Re: DNSBLs and cache hit rate (was Re: Must-Have Plugins?)

2015-06-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.06.2015 um 03:33 schrieb Dianne Skoll: On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 01:00:45 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: cache-min-ttl: 600 Even a 10-minute cache time buys you very little. My original analysis assumed a 15-minute TTL calling 32% cache hits on a single day "very little" is questionable

Re: Must-Have Plugins?

2015-06-11 Thread David Jones
given that install unbound as local resolver takes 2 minutes it's even not worth to argue on that topic and a spamfilter without RBL's and URIBL's is just nonsense >> >>>I have installed a caching DNS server before (albeit probably about 15 >>>years ago). But it just shouldn't be nec

Re: SA running different tests when run manually ?

2015-06-11 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 6/11/2015 2:57 AM, Ben wrote: amavisd uses the spamassassin libraries internally, it does not use the spamassassin command, nor spamd. If you update parts of the config, you'll need to reload/restart amavisd. Aah... I must have missed that bit of the fabulous manual... ;-( If you are ru

Caching nameserver vs. resolver library (was Re: Must-Have Plugins?)

2015-06-11 Thread Dianne Skoll
[I have lost the attribution, but someone wrote:] > >That's not what I'm saying. It should not be necessary to run a > >full-blown DNS server for SA to do it's queries. It should be > >possible to call a library and create a DNS context that has all of > >it's own parameters and then use that in a

Re: Must-Have Plugins?

2015-06-11 Thread RW
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:45:10 -0400 Michael B Allen wrote: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:56 AM, David Jones wrote: > >>> given that install unbound as local resolver takes 2 minutes it's > >>> even not worth to argue on that topic and a spamfilter without > >>> RBL's and URIBL's is just nonsense > >

Re: DCC whitelisting

2015-06-11 Thread shanew
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015, John Hardin wrote: On Wed, 10 Jun 2015, Shane Williams wrote: Two examples that I know are legitimate senders, but get caught by DCC (and pyzor in some cases) and other rules that push them over the threshold are the SourceForge.net Project of the Month list and variou

Re: DCC whitelisting

2015-06-11 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015, sha...@shanew.net wrote: On Wed, 10 Jun 2015, John Hardin wrote: On Wed, 10 Jun 2015, Shane Williams wrote: > Two examples that I know are legitimate senders, but get caught by DCC > (and pyzor in some cases) and other rules that push them over the > threshold are

Re: DCC whitelisting

2015-06-11 Thread David Jones
>> On Wed, 10 Jun 2015, Shane Williams wrote: >> >>> Two examples that I know are legitimate senders, but get caught by DCC >>> (and pyzor in some cases) and other rules that push them over the >>> threshold are the SourceForge.net Project of the Month list and >>> various Netflix emails to cus

Re: DCC whitelisting

2015-06-11 Thread Jeff Mincy
From: sha...@shanew.net Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:02:59 -0500 (CDT) On Wed, 10 Jun 2015, John Hardin wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jun 2015, Shane Williams wrote: > >> Two examples that I know are legitimate senders, but get caught by DCC >> (and pyzor in some cases) and other

Re: Must-Have Plugins?

2015-06-11 Thread Michael B Allen
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:03 AM, RW wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:45:10 -0400 > Michael B Allen wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:56 AM, David Jones wrote: >> >>> given that install unbound as local resolver takes 2 minutes it's >> >>> even not worth to argue on that topic and a spamfilter

Re: Must-Have Plugins?

2015-06-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.06.2015 um 19:28 schrieb Michael B Allen: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:03 AM, RW wrote: You don't need a full-blown DNS server, you just need a resolver which is typically ~ 100kB plus whatever space you want for caching. Mine is currently using 9MB of resident memory compared with 103MB

Re: DNSBLs and cache hit rate (was Re: Must-Have Plugins?)

2015-06-11 Thread Noel Butler
On 11/06/2015 00:18, Dianne Skoll wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:56:49 + > David Jones wrote: > > [One should run a caching DNS server on a mail server.] > >> We are giving you solid advice based on real experiences where we >> ran into problems and worked around them. Just try to enab

Re: Must-Have Plugins?

2015-06-11 Thread Bill Cole
On 10 Jun 2015, at 10:55, Alex Regan wrote: Hi, Not everyone is running a dedicated mail server. My server is an everything-server running on a hosted VPS that only has a few "users" that get significant amounts of email. I'm not sure I want another daemon that can break or take up clock cyc

Re: DNSBLs and cache hit rate (was Re: Must-Have Plugins?)

2015-06-11 Thread Bill Cole
On 10 Jun 2015, at 10:26, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 6/10/2015 10:18 AM, Dianne Skoll wrote: I'm not disputing that running a caching DNS server is a good idea, but you may be quite surprised at the low cache hit rate for IP-based DNSBLs. IMO, the primary goal of a caching-only nameserver is i