Re: AOL

2006-10-10 Thread Christopher Schultz
Martin, > If I go to www.AOL.com I am on their web-server Yup. We're not talking about going to www.aol.com. We're talking about AOL customers browsing this dude's application, which is not hosted through AOL. > and if I check email I am submitting the request thru those sa

Re: AOL

2006-10-10 Thread Martin Gainty
Chris- If I go to www.AOL.com I am on their web-server and if I check email I am submitting the request thru those same web servers If YOU can guarantee ME that they ARE NOT redirecting then as a way to handle the special processing for aol you could do something simple like check the

RE: AOL

2006-10-10 Thread Daniel Blumenthal
Thanks! These are good places to test. > -Original Message- > From: Paul Singleton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 3:06 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: AOL > > Daniel Blumenthal wrote: > >

Re: AOL

2006-10-10 Thread Christopher Schultz
Martin, Apparently, your mail reader seems my messages as blank (due to poor handling of GPG attachments). Here is the message I was trying to send: > Dude, I think you're totally confused. > > You can replace the term "AOL" in all of these messages with "some &

Re: AOL

2006-10-10 Thread Martin Gainty
Tuesday, October 10, 2006 3:08 PM Subject: Re: AOL

Re: AOL

2006-10-10 Thread Christopher Schultz
Martin, > Saying you'll only deal with the first n addresses may lead to bigger > problems later on.. I would put a sniffer on to see if AOL is giving > you a 301/302. If that is the case you will have to configure > variables Cache-Control Expires Dude, I think you're tota

Re: AOL

2006-10-10 Thread Paul Singleton
, all future requests (for some period of time) go to the same server. > The problem is that it appears that AOL will randomly assign an IP address to every request a user sends. They presumably run a proxy farm: the IP addresses from request.getRemoteAddr() should be those of the (last) pr

Re: AOL

2006-10-10 Thread Martin Gainty
Dan- Saying you'll only deal with the first n addresses may lead to bigger problems later on.. I would put a sniffer on to see if AOL is giving you a 301/302 If that is the case you will have to configure variables Cache-Control Expires Martin-- This e-mail communication and any attach

Re: AOL

2006-10-10 Thread Paul Singleton
Daniel Blumenthal wrote: How does the lb decide where you go for all requests after the first one? Typically, the session id is sniffed from the URL or cookie and the lb maintains a table of mappings that expires after some time. Our two choices are evidently "IP-based" and "cookie-based".

Re: AOL

2006-10-10 Thread Christopher Schultz
Dan, > Our two choices are evidently "IP-based" and "cookie-based". > Currently, we're using "IP-based", so every IP address is treated as > a separate request. I'm looking into making it cookie-based, and > making cookies a requirement for the site (currently, we only use > cookies to store a co

Re: AOL

2006-10-10 Thread David Kerber
Daniel Blumenthal wrote: Chris, How does the lb decide where you go for all requests after the first one? Typically, the session id is sniffed from the URL or cookie and the lb maintains a table of mappings that expires after some time. Our two choices are evidently "IP-based" and

RE: AOL

2006-10-10 Thread Daniel Blumenthal
a lot of data going > into the session, I would imagine that it isn't too chatty on > the backend. > > When consulting for [a large robber baron in the SSL cert > racket], their setup was to actually divert all of their AOL > customers away from the main cluster and onto

Re: AOL

2006-10-10 Thread Christopher Schultz
Dan, > The problem is that it appears that AOL will randomly assign an IP > address to every request a user sends. So a user could end up going > to both servers. Yup. AOL is feisty like that. > The load balancer makes the decision to go to app server 1 (app1) or > app server

RE: AOL

2006-10-10 Thread Daniel Blumenthal
Martin, I think there might be a bit of a misunderstanding - America Online (AOL) isn't a server under my control - it's an ISP from which some of my customers come. Daniel > -Original Message- > From: Martin Gainty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, Octob

Re: AOL

2006-10-10 Thread Martin Gainty
Good Morning Dan- It seems you're going thru alot more work because of session expiration issues Do you know if AOL supports 'sticky' sessions? Thanks, M- This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information for the use of the design

RE: AOL

2006-10-10 Thread Daniel Blumenthal
Good morning Martin, Have I misunderstood? The issue isn't switching from using Apache as a front end (for now), but rather that America Online (AOL) uses proxy banks, so that every request comes in with an arbitrary IP address. This is causing two problems: 1) Users are logged in on

Re: AOL

2006-10-10 Thread Martin Gainty
Good Morning Dan From what I see alot of folks are using Hardware accelerators to overcome inherent delay introduced by front ending with apache To clarify everyone's understanding What does AOL bring to your environment and How does AOL server configure in your environment? If I h

Re: AOL

2006-10-10 Thread Mikolaj Rydzewski
, all future requests (for some period of time) go to the same server. The problem is that it appears that AOL will randomly assign an IP address to every request a user sends. So a user could end up going to both servers. You should configure load balancer to use 'sticky sessions' (

Re: AOL

2006-10-10 Thread SSL
nt to manage incoming connections. The load balancer makes the > decision > to go to app server 1 (app1) or app server 2 (app2) based on IP address - > once a request comes in from one source IP, all future requests (for some > period of time) go to the same server. > > The problem is

AOL

2006-10-09 Thread Daniel Blumenthal
some period of time) go to the same server. The problem is that it appears that AOL will randomly assign an IP address to every request a user sends. So a user could end up going to both servers. With the exception of user login data, the code is reentrant, but I've had to store login inform