Hello all,
I’m exploring the possibility of adding ETag headers to images my
Tapestry application is serving, to help improve performance on slower
networks.
It seems that Apache Server automatically adds ETag headers to images
sourced from static files (Tapestry @Asset), but not when Tapest
Conclusion:
The callback mechanism for modifying RequireJS's configuration on the go
seems to have done the trick. I was able to disable RequireJS's default
7 second timeout.
Not being entirely sure of when in the page's lifecycle the JS gets sent
and the timeout clock starts ticking, I mad
Hi Ben,
Thank you for those suggestions.
In my case, RequireJS is pulling a remote JavaScript library as per the
@Import annotation (below) on the pages’s class, so not a local jQuery
module. The issue seems to arise when a user expands/refreshes a
particular zone containing a large number o
Hi team,
Starting with version 5.4, Tapestry uses RequireJS modules internally,
and provides support for using RequireJS modules in our own Tapestry
applications. I'm wondering whether there is a mechanism in place for
configuring RequireJS from my AppModule?
On networks with slow internet
Hi Ben,
Your "educated guess" proved to be entirely correct!
I added the below method to my RegistryProxy class, and calling it from
the @OnMessage annotated method of the WebSocket server endpoint ensures
Hibernate sessions get closed on completion and associated DB
connections are released
Hi Ben,
Thank you for those helpful suggestions! You're right... debugging is
tricky given the large number of moving parts. 😊
I've made some progress since last writing. By activating
"hibernate.c3p0.debugUnreturnedConnectionStackTraces" within my
Hibernate configuration I've been able to
Hi,
My application's DAO class is employing an injected Hibernate Session
for accessing a MySQL DB. Connection pooling is provided by C3PO.
My understanding is that the Tapestry Hibernate IoC (per thread) service
takes care of closing DB connections under the hood, releasing them back
to th
Thank you Ben, also for detailing a workaround.
Glad to hear you are on the matter.
The web application I upgraded isn't particularly busy and I've opted to
disable minification, as below, until a permanent fix is in place,
possibly version 5.8.7.
configuration.override(SymbolConstants.M
Hi all,
Today I encountered the below exception after upgrading from Tapestry
5.8.2 to 5.8.6, and am wondering what changed between these versions
that might have led to this. A dependency incompatibility perhaps?
Evidently not liking the angle bracket immediately following
"StreamableResou
Hi Ben,
Thank you for your investigative efforts, even though you weren't yet
able to pinpoint the exact cause. And thank you, you and Vangel, for
sharing that workaround.
Occasionally, this HibernateCrudServiceDAO method works as expected.
Most times not. This seeming randomness fits wit
Hello,
I've encountered an issue after upgrading from Tapestry 5.6.4 to 5.7.3.
This included moving from Hibernate 5.1.0.Final to 5.4.32.Final (as per
the guidelines).
The HibernateCrudServiceDAO method below is now failing to fetch named
queries via the injected org.hibernate.Session, resu
Hello,
Today, with the help of the handy migration tool, I upgraded from
Tapestry 5.6.4 to 5.7.3. Below are some packages which it missed.
Just letting you know in case you might like to add these to the tool's
properties file for future users.
org.apache.tapestry5.beaneditor.BeanModel
Thanks for those links, Geoff. Actually, I'm more interested in your
Grid example where you provide this component with an encoder.
http://jumpstart.doublenegative.com.au/jumpstart/examples/tables/gridwithdeletecolumn1
When I try to do likewise, my IDE complains: "Attribute t:encoder is
Thanks for those links, Geoff.
Actually, I'm more interested in your
"jumpstart/examples/tables/gridwithdeletecolumn1" Grid example where you
provide this component with an encoder. When I try to do likewise, my
IDE complains: "Attribute t:encoder is not allowed here". Not sure
whether this
Hi all,
I've identified the source of the problem. It was a small omission in
the HQL which resulted in an Object[] of fields rather than an entire
entity being handed onto the Grid component, hence "[Ljava.lang.Object;"
in the exception message below.
"Could not find a coercion from ty
Thank you for those suggestions, Volker.
The common theme seems to be that I should allow Tapestry to create a
default BeanModel rather than create a new instance of one in my Java
class, correct? Your second suggestion is nearest to what I've done,
except that I return a new BeanModel.
