[T3] Spindle for Tapestry 3 and Eclipse 3.4

2008-09-30 Thread Geoff Longman
(assuming this will make it through moderation!) [T3] Spindle for *Tapestry 3* and Eclipse 3.4 A build (3.4.1) of Spindle for Tapestry 3 that works correctly in Eclipse 3.4.X has been published. Please read the release notes as it is *not* available from the old update site. Eventually the old u

Re: TapIDEA future, post "Time to move on"

2006-08-29 Thread Geoff Longman
Francis Amanfo - I admire your passion. Please don't hijack my name or situation to push your agenda. I feel as strongly as anyone else who is pro tooling but to use me as a basis for attack on Howard alienates many and does nothing to further your wishes. I feel it belittles my many years of hard

Test (duck!)

2006-08-29 Thread Geoff Longman
I unsubscribed (and have the final GOODBYE message to prove it) but I'm still getting mail.. More to follow about IDE support Geoff

Time to move on..

2006-08-26 Thread Geoff Longman
It's been a blast... http://jroller.com/page/glongman?entry=time_to_move_on Geoff

Re: xml parse error if the jakarta site is not accessible

2006-06-27 Thread Geoff Longman
file Regards, Ryan On Tuesday, June 27, 2006, at 12:01PM, Geoff Longman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >There's a bigger problem here. During normal Tapestry operation >network requests will never be made for the DTD's, the >SpecificationParser is hardwired to pull them from the

Re: xml parse error if the jakarta site is not accessible

2006-06-27 Thread Geoff Longman
There's a bigger problem here. During normal Tapestry operation network requests will never be made for the DTD's, the SpecificationParser is hardwired to pull them from the Tapestry jar. Are you running some external tool that needs the DTDs? Geoff On 6/27/06, Norbert Sándor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Tapestry 3 to 4.1 to 5

2006-06-24 Thread Geoff Longman
I would beg to differ. Hivemind is not optional in many cases, the following are items that I think are not unusual things to do in Tapestry and all require knowledge of Hivemind. Override or provide new services: http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4/UsersGuide/upgrade.html#upgrade.service (This

Re: Any other Tapestry developers in Ottawa?

2006-06-18 Thread Geoff Longman
oops wrong list. On 6/18/06, Geoff Longman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I know a handful, and except in one case I was the person who introduced all of them to the framework. But I've never heard a peep from any others. Just wondering. Geoff -- The Spindle guy. http://spindle.

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread Geoff Longman
nd of conventions do you have in mind for Tapestry to enforce? -Original Message- From: Geoff Longman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:48 PM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: custom namespace Geez, I need to socialize more here. We have 14 developers. Geoff On 6/15/06

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread Geoff Longman
Geez, I need to socialize more here. We have 14 developers. Geoff On 6/15/06, Geoff Longman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I wonder how hard it is to break from the conventions in Rails. I would expect that with Tapestry+HM it would be pretty easy. Tapestry, in some cases, has to

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread Geoff Longman
o convention. Geoff On 6/15/06, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nothing's wrong with conventions. Tapestry already uses them somewhat (page names map to classnames in the default page package). Rails gets a *lot* done by just using conventions. -----Original Message- Fro

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread Geoff Longman
] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:20 PM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: custom namespace +1 for that rant. Geoff Longman wrote: > Good God No! > > While I love the idea of auto discovery of libraries, every time I see > a quick suggestion to use Hivemind I cringe. > > IMO HM is *

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread Geoff Longman
ut it in the META-INF dir of the jar and have Tapestry autodiscover it. ? Geoff On 6/15/06, Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the context of that suggestion, where would you see this configuration > data going ? > > On 6/15/06, Geoff Longman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread Geoff Longman
context of that suggestion, where would you see this configuration data going ? On 6/15/06, Geoff Longman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Good God No! > > While I love the idea of auto discovery of libraries, every time I see > a quick suggestion to use Hivemind I cringe. &g

Re: To Generate Tapestry Page Class Before 1st Access

2006-06-15 Thread Geoff Longman
ur portlet applications. John - Original Message From: Geoff Longman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Tapestry users Sent: Thursday, 15 June, 2006 3:30:50 PM Subject: Re: To Generate Tapestry Page Class Before 1st Access Trying to do this is a wasted effort regardless of the tool chosen to d

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread Geoff Longman
s which means that because of this issue, many libraries must be specified "by hand". Not a big problem, just tried to avoid it :) Regards, Norbi Geoff Longman wrote: > Yes, that's true. But is that really a problem? Contrib has the same > issue. > > Geoff > > On

