Re: [Uta] Reviews requested - draft-ietf-uta-ciphersuites-in-sec-syslog

2023-09-06 Thread Salz, Rich
* This is currently the only comment we have seen outside of support for the draft being WGLC complete. Viktor is the only person who has brought this up. Now I know there hasn’t been a lot of discussion, but I’m not sure consensus is with his position. _

Re: [Uta] Reviews requested - draft-ietf-uta-ciphersuites-in-sec-syslog

2023-09-06 Thread Orie Steele
Sorry if I was not clear, I was hoping to see the comment responded to, even if the consensus is to not make changes. Once we can see the group position on it, I think we will have addressed comments raised during WGLC. OS On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 9:02 AM Salz, Rich wrote: > >- This is curre

Re: [Uta] Reviews requested - draft-ietf-uta-ciphersuites-in-sec-syslog

2023-09-06 Thread Chris Lonvick
Hi Viktor and all, I see your point. How about if the phrases "MUST NOT offer TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA" in Sections 4 and 5 be changed to "SHOULD NOT offer..."? This seems to be more consistent with Section 4.2.1 of RFC 9325 (BCP 195) and will continue to allow devices to offer that algorith

Re: [Uta] Reviews requested - draft-ietf-uta-ciphersuites-in-sec-syslog

2023-09-06 Thread Orie Steele
Chair hat off, this suggestion makes sense to me, I would support making the change, unless a strong counter argument is presented. OS On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 11:54 AM Chris Lonvick wrote: > Hi Viktor and all, > > I see your point. > > How about if the phrases "MUST NOT offer TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_12

Re: [Uta] Reviews requested - draft-ietf-uta-ciphersuites-in-sec-syslog

2023-09-06 Thread Ilari Liusvaara
On Wed, Sep 06, 2023 at 12:53:39PM -0400, Chris Lonvick wrote: > Hi Viktor and all, > > I see your point. > > How about if the phrases "MUST NOT offer TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA" in > Sections 4 and 5 be changed to "SHOULD NOT offer..."? > > This seems to be more consistent with Section 4.2.1

Re: [Uta] Reviews requested - draft-ietf-uta-ciphersuites-in-sec-syslog

2023-09-06 Thread Chris Lonvick
Hi Ilari, If a syslog server MUST NOT offer the only cipher suite that an associated client has available then the client will not be able to securely convey syslog messages to that server. That would break things. Changing that to "SHOULD NOT" allows an administrator to evaluate the risks. The ad