Jus
Hi all,
I'm trying out the Tapestry Grid component for the first time in one of
my projects. During rendering I'm presented with the below exception.
"Render queue error in BeginRender[vessel/Read:grid.rows]: Failure
writing parameter 'row' of component vessel/Read:grid.rows: Failure
wr
Hi Ben and Thiago,
Thank you for your well considered suggestions on accommodating anchor
points in returned pages. I've stored them away for possible future
use. I wound up solving the original problem in a rather different way,
using a RequireJS module.
Background: My web application has
Hi,
Quick question: Tapestry is flexible when it comes to return types for
page navigation. "When a string is returned, it is expected to be the
logical name of a page." Although I've not tried it, presumably this
means the likes of "Index#footer" isn't possible for navigating to a
particul
Thank you, Charles and Ben, for the helpful pointers and code snippets!
You've both implemented StreamResponse in a nice and versatile way, and
I will now tailor something similar for my needs.
Thanks & regards,
Chris
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Hi all,
Inserting a simple type link in
a Tapestry template so visitors can download a PDF is straightforward
enough.
I'd like to shift this to inside the controller, however, so that some
code for analytical purposes can be added.
A quick Google search revealed the code example below, fr
Hi all,
I've built a new home page for an existing site, and this includes a
simple contact form in the footer. When the page loads the browser
automatically scrolls down to this form, with cursor in the first field.
This obviously isn't desirable.
Plain HTML forms don't normally invoke th
Hi Ben,
You were 100% correct! Adding the below dependencies to my POM fixed
the issue.
I really appreciate the quick response you gave.
Perhaps Thiago or Bob might like to make mention of this on the Tapestry
Upgrade page?
com.sun.xml.bind
Hi team,
I have moved to upgrade a Tapestry webapp from version 5.4.3 to version
5.6.4, after first checking the page below for known compatibility
issues.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TAPESTRY/Supported+Environments+and+Versions
Reportedly, Tapestry 5.6.4 is compatible with..
Thanks, Thiago, for confirming that.
And I'm glad to hear news of Tapestry 5.6.1 release. Good work!
Regards,
Chris.
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Hi all, just a quick question...
Once a Tapestry service implementation gets instantiated, and that
service's status moves to "realised", at what point does that
implementation get destroyed?
Tapestry instantiates a service implementation the first time a service
method gets called, and I'm
Hi Thiago,
A couple of years' ago I extended Tapestry's AbstractField to create a
DateTimeField, as DateField's standard JavaScript calendar looks a
little dated (pardon the pun). DateTimeField leverages the HTML5
datetime-local input type, and one of its parameters is 'boolean
readOnly'. I
Thanks Thiago.
I guess it's something worth considering in the future - updating
BeanEditor and related components to better leverage HTML5 features.
A workaround in my case was to have SelectModelFactory reduce the number
of selectable elements down to one, making selecting something differe
Hi all,
I'm just wondering whether there is a simple and elegant way of making
certain BeanEditForm fields 'read only' within the controller class,
rather than in the view template? In certain circumstances I wish to
dynamically prevent users from modifying certain fields (a pretty common
sc
I'm much looking forward to Tapestry 5.5's pending release.
Regarding glyphicons, I recall not being able to get these displaying
even with a Tapestry app built extending the quickstart project
(bootstrap 3). So the date pickers are iconless, palette arrows absent,
etcetera (I need to revisit
Hi Geoff,
I'm in the final stages of developing a webapp which uses the WebSocket
API for asynchronous, two-way communication. Not sure if WebSocket is the
way you want to go? Message packets are objects encoded into JSON format
using Jason.
The server endpoint is a Tapestry service (singleton)
Hi Thiago,
Indeed, if I want to provide endpoints as a Tapestry-IoC service,
singleton may be the only option. Running as a 'per thread' service,
connections are successfully established, but subsequent method calls on
the connection by Tomcat - like to @OnError and/or @OnClose - results in
the r
Update: it seems that option #1 is off the table.
>From the Java WebSockets specification:
4.1
@ServerEndpoint
"This class level annotation signifies that the Java class it decorates
must be deployed by the implementation as a websocket server endpoint and
made available in the URI-space of the w
If option #1 works, it could be the ideal solution. I've only ever seen
WebSocket annotations on a POJO, never an interface. Not to say it can't
be done.
