of a delimiter whether
ny Publiski
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-Original Message-
From: Mark Chesney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 2:09 PM
To: vpopmail; qmailadmin
Subject: RE: feature request
a small service provider with more mail hosts than ip addresses would b
or @, etc creates
too many problems and support issues. so many common mail clients choke on
delimiters, that there must be a better solution.
-Original Message-
From: Ben Beuchler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 9:15 AM
To: vpopmail; qmailadmin
Subject: Re: feature re
the also totalably notable thing is you can use [EMAIL PROTECTED] in
many email clients (eudora just does fucked up shit)
but i belive it works in outlook - anywhere where the input field is
suppose to just be the username
Eric
On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Emiliano wrote:
> Mark Chesney wrote:
>
> >
Mark Chesney wrote:
> i just think the administrator should have more control over pop usernames.
> if your email address was [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the current naming
> convention, your pop username would be brad%theinternet.com. but if you had
> control over the naming system you could shorten
Mark Chesney wrote:
> currently, in order to avoid the %domain pop user naming scheme, the only
> choice is ip aliasing, which requires an ip for each and every domain.
> sometimes this is unrealistic or unachievable. why not create a system where
> pop usernames can be unique, but not so clunky.
as with all great feature requests they tend to be accompanied by patches
which contain their implementation :)
Eric
On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Mark Chesney wrote:
> currently, in order to avoid the %domain pop user naming scheme, the only
> choice is ip aliasing, which requires an ip for each and
hotmail use this delimiter, and if
your using outlook express version facafooey, use this delimiter."
-Original Message-
From: Chris Fankhauser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 9:11 AM
To: Mark Chesney
Cc: vpopmail; qmailadmin
Subject: Re: feature request
I
I think that is even more obscure than the user%somedomain.com naming
scheme. Imagine how much trouble you'd have telling users "you receive
email at [EMAIL PROTECTED], but when you login, use the pop account name
'bjs4$2.00'.." What kind of problems are you having with the current
naming scheme
On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 09:05:50AM -0700, Mark Chesney wrote:
> currently, in order to avoid the %domain pop user naming scheme, the only
> choice is ip aliasing, which requires an ip for each and every domain.
> sometimes this is unrealistic or unachievable. why not create a system where
> pop u
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