RE: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-03 Thread Robert - elists
> > no, you do not do that. See the clamav-milter or other apropriate program. > SA is very CPU intensive so it's better to scan with clamav directly, > instead of using SA clamav plugin Matus... You are smart person. Maybe you could tell the clamav plugin people... ;-) Actually, yes, we do

Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-03 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 03.07.08 11:04, Starckjohann, Ove wrote: > it was NOT us, who was scoring with CLAMAV - it was Chris > (see first respone to my initial question). Oh, I see, sorry... > We're using SA as "one under many" tests which the > smtp-proxy performs during the smtp-communication. > virus-check is d

Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-03 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> Matus UHLAR - fantomas writes: > > > > one does need to score viruses in SA if (s)he can reject them directly > > > > On 02.07.08 09:27, Robert - elists wrote: > > > Yes, we do that. > > > > > > See the SA clamav plugin > > > > no, you do not do that. See the clamav-milter or other apropriate

AW: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-03 Thread Starckjohann, Ove
ve Starckjohann > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Matus UHLAR - fantomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 15:30 > An: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Betreff: Re: i'm unable to catch these > > > > > > But pls tell me: how ma

Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-03 Thread Justin Mason
Matus UHLAR - fantomas writes: > > > one does need to score viruses in SA if (s)he can reject them directly > > On 02.07.08 09:27, Robert - elists wrote: > > Yes, we do that. > > > > See the SA clamav plugin > > no, you do not do that. See the clamav-milter or other apropriate program. > SA is

Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> > one does need to score viruses in SA if (s)he can reject them directly On 02.07.08 09:27, Robert - elists wrote: > Yes, we do that. > > See the SA clamav plugin no, you do not do that. See the clamav-milter or other apropriate program. SA is very CPU intensive so it's better to scan with cla

RE: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Robert - elists
> > one does need to score viruses in SA if (s)he can reject them directly > -- Yes, we do that. See the SA clamav plugin - rh

Re: AW: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Jonas Eckerman
Starckjohann, Ove wrote: Received: from n75.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([10.10.10.21]) by EXCHANGE02.norddeutsche.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:58:44 +0200 10.10.10.21 is MY address. It's a smtp-PROXY which passes through the smtp-connection to EXCHANG

Re: AW: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Arvid Ephraim Picciani
On Wednesday 02 July 2008 16:34:12 SM wrote: > At 05:23 02-07-2008, Starckjohann, Ove wrote: > >10.10.10.21 is MY address. It's a smtp-PROXY which passes through > >the smtp-connection to EXCHANGE02. > > Network tests on the message headers will be ineffective. > that was my worry. With the defaul

Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> > you seem not to reject viruses at SMTP level ;) otherwise clamav couldn't > > score them :) On 02.07.08 08:13, Robert - elists wrote: > One can score an email and still reject during the SMTP session if the > systems are setup to do so. one does need to score viruses in SA if (s)he can reject

RE: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Robert - elists
> > you seem not to reject viruses at SMTP level ;) otherwise clamav couldn't