I was about to attempt an 'option #3': do away with the custom
Configurator (allowing Tomcat to instantiate endpoints), with endpoints
getting
Hi Thiago,
>> Why is it even referencing HarbourServerEndpointImpl? This, the service
>> implementation class, should only be referenced in AppModule (or other
>> Tapestry-IoC module) when declaring the service and maybe also when making
>> unit tests. Everything else should use HarbourServerEndpo
By the way, the @ServerEndpoint and @OnOpen and other WebSocket
annotations are on the implementation class, not the interface. Perhaps
this is not right when providing endpoints as a Tapestry-IoC service?
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By creating a ServletContextListener that sets a static ServletContext
variable in a RegistryProxy class I created, I now have access to the
Tapestry-IoC registry from anywhere in the application. So the internal
wiring ought to be in place now.
However, when I use my custom endpoint Configurator
Hi Thiago,
No, not solved yet. Was still exploring options, for instance overriding
TapestryFilter.init(Registry). Sorry if I wasn't clear.
I'm about to create a ServletContextListener in my app, so I can get
access to the ServletContext, and consequently the Registry, on app
initialisation.
T
Hi Thiago,
I discovered a mailing-list post, from around 9 years ago, where you
advised someone to override the TapestryFilter.init(Registry registry)
method to save the registry to a static field.
Ideally, I'd like to invoke the static method of a standalone class to
access the registry and its
Thank you very much for responding Thiago.
You write: "I'm afraid you're wrong about why the problem is happening.
Tapestry-IoC is the one actually taking care of services and it knows
nothing about ignored paths, which are a Tapestry(-core, the webapp)
thing. The problem is that your endpoint doe
And here, another version of custom configurator, where Jersey is the CDI
implementation.
public class CdiAwareConfigurator extends ServerEndpointConfig.Configurator {
public T getEndpointInstance(Class endpointClass) throws
InstantiationException {
return CDI.current().select(endpo
I found a thread where someone else was grappling with this same issue,
but in his case the IoC framework was Google Guice.
http://tomcat.10.x6.nabble.com/ServerEndpoint-Guice-td5007388.html
Summarising his solution:
Create a custom WebSocket endpoint configurator class...
public class Ws
Hi team,
I've implemented a WebSocket server endpoint inside a Tapestry application
by placing its class inside the 'services' folder, and adding its path to
'contributeIgnoredPathsFilter()' as below.
public static void contributeIgnoredPathsFilter(Configuration
configuration) {
confi
Thanks Lance, those two libraries look very interesting!
For now I've successfully implemented Tyrus 'stand-alone' (Grizzly) on my
desktop clent application, and this connects to my Tapestry app via
Tomcat. However, in the future I would also like to PUSH server-side
state changes out to a dashbo
A simple solution in the end, a retweaking of the 'IgnoredPathsFilter'...
public static void contributeIgnoredPathsFilter(Configuration
configuration) {
configuration.add("/websocket/.*");
}
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Hi team,
Just wondering whether anyone has successfully implemented a serverside
WebSocket endpoint as a Tapestry service? The beauty of implementing it
as a Tapestry service is that I could then easily PUSH messages out from
other parts of the program, via the injected service.
The client is no
Hi all,
"A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing
left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." - Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry.
Winsome words from a once French aviator. Perfecting Tapestry is unlikely
to be a simple matter of just culling code. Still, it s
Good team effort! It's encouraging to see Tapestry progressing in step
with associated technologies: Java 12 is due out in March, and Hibernate
currently at version 5.3.3.
Tapestry 5 was a leap forward from 4. Where does the community see
Tapestry 6 at on the Java web landscape? A free and fran
Hi all,
Thanks for the pointers. In the end I switched to AjaxResponseRenderer
rather than returning the zone's body, and all seems to work well. I'm
not sure why I didn't do it this way to begin with. You can see the old
line of code now commented out.
public void onFilter(){
expa
Hi Thiago,
Yes, I'll certainly use your Html5DateField wherever I can, in preference
to the WebFX based DateField component, whenever just a date is required.
Good effort!
Indeed, datetime-local is not yet widely implemented in desktop browsers
(seems to work fine in Chrome and Edge, but not IE
Hi all,
I had mistakenly thought that any event handler method could render a
response through return type, whereas seemingly this is unique to events
triggered by Tapestry's actionlink, eventlink and form components.
