Re: Proposal for a new book: Mastering Apache Tapestry

2013-08-23 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
Back to the discussion. :) On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 06:50:16 -0300, Geoff Callender wrote: I completely agree. If the aim is to help Tapestry then why not do as described below by Alessi? Alessi's suggestion looks quite good to me. I'd describe it as releasing minibooks. :) I'm just afraid

Re: Proposal for a new book: Mastering Apache Tapestry

2013-08-09 Thread Alessio Gambi
Another topic of great impact would be 'design methodologies with tapestry': By just knowing the main features of the framework (Ioc, components, ...) and without considering its internals what one can say about best design practices? Are there any suggested workflows of design that exploit tap

Re: Proposal for a new book: Mastering Apache Tapestry

2013-08-08 Thread Bogdan Ivascu
I would find a Tapestry book covering in depth Tap-Ioc very appealing. Another area of great interest for me is the client side part of Tapestry as I find myself writing more and more client side code these days. In depth ajax coverage would be a great addition to existing material, in my opinion.

Re: Proposal for a new book: Mastering Apache Tapestry

2013-08-08 Thread Geoff Callender
I completely agree. If the aim is to help Tapestry then why not do as described below by Alessi? Equally useful, in my opinion, would be to contribute "advanced topic" pages to Tapestry's web documentation. You would reach a much bigger audience. You could reach them sooner, because the contrib

Re: Proposal for a new book: Mastering Apache Tapestry

2013-08-07 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:51:22 -0300, Lenny Primak wrote: I look at it a different way. Tapestry is Tapestry. Most people who would buy the book won't be tapestry experts, and won't know which book to buy, which will add to the confusion. One would have the word Advanced on it, the other

Re: Proposal for a new book: Mastering Apache Tapestry

2013-08-07 Thread Lenny Primak
I look at it a different way. Tapestry is Tapestry. Most people who would buy the book won't be tapestry experts, and won't know which book to buy, which will add to the confusion. Most technical books go from simple to more advanced, and don't make you buy an 'advanced' book. IoC, etc. chapt

Re: Proposal for a new book: Mastering Apache Tapestry

2013-08-07 Thread Muhammad Gelbana
> > > Thiago: > I think this is out of the focus of the book. I don't plan to include > chapters or sections that demand knowing stuff which isn't Tapestry or > Tapestry-IoC. That alone makes me very excited for the book :) Tapestry is a marvelous framework. Made by developers for developers (N

Re: Proposal for a new book: Mastering Apache Tapestry

2013-08-07 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
Hello, Norman! That's exactly the feedback I was looking for. Thank you very, very much! Yeah, you've convinced me of talking about security, even if it's just one security framework (Shiro) and explaining just the core concepts and how to make them work in Tapestry. It wouldn't make sense

Re: Proposal for a new book: Mastering Apache Tapestry

2013-08-07 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 01:34:30 -0300, Lenny Primak wrote: I was going to write a message, but most of what I wanted to say was already said. I am not sure that there is enough of an audience for two books. Even if the two books cover have different content and focuses? Igor's book level i

Re: Proposal for a new book: Mastering Apache Tapestry

2013-08-07 Thread Arve Klev
I would like such a book, and hope that it will be based on the upcoming Tapestry 5.4-version. That way the book will be relevant regardless of Igor's book (witch I also bought). A good in-depth example of integration-testing would be nice. Regards, Arve Klev (arvek...@gmail.com)

Re: Proposal for a new book: Mastering Apache Tapestry

2013-08-06 Thread Alessio Gambi
Sorry ... The phone tricked me, and I send a draft of the email :) If we pass over my syntactical and grammatical errors I think you will understand the main message anyway. Cheers -- Alessio On 7-ago-2013, at 08:35, Alessio Gambi wrote: >> I am not sure that there is enough of an audience

Re: Proposal for a new book: Mastering Apache Tapestry

2013-08-06 Thread Alessio Gambi
> I am not sure that there is enough of an audience for two books. > Perhaps you can cooperate with Igor to get your content into his book? > There would be a lot of marketing synergy there at least. Writing a book is a huge commitment and takes usually a lot of time; and if we consider the fast p

