Re: spam warning from zd net

2005-02-05 Thread David Brodbeck
Kenneth Porter wrote: There can't be, because the password must be recovered to submit to the remote authentication system. Paul Russell suggests on the MIMEDefang list that the ratware could simply pop up a password dialog. Many users will just enter their credentials, not understanding why th

RE: spam warning from zd net

2005-02-03 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Thursday, February 03, 2005 1:43 PM -0500 Rob McEwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Even though that may be correct in theory, isn't there one-way encryption involved for these passwords? (you know, the kind which can't be retrieved by anyone, only reset). But even if that is not the case, regul

RE: spam warning from zd net

2005-02-03 Thread Rob McEwen
Kenneth Porter said: >If you know how the password is stored, you don't even need to launch >Outlook to actually connect to the ISP server. The same vulnerability would >also work with Thunderbird; you'd just need to know how to extract the >saved password from the Mozilla profile. Even though

RE: spam warning from zd net

2005-02-03 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Wednesday, February 02, 2005 9:38 PM -0500 Rob McEwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I couldn't tell from the article... but are SMTP Servers which REQUIRE password authentication for sending immune from this particular type of spam? Or does the system somehow route the spam through a person's o

Re: spam warning from zd net

2005-02-03 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:49 AM 2/3/2005, Jeff Chan wrote: > The only problem I see with the tactic is the ISP itself is likely to deal > with the infected users pretty quickly, instead of dragging their feet, > since the spam will now be bogging down their servers, instead of bypassing > them. And the answer is: s

RE: spam warning from zd net

2005-02-03 Thread Rob McEwen
One area where this might cause additional problems (even for those who successfully block ALL these spams) is tarpitting settings. Basically, many servers will place the IP address of the sending server into a tarpit if that server just got finished attempting to send X number of viruses or spams

Re: spam warning from zd net

2005-02-03 Thread Jeff Chan
On Wednesday, February 2, 2005, 6:20:50 PM, Matt Kettler wrote: > At 09:11 PM 2/2/2005, Shane Mullins wrote: >>Here is a link from ZDNet warning of a spam increase. I can't wait to see >>SA smat it down. > Hmm.. so zombies are going to start using the legit mailserver instead of > acting as a d

Re: spam warning from zd net

2005-02-03 Thread Shane Mullins
Sounds like the pc's will act like a smtp server. But they were very vague. Shane - Original Message - From: "Rob McEwen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 9:38 PM Subject: RE: spam warning from zd net I couldn't tell from the artic

Re: spam warning from zd net

2005-02-03 Thread Justin Mason
he Swen virus, however, did -- it just wasn't a generic spam proxy. - --j. > Rob McEwen > > -Original Message- > From: Shane Mullins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 9:11 PM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: spam warn

RE: spam warning from zd net

2005-02-03 Thread Rob McEwen
oo bad the article wasn't more technically specific) Rob McEwen -Original Message- From: Shane Mullins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 9:11 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: spam warning from zd net Here is a link from ZDNet warning of a sp

Re: spam warning from zd net

2005-02-03 Thread Jason Frisvold
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 21:20:50 -0500, Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmm.. so zombies are going to start using the legit mailserver instead of > acting as a direct delivery... Hmm.. Well, we should see the DUL RBL hits > drop off pretty fast. Won't affect SURBL hits though. Or see legit m

Re: spam warning from zd net

2005-02-03 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matt Kettler writes: > At 09:11 PM 2/2/2005, Shane Mullins wrote: > >Here is a link from ZDNet warning of a spam increase. I can't wait to > >see SA smat it down. > > Hmm.. so zombies are going to start using the legit mailserver instead > of acting

Re: spam warning from zd net

2005-02-03 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:11 PM 2/2/2005, Shane Mullins wrote: Here is a link from ZDNet warning of a spam increase. I can't wait to see SA smat it down. Hmm.. so zombies are going to start using the legit mailserver instead of acting as a direct delivery... Hmm.. Well, we should see the DUL RBL hits drop off pre

spam warning from zd net

2005-02-03 Thread Shane Mullins
Here is a link from ZDNet warning of a spam increase.  I can't wait to see SA smat it down.      http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5560664.html?tag=nl.e589   Shane