I developed a filter pane component for limiting the number and (date)
range of
Hi Thiago,
Great, I'll take a look. Meanwhile, because of working to a deadline,
last weekend I developed my own, and was just about to offer it to the
Tapestry community. But maybe there's no need now?
I based it on HTML 5 datetime-local. The various browser implementations
of this element ar
On second thoughts, producing a new DateTimeField component is probably
wiser.
I'm impressed by the HTML5 "datetime-local" input type. Browsers that
don't support it should gracefully degrade to plain textfield.
A DateTimeField component based on this HTML5 element would be lighter
weight than t
Thanks Chris.
What puzzled me about the absent closing tag is that it appears
in the first example above, but not the second. Yet this markup is
generated by the same DateField component (line 276 to be precise:
"writer.end()").
I searched the web for alternative 'date pickers'. Bootstrap prov
Just a few short questions to help progress with problem solving.
1) Is there any known reason why DateField's WebFX DatePicker wouldn't
work within an embedded Tapestry component? I've had no problem with it
working directly in a Tapestry page. Don't want to be flogging a dead
horse here. :-)
Making some headway...
The base page is "Dashboard", which contains 10 panel components (each
having its own zone). Three of these panels require a "FilterPane" for
limiting the number of records displayed (again, this filter pane has its
own zone). This pane contains a form, and this form conta
>> I imagine others are using the existing DateField with success, whether
>> inside or outside of zones. Assuming the DatePicker javascript is using
>> AJAX to invoke a zone refresh, is there perhaps a way of disabling this
>> without meddling with the code? I had thought that without "async=tru
That sounds promising Thiago. Does your component support time also, or
just date (you mentioned -mm-dd is hardcoded)?
I imagine others are using the existing DateField with success, whether
inside or outside of zones. Assuming the DatePicker javascript is using
AJAX to invoke a zone refresh
Hi all,
I've successfully been using the datefield component within a number of
tapestry pages. But now that I've embedded a datefield within a custom
component that is nested within a zone, the datepicker isn't working as it
should. When the datepicker is used to select a certain date, the zone
Hi all,
I only started with Tapestry, seriously, around 18 months ago. Tapestry
may not be the latest fashion, but I love its convention over
configuration approach, use of POJOs, and the myriad other elegant
features that keep web application development fun and rewarding.
I guess technical ele
Hi Tapestry Team,
I have a small problem with Tapestry's palette and datefield components.
I downloaded Tapestry some months ago, using Maven. The QuickStart hotel
demo release, as I recall. Anyway, the application I've gone on to
develop since then makes frequent use of both the datefield and
Thanks Chris & JumpStart, with your help I was able to get this CSS
animation working, using JavaScriptSupport in combination with RequireJS.
Below is the code, for anyone else wishing to do the same.
**The CSS**
.open-section{
transition:0s;
transform: rotate(90deg);
}
.close-section{
After exploring a little further, I discovered the below thread on
invoking javascript from within Tapestry.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/27988473/pass-parameter-from-java-to-js-in-tapestry
Joost writes:
You will need to use the JavaScriptSupport service.
Your java file:
@Import(library
Thanks Chung and Chris.
I doubt using .click() will work, as the button being clicked on is
immediately replaced, and it is this new button that must rotate. The
buttons are for expanding and collpasing sections of a webpage. Once a
user clicks on an expand button, it is immediately replaced wit
Hi all,
I suspect there's a simple solution to this small, but annoying problem.
My Tapestry page uses a simple javascript to rotate an image 90 degrees
the moment the image is rendered on screen. It does this by adding a CSS
class to the button element that contains the image.
**The JavaScrip
Hi Eugen,
Thank you for explaining so well. I had been considering running a
standalone WebSocket server to avoid being tied to Tomcat in particular,
but, after further thought, think I'll take your advice and keep it
simple. :-)
Here is a recording of the client app running in demo mode:
www.h
I like the look of the WebSocket library below:
https://github.com/TooTallNate/Java-WebSocket
It is 100% Java, and includes example code for both server and client.
Also, it supports multi-threading 'out of the box'.