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread Geoff Longman
Yes, that's true. But is that really a problem? Contrib has the same issue. Geoff On 6/15/06, Norbert Sándor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks! This means that I must force the user of my component library to define my library with a fix alias in the .application file. Regards, Norbi Jesse K

Re: To Generate Tapestry Page Class Before 1st Access

2006-06-15 Thread Geoff Longman
Trying to do this is a wasted effort regardless of the tool chosen to do it. I mean that even if you hit every page in the application, you are only injecting one instance of each page into the pool. All you buy is a faster response for the first access. Subsequent, concurrent, access of any page

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-14 Thread Geoff Longman
Short answer is you can't. The namespaces are created by parsing .application or .library files. Except for Framework.library - which is a special case, every library must be declared in a "parent" namespace specification file as that's the mechanism Tapestry has to "discover" nested namespaces.

Re: @Meta doesn't allow different template extension

2006-05-28 Thread Geoff Longman
switching the template requires an Asset with the name '$template'. Dunno how that's done with annotations though. Geoff On 5/28/06, Paul Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I expected that adding this annotation would allow me to name the template "Foo.xml" instead of "Foo.html": @Meta("

Re: Spindle - refererences unknown component on startup

2006-05-24 Thread Geoff Longman
:-P There seems to be an issue in 3.2.14 - I would recommend using 3.2.13 instead until I get a chance to look at it. Pls check the existing bug about 3.2.14 at sf and add a comment/attach your log file. thx. G On 5/24/06, Francis Amanfo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Dan, Don't expect a qui

Re: Google Web Toolkit

2006-05-23 Thread Geoff Longman
I got capture working http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit/browse_frm/thread/3e4954b5cc5f3492/8197b5a553276701#8197b5a553276701 this is what I believe to be the first step to integrating GWT widgets into Tapestry forms. Now... back to Spindle 4T4! Geoff On 5/23/06, Geoff Longman

Re: Google Web Toolkit

2006-05-23 Thread Geoff Longman
; If there was just one more day in the week, and I could have it all to > myself. :) > > Like I said, it looks really interesting, I'll need to find time to really > dig into it. > > On 5/23/06, Geoff Longman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > >

Re: Google Web Toolkit

2006-05-23 Thread Geoff Longman
4. It doesn't lend itself to the separation of concerns between UI design and webapp development. In its current form yes, and no. The widgetry created in code - yes. Where individual chunks of widgetry are located on a page - no. A page can be all GWT or just a few bits of it quite easily. An

Re: Google Web Toolkit

2006-05-23 Thread Geoff Longman
Go try it out and then comment. Geoff On 5/23/06, Alex Kartashev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Paul Cantrell wrote: > I completely agree with about 90% of what Todd writes. This is > definitely not a flash in the pan, and the idea of using an > intermediate language (Java, in this case) that comp

Re: Google Web Toolkit

2006-05-21 Thread Geoff Longman
I used to be a proponent of Applets but there are so many known problems (just read the preceding messages) and so little done about it for so long that I have given up on them. Maybe some day all the issue will be fixed - don't hold your breath. Flash.. yuck. The idea is nice the authoring tools

Re: What is the explicit HTTP GET URL of tapestry form interaction?

2006-05-20 Thread Geoff Longman
You can set the 'method' attribute on the Form to GET and see it in the browser. Geoff On 5/20/06, Tian-Jian Barabbas [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear all, It's me, again. Now I'm curious about what is the explicit HTTP GET URL of tapestry form interaction. That is, I have a s

Re: Google Web Toolkit

2006-05-20 Thread Geoff Longman
I will be posting the code. Probably on Monday. Right now I'm working on Spindle 4T4 ;-) Geoff On 5/20/06, Mário Lopes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Seems really cool Geoff. Could you post the source code to take a look? -- Mário On 5/21/06, Geoff Longman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

Re: Google Web Toolkit

2006-05-20 Thread Geoff Longman
I has some luck with GWT last night duplicating the Tacos autocompleter. here's a movie of it... http://spindle.sourceforge.net/AutoCompleterDemo.htm Geoff On 5/19/06, Geoff Longman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Very sweet. If this had existed a few years ago the number of web fr

Re: Google Web Toolkit

2006-05-19 Thread Geoff Longman
Very sweet. If this had existed a few years ago the number of web frameworks in java would be much less than it is today. I finally got it running yesterday (my fault - no free time) and lickety split I had converted some simple Tapestry stuff we have a work here. Nothing complete mind you but fo

Re: new logo for Tapestry

2006-05-18 Thread Geoff Longman
o/logo.png What do you say? -Borut Geoff Longman pravi: > Have a look at the Spindle logo at http://spindle.sf.net > > Behind the swoopy S is a version of the old T logo I like a lot - > looks like an architectural drawing. > > Alas, I lost the original vector artwork for that lo

Re: Why .page and not .xml for the template ?