Re: Proposal for a new book: Mastering Apache Tapestry

2013-08-06 Thread Lenny Primak
I was going to write a message, but most of what I wanted to say was already said. I am not sure that there is enough of an audience for two books. Perhaps you can cooperate with Igor to get your content into his book? There would be a lot of marketing synergy there at least. On Aug 5, 2013, at 4

Re: Proposal for a new book: Mastering Apache Tapestry

2013-08-06 Thread Norman Franke
On Aug 6, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo wrote: >> Some topics I'd be interested in: >> - Application security, authentication and authorization- best practices >> with several popular frameworks > > Several popular frameworks? Which ones? > > Doesn't this fall a little over th

Re: Proposal for a new book: Mastering Apache Tapestry

2013-08-06 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 16:50:53 -0300, Matheus Eduardo Machado Moreira wrote: It would be good to have a nice book about Tapestry-IOC. And your explanations about the container could use a lot of Tapestry (web framework) code. This could be a good strategy to a deep understanding about IOC an

Re: Proposal for a new book: Mastering Apache Tapestry

2013-08-06 Thread Matheus Eduardo Machado Moreira
It would be good to have a nice book about Tapestry-IOC. And your explanations about the container could use a lot of Tapestry (web framework) code. This could be a good strategy to a deep understanding about IOC and Core at the same time. "Integration" is a subject in my mind too. It would

Re: Proposal for a new book: Mastering Apache Tapestry

2013-08-06 Thread Onno Scheffers
> > > Some topics I'd be interested in: >> - Application security, authentication and authorization- best practices >> with several popular frameworks >> > > Several popular frameworks? Which ones? > I'd say the most popular ones are Shiro and Spring Security. So far I have only rolled my own bas

Re: Proposal for a new book: Mastering Apache Tapestry

2013-08-06 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 07:52:50 -0300, Onno Scheffers wrote: Looking forward to this. More books will be good for Tapestry, especially when they start covering more advanced topics such as in-depth Tapestry IOC. I will buy a copy. Nice! :) Some topics I'd be interested in: - Application securi

Re: Proposal for a new book: Mastering Apache Tapestry

2013-08-06 Thread Onno Scheffers
Looking forward to this. More books will be good for Tapestry, especially when they start covering more advanced topics such as in-depth Tapestry IOC. I will buy a copy. Some topics I'd be interested in: - Application security, authentication and authorization- best practices with several popular

Re: Proposal for a new book: Mastering Apache Tapestry

2013-08-05 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 19:10:57 -0300, Dimitris Zenios wrote: I would love to see a book for tapestry-ioc,plastic only.And how it can integrate with other forms of application and compete with spring etc etc This book has the intention of covering 100% of Tapestry-IoC and most of Plastic, at

Re: Proposal for a new book: Mastering Apache Tapestry

2013-08-05 Thread Dimitris Zenios
I would love to see a book for tapestry-ioc,plastic only.And how it can integrate with other forms of application and compete with spring etc etc On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < thiag...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 17:13:54 -0300, Thiago H de Paula Fig

Re: Proposal for a new book: Mastering Apache Tapestry

2013-08-05 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 17:13:54 -0300, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo wrote: * I thought about a cookbook section, but I'm not sure what people would find interesting. * You may suggest by asking questions about Tapestry or how to implement something with it, even if it sounds preposterous.

Proposal for a new book: Mastering Apache Tapestry

2013-08-05 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
Hi! I've said a handful of times in this mailing list that I'd love to write a book on Tapestry. With crowdsourcing sites like Kickstarter and Indiegogo, I can check whether there's demand enough for the book before writing. In addition, it seems I'll have the free time needed to start work

Re: new book

2006-12-05 Thread Warner Onstine
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RE: new book

2006-12-05 Thread Thomas.Vaughan
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RE: new book

2006-12-05 Thread Kevin Menard
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2006-12-05 Thread Dirk Markert
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RE: new book

2006-12-05 Thread Greg.L.Cormier
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2006-12-05 Thread Warner Onstine
Hi all, Just wanted to give you a heads up that my book, "Tapestry 101", is now available for download at http://sourcebeat.com/books/ tapestrylive.html . This book is geared at new users of Tapestry and it isn't meant as a reference book, so if you've been doing Tapestry 4 for a while it p