Re: Tapestry 6: Famous last words?

2009-06-27 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
Em Sat, 27 Jun 2009 05:34:09 -0300, Piero Sartini escreveu: I expect the T5 IOC to live well beyond the web framework portion. T5 IoC is very powerful. Yes it is. And it's a pleasure to use. But at this point I am not so sure if Tapestry IoC is the best answer to flexibility. Take a loo

Re: Tapestry 6: Famous last words?

2009-06-27 Thread Piero Sartini
> I expect the T5 IOC to live well beyond the web framework portion. T5 IoC is very powerful. But at this point I am not so sure if Tapestry IoC is the best answer to flexibility. Take a look at Struts2 - they are able to switch their DI implementation by configuration. This brings them a lot

Re: Tapestry 6: Famous last words?

2009-06-26 Thread Daniel Jue
Heh..the first release of Windows NT was v3.1, so I guess there is nothing sacred with version numbers. Not to mention Sun marketing. ;-) I imagine once the paradigms shift enough because of new innovations/evolution of standards, a new product will have to emerge to support it. It just won't be

Re: Tapestry 6: Famous last words?

2009-06-26 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
Em Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:03:13 -0300, Michael Gentry escreveu: "I just felt the need to reiterate that I don't see there ever being a T6;..." Simple: T5.0 => T5.1 => ... => T5.9 => T7.0 hehehe :) Another path would be T5.0 => T5.1 => ... => T5.9 => ... T5.10 ... (supposing backward-comp

Re: Tapestry 6: Famous last words?

2009-06-26 Thread Michael Gentry
"I just felt the need to reiterate that I don't see there ever being a T6;..." Simple: T5.0 => T5.1 => ... => T5.9 => T7.0 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h..

Re: Tapestry 6: Famous last words?

2009-06-26 Thread Brandon Atkinson
I agree. Breaking backwards compatibility between major revisions is why developers make a distinction between major and minor revisions.There is nothing inherently wrong with incompatible major revisions. The problem occurs when... 1) Major revisions are released too frequently (likely due to

Re: Tapestry 6: Famous last words?

2009-06-26 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
Em Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:40:28 -0300, escreveu: In fact, quite the contrary, it dissuades people who are evaluating Tapestry. During Tapestry's long history, most people complained about the lack of backward compatibility. Some even chose to not use Tapestry because of that. It was the sou

Tapestry 6: Famous last words?

2009-06-26 Thread kranga
I saw the following comment on Howard's blog and felt compelled to comment: "I just felt the need to reiterate that I don't see there ever being a T6; I see a stream of backwards compatible updates to Tapestry 5.1. In fact, I think the 5.0 -> 5.1 transition was a little rougher than I'd like for

RE: Tapestry 6

2008-02-18 Thread Jonathan Barker
Geez, did Howard pee in this guy's Corn Flakes back in college or something? > -Original Message- > From: Ted Steen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:07 AM > To: Tapestry users > Subject: Re: Tapestry 6 > > Of course it's no

Re: Tapestry 6

2008-02-18 Thread Pai911
008/2/18, Pai911 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> >> >> Joseph Kobe wrote: >> > >> > Ok Howard, thanks for your private mail to me clarifying my concerns >> about >> > Tapestry 6, upcoming in 4th quater of 2008. I must be honest and open, >> >

Re: Tapestry 6

2008-02-18 Thread Martijn Brinkers
i911 wrote: > > > Joseph Kobe wrote: > > > > Ok Howard, thanks for your private mail to me clarifying my concerns about > > Tapestry 6, upcoming in 4th quater of 2008. I must be honest and open, > > hence my reply via this medium, that I disagree with you about re

Re: Tapestry 6

2008-02-18 Thread Ted Steen
Of course it's not true! Emmanuel Sowah and Joseph Kobe are the same schizophrenic troll. Please just ignore. 2008/2/18, Pai911 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Joseph Kobe wrote: > > > > Ok Howard, thanks for your private mail to me clarifying my concerns ab

Re: Tapestry 6

2008-02-18 Thread Pai911
Joseph Kobe wrote: > > Ok Howard, thanks for your private mail to me clarifying my concerns about > Tapestry 6, upcoming in 4th quater of 2008. I must be honest and open, > hence my reply via this medium, that I disagree with you about rewriting > Tapestry yet again from scratc

Re: Tapestry 6

2008-02-18 Thread Robin Helgelin
LOL! On Feb 17, 2008 11:34 PM, Joseph Kobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok Howard, thanks for your private mail to me clarifying my concerns about > Tapestry 6, upcoming in 4th quater of 2008. I must be honest and open, hence > my reply via this medium, that I disagree with you

Tapestry 6

2008-02-17 Thread Joseph Kobe
Ok Howard, thanks for your private mail to me clarifying my concerns about Tapestry 6, upcoming in 4th quater of 2008. I must be honest and open, hence my reply via this medium, that I disagree with you about rewriting Tapestry yet again from scratch and again not being backward compatible

Re: Tapestry 6

2007-12-07 Thread Marcus
Hi Emmanuel, If T5 still in alpha, what T6 will be? pre-alpha? :) I don't think so, just rumour. In my opinion T5 is the best framework available. I believe in Howard's work. Marcus

Re: Tapestry 6

2007-12-07 Thread Angelo Turetta
Emmanuel Sowah wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Emmanuel Sowah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Dec 6, 2007 4:53 PM I'm using PageTester as well so be warned and don't break things. B scaring :) I heard there is a secret work on T6 Why do you always have to re-invent

Re: Tapestry 6

2007-12-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
without breaking backwards compatibility going forward. There will not need to be a Tapestry 6. * Unless Howard has changed his mind, I don't have any reason to believe that Howard is already planning a Tapestry 6 without full backward compatib

Re: Tapestry 6

2007-12-06 Thread Andy Huhn
I'm curious, Emmanuel...how much have you contributed to Tapestry? On Thu, 2007-12-06 at 21:35 +0100, Emmanuel Sowah wrote: > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Emmanuel Sowah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Dec 6, 2007 4:53 PM > Subject: Re: T5: Anyone using PageTester? > To: Tapestry us

Re: Tapestry 6

2007-12-06 Thread Josh Canfield
-1 troll fud... too bad you can't vote down email list comments. On Dec 6, 2007 12:35 PM, Emmanuel Sowah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Emmanuel Sowah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Dec 6, 2007 4:53 PM > Subject: Re: T5: Anyone using PageTester? > To: Ta

Re: Tapestry 6

2007-12-06 Thread Thiago HP
of the statement above. In http://jroller.com/WarnerOnstine/entry/why_hasn_t_tapestry_been, Howard wrote: *(...) the design of Tapestry 5 was created specifically to make it possible to continue adding features without breaking backwards compatibility going forward. There will not need to be a

Tapestry 6

2007-12-06 Thread Emmanuel Sowah
-- Forwarded message -- From: Emmanuel Sowah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Dec 6, 2007 4:53 PM Subject: Re: T5: Anyone using PageTester? To: Tapestry users Howard, I'm using PageTester as well so be warned and don't break things. I think this habit of yours of breaking things you t