2006-05-18 Thread Geoff Longman
Yes you can provide the delegate. The delegate is the short circuit. I was referring to the fact that the regular coded part of Tapestry is not configurable. Geoff On 5/18/06, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Or, maybe we should be setting the " org.apache.tapestry.specification-resolver

Re: Why .page and not .xml for the template ?

2006-05-18 Thread Geoff Longman
d be useful. On 5/17/06, Geoff Longman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's a convention that was decided on years before Hibernate existed. > > I like it the way it is. .page = a Page > > Geoff > > On 5/17/06, ZedroS Schwart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: &g

Re: Why .page and not .xml for the template ?

2006-05-17 Thread Geoff Longman
It's a convention that was decided on years before Hibernate existed. I like it the way it is. .page = a Page Geoff On 5/17/06, ZedroS Schwart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We agree ;) But there may be a good reason behind these .page. Does anyone know ? Thanks in advance ZedroS On 5/16/06, Kon

Re: new logo for Tapestry (just my opinion and my idea pic, don't mad OK)

2006-05-17 Thread Geoff Longman
Have a look at the Spindle logo at http://spindle.sf.net Behind the swoopy S is a version of the old T logo I like a lot - looks like an architectural drawing. Alas, I lost the original vector artwork for that logo long ago. Geoff On 5/17/06, Steven Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I must say

Re: Passing a byte array into a component???

2006-05-16 Thread Geoff Longman
public abstract IBinding getByteArrayBinding(); public (or private up to you) byte [] getByteArray() { IBinding binding = getByteArrayBinding(); if (binding == null) return null; return (byte[])binding.getObject(); } On 5/16/06, Geoff Longman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: Passing a byte array into a component???

2006-05-16 Thread Geoff Longman
A byte array is an Object :-) geoff On 5/16/06, Mark Stang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Geoff, T3, but custom wants an object right? thanks, Mark -Original Message- From: Geoff Longman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 5/16/2006 1:19 PM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: Pas

Re: Passing a byte array into a component???

2006-05-16 Thread Geoff Longman
T3? You can always use 'custom' Geoff On 5/16/06, Mark Stang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: All, I am trying to pass in a byte[] into a component. However, I only seem to have "in" available. And it seems to be null when I go looking later. thoughts? thanks, Mark -- The Spindle guy. htt

Re: Spindle - Move implicit to spec.

2006-05-16 Thread Geoff Longman
Refactor will not enable if: 1. tag has no valid jwcid attribute 2. an attribute has an unclosed quote 3. an attribute appears more than once in the tag 4. an attribute has no value (no equals + quotes). Geoff On 5/16/06, Joel Trunick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I can't get the Refactor - move

Re: Tapestry Mailing list

2006-05-16 Thread Geoff Longman
Waimun, You might have been unsubscribed due to bounces maybe? The old address is still good, for now, but you must resubscribe to the new one.. Everybody else... The web page still shows the subscribe url for the old jakarta list. What is the new subscribe address? Geoff On 5/15/06, Waimun

Re: dependent drop down list, ognl.InappropriateExpressionException

2006-05-11 Thread Geoff Longman
Robert, The Option component expects that the selected parameter is bound to an expression that it can read *and* write to. In other words it expects the expression to evaluate to a bean property. You expression works on a render (read) as it evals to a boolean and that's ok, a value would be wh

Re: form enctype

2006-05-10 Thread Geoff Longman
you should add to the form: that + . worked for us (with Jetty) Geoff On 5/10/06, marcopar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In data Wed, 10 May 2006 15:43:21 +0200, Andreas Idl ha scritto: > maybe you have a wrong charset defined. > > AFAIK the browser posts the form encoded according to the html

Re: tapestryforums.com

2006-05-09 Thread Geoff Longman
Nice idea. Bad execution. +1 to giving it the boot. Geoff On 5/9/06, Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think some agreement needs to be come to about tapestryforums.com. As we receive a ~lot~ of spam from this service every day I'm less and less enthusiastic about its continued operat

Re: JettyLauncher [was: Spindle in Eclipse 3.2]

2006-05-09 Thread Geoff Longman
se 3.2.x is the first stream to support the new Intel-based Macs. Just thought I'd point that out if you were unaware of the issue. Thanks! /dev/mrg -Original Message- From: Geoff Longman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 1:47 PM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: S