If I were to use this library's server code, placed in the Tapestry
'services'
Hi Carlos,
Thanks for detailing how you implemented a WebSocket using an external
HttpServlet. I'm sure it works well for you. However, since it seems
possible to implement a WebSocket right inside a Tapestry app, I will
attempt to do it this way first. It keeps everything self-contained and
ti
Hi Eugen,
I like the look of the WebSocket library you shared:
https://github.com/TooTallNate/Java-WebSocket. It is 100% Java, and
includes example code for both server and client. Also it supports
multi-threading 'out of the box'.
So, if inside my Tapestry project's 'services' directory I crea
Thanks Eugen, and where did you place the server-side class decorated with
@ServerEndpoint("/ws")? Perhaps it doesn't matter whether it is placed in
'pages' or 'services', as Tomcat finds it regardless.
Is it necessary to invoke new threads (multi-threading) within each of the
methods decorated w
Hi team,
I'm in the final stages of developing a Tapestry webapp for a
multi-contractor worksite. Most user interactions will be via webpage
forms, with state displayed on a dashboard page, involving mostly text
(though done attractively).
To support this application I've also developed a small
Hi team,
Just a quick question: When using Tapestry's SelectModel to create a drop
down list of String options, is it possible to enforce this at the 'model'
tier through the use of an annotation?
With Java enumerations this is possible:
@Enumerated(EnumType.STRING)
private String countr
Mystery solved!
My original suspicion was correct in that somewhere the app was attemting
to update the database before or while onValidate() was doing it's thing.
It wasn't BeanEditForm however, it was Hibernate jumping in the way. Part
of the stack trace:
org.hibernate.event.internal.DefaultA
And when using the literal "Abel", as below...
User userVerif =
crudServiceDAO.findUniqueWithNamedQuery(User.BY_USERNAME,
QueryParameters.with("userName", "Abel").parameters());
LOG.debug("Verify user: [" + userVerif.getUserName() + "|" +
userVerif.getFirstName() + "|" + userVerif.
Hi Geoff,
I'm not sure whether this is what you meant, but I added the below code to
my onActivate() method:
User userVerif =
crudServiceDAO.findUniqueWithNamedQuery(User.BY_USERNAME,
QueryParameters.with("userName",
user.getUserName()).parameters());
LOG.debug("Verify user: [" +
Hi Geoff,
Sorry, I'll try that when back at my PC tomorrow.
I could be mistaken, but does the 'column' annotation below not set the
USER_NAME column in the database as unique? I assumed this is the reason
for the ConstraintViolationException, i.e. the unique field.
Irrespective, I'll do as you
To summarise...
the exceptions:
org.hibernate.exception.ConstraintViolationException
could not execute statement
SQL
n/a
SQLState
23000
errorCode
1062
and:
java.sql.SQLIntegrityConstraintViolationException
Duplicate entry 'Abel' for key 'UK
Below is a snippet of my User entity class, where the NamedQueries are
also located.
Based on your responses, it seems that I'm correct that UpdateUser.java
oughtn't be persisting anything for NamedQuery to discover until the line
"crudServiceDAO.update(user)" is reached in onSuccessFromUpdateForm
directly compare the user name strings instead
> of comparing the User objects?
>
>
> On Jan 13, 2018 4:01 AM, "Christopher Dodunski" <
> chrisfromtapes...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>
> The database contains these two users:
>
> User name: Abel
> First name
The database contains these two users:
User name: Abel
First name: Abel
Last name: Tasman
etc.
User name: James
First name: James
Last name: Cook
etc.
As a test I load user 'James' into the BeanEditForm of UpdateUser.java,
and attempt to change his user name to 'Abel' (an illegal change). This
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Hi there,
Below is my onValidate() method of a BeanEditForm for updating a user's
profile, where I simply check that a user isn't changing his username to
an already taken username. The error output (below it) suggests that
BeanEditForm is committing the change to the database even before
onValid
Hi Chris & Bob,
Thanks, yes, it's all part of the learning process. :-) Now that I know
that Tapestry ActionLink and EventLink only emit tags, I'll in future
style all my buttons as a.xxx rather than input.xxx (style.css).
I had wrongly assumed that Tapestry left the HTML markup as is, parsing
ot; components so it
> could be plausible, but I do not have the sources handy on this machine to
> check).
>
> I guess you could make a plain HTML button that delegates its clicks to a
> hidden link using Javascript, if you cannot fix your CSS, but it feels
> like
> a hack c
This problem has proved trickier to solve than expected.
The below tag produces a displayed button, but obviously without any
functionality, as the tag contains no Tapestry-specific elements.
The problem comes on adding Tapestry markup, with the intention of
invoking a deleteUser() method in th
Thanks Geoff. Are you in Aus? Greetings from NZ.
Your tag...
...looks like it should do the trick. I assume that the t:context
parameter is optional, in this case just for passing onNextPage() a
literal string as argument?
Also, to keep the website designers happy, it might be preferable to
Concerning use of the button HTML tag, I read the following...
"Definition and Usage
The tag defines a clickable button.
Inside a element you can put content, like text or images. This
is the difference between this element and buttons created with the
element.
Tip: Always specify the type a
Oh, I thought I had tried that but the button didn't render. Hence my post.
Nevermind, I'll try it again in case the problem was elsewhere.
If ActionLink and Eventlink indeed accept 'class' parameter, it should go
easily.
Thanks,
Chris.
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Hi all,
The Tapestry 'submit' component allows use of buttons defined in CSS by
way of the 'class' parameter. This is perfect for form buttons. But now
I want to use these same CSS buttons outside of forms. The natural choice
is Tapestry's ActionLink or EventLink component. But these component
ttps://github.com/apache/tapestry-5/blob/master/tapestry-core/src/main/resources/org/apache/tapestry5/corelib/components/BeanEditForm.tml
>
> Kalle
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Christopher Dodunski <
> chrisfromtapes...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
&
Hi,
I would simply like to override Tapestry's BeanEditForm default submit
button. I've searched the internet but not found example code to achieve
this. Below is my template code, which is for a BeanEditForm component
with two added fields. The submit tag is not having the desired effect.
Of
Hi team,
I suspect you'll be able to answer this right off the top of your head, as
this error occurs in response to what I imagine is a very routine code
assignment: set a newly created user's company to be the same company as
that of the user doing the creating.
Code snippet from 'pages/user/C
Hi Kalle,
Thank you for explaining what Tynamo Model has to offer. It certainly
looks interesting, and promises to save much time in creating CRUD heavy
apps in Tapestry. I'll give it a go on my next webapp.
For now, I think I'll simply inspect the user's permissions in the
onActivate() method
create company button
}
Regards,
Chris.
> http://www.tynamo.org/tapestry-security+guide/
>
> https://tapestry.apache.org/security.html
>
> Le 26/11/2017 à 05:16, Christopher Dodunski a écrit :
>> Hi All,
>>
>> The Tapestry Hotel demo app has proven a good less
Hi All,
The Tapestry Hotel demo app has proven a good lesson in implementing
AUTHENTICATION. Having developed a multi-user Tapestry app, I now need to
implement AUTHORISATION, but the Hotel demo app is aimed at just one user
type: visitors.
I created a role table in my Tapestry application (scre
Thank you for your help. I corrected those two oversights, and got the
class working successfully by changing the onActivate() parameter from
byte[] to 'User' (code below). The image now displays, but I wonder if
when passing a 'User' object Tapestry passes just the id as reference
(using Tapestr
Hi all,
I am having a little difficulty with what I imagine is a very common use
case: displaying a user's profile image alongside their personal details
following successful login. Displaying the JavaBean strings served up by
Hibernate is easy. Just displaying the database Blob (stored as a byt
Thanks Svein. I noticed you are using IntelliJ, like me. Can I ask how
you configured IntelliJ to use the 2.4 plugin instead either of the two it
comes bundled with? I like to do everything from the IDE rather than
'mvn' from the command line. Thanks!
> Hi all,
>
> I am a first time user of T
Hi all,
I am a first time user of Tapestry, and am attempting to build the
Tapestry QuickStart project. My IDE comes bundled with two versions of
Maven, but both fail to build the project (see below for the output of
both).
I read on the Tapestry website the recommendation to use Maven 2.4, whic
"It would be much longer though, so I wasn't sure if people would
actually watch it."
I would!! I'm currently learning Tapestry, and it wouldn't bother me in
the least if your tutorial took thirty minutes to play. Provided it
covered important key concepts (e.g. Tapestry form -> Hibernate ->
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