A released product needs to achieve 'true' stability in the code base,
especially with regards to internals, I imagine that keeping tapestry as
an Alpha/Beta allows more flexibility to modify the internals without
causing waves in the community. I always have had the feeing that
production rele
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I'll have a better idea about the roadmap at the end of this week.
> >>>>
> >>>> I've been working
realistic date
?
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>> > a
>> > web app (it's in Swing). This has slowed down progress on Tapestry 5,
>> > alas.
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>> > On 9/13/07, petros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> >>
>> >> The tapestry 5 w
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:35:15 -0200, Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Unfortunately, I'm going to only be working on Tapestry part time until
Q1, when I finally (keep fingers crossed) will be working on Tapestry
at least part of the time on salaried, not personal, time.
Mental
s slowed down progress on Tapestry 5,
> > alas.
> >
> > On 9/13/07, petros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> The tapestry 5 website says that the final release of T5 is fall 2007.
> Is
> >> this still realistic ? If not can you
ill realistic ? If not can you please provide a realistic date ?
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On 10/23/07, Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Let me repeat ... I have seven years of experience (in Tapestry) on how NOT
> to be backwards compatible. T5 is all about ensuring future backwards
> compatibility without compromising the ability to enhance the framework
> going forward.
I am apparently a bit touchy this week, Kranga, et al. Please
forgive. I also wasn't stating that lack of compatibility was an
industry norm. I was saying, merely, that often (and demonstrably) a
major version number implies a lack of complete backwards
compatibility. That was all. Jus
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Ok, whatever. I give in. I'll go and use T4 and whine at Howard now.
Oh wait, no I won't. I
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Egregious? That demands and answer and perhaps an apology.
Firstly, try porting and app from Weblogi
I with you, here. But (as you know, 'cause you did it) sometimes you
have to start over to get it right. One can architect one into a
corner, and evolving back into a good state isn't always possible.
Christian.
On 23-Oct-07, at 11:51 AM, Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
Let me repeat ... I have
Let me repeat ... I have seven years of experience (in Tapestry) on how NOT
to be backwards compatible. T5 is all about ensuring future backwards
compatibility without compromising the ability to enhance the framework
going forward.
On 10/23/07, Christian Gruber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ok,
Ok, whatever. I give in. I'll go and use T4 and whine at Howard
now. Oh wait, no I won't. I'll work on T5 and try to encourage it
into as re-usable, and less brittle and change-vulnerable a form as I
can, so that there is more likelihood of upgradability. (Howard's
doing quite well abou
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:15:03 -0300, Peter Stavrinides
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
but Tapestry will die a quick death, no matter how good it is under the
hood, if you slap devotees in the face again and again.
Howard has stated very clearly that there will be no Tapestry 6 or, at
least, th
tian Gruber"
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I'm not sure where "incompatible releases" comes in. No one releases
1.0 -> 2.0 compatible releases except O/S vendors. T
er" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'm not sure where "incompatible releases" comes in. No one
releases 1.0 -> 2.0 compatible releases except O/S vendors.
That&#
Cents, Max
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
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> Betreff: Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap
>
> That is an incredible statement! There have been numerous
> discussions on
> this mailing l
egregious.
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I'm not sure where "incompatible releases" comes in. No one releases
1.0 -&g
ght now, which in my mind IS released... Certainly my time to
> market even factoring in learning-curve has improved over JSF or
> Struts 2.
>
> Christian.
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The one question I could not answer without looking ridiculous
was "What
happens to our multi-million dollar project if Howard is hit by a
bus
tomorrow"
I think the question is i
x foundation for instance. So the competitive advantage is not
clear cut.
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The one question I could n
loosing the battle of convincing them to
>> choose T5 over JSF.
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>>> The one question I could not answer without looking ridiculous was "What
>>> happens to our mul
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The one question I could not answer without looking ridiculous was "What
happens to our multi-million dolla
> The one question I could not answer without looking ridiculous was "What
> happens to our multi-million dollar project if Howard is hit by a bus
> tomorrow"
I think the question is irrelevant. The question you should be answering:
Is the current base usable enough to push through on the project?
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> > Actually, this is one advantage of Tapestry: guaranteed quality.
>
> That flies in the fac
Actually, this is one advantage of Tapestry: guaranteed quality.
That flies in the face of the philosophy of open source ...
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says that the final release of T5 is fall 2007. Is
this still realistic ? If not can you please provide a realistic date ?
Petros
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You seriously recommending a framework in a alpha status for a
multi-million dollar project ? Don't get me wrong,
i like tapestry and i'am using version 4.1 in 2 projects, but i would
never use alphas/betas framework without go
You seriously recommending a framework in a alpha status for a
multi-million dollar project ? Don't get me wrong,
i like tapestry and i'am using version 4.1 in 2 projects, but i would
never use alphas/betas framework without good documentation/books in
production.
michael
petros wrote:
I am
> 2. Tapestry is an one man show. ..
Actually, this is one advantage of Tapestry: guaranteed quality.
On 10/17/07, Daniel Jue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > "What
> > happens to our multi-million dollar project if Howard is hit by a bus
> > tomorrow"
>
> Yes, please don't do that.
>
>
> "What
> happens to our multi-million dollar project if Howard is hit by a bus
> tomorrow"
Yes, please don't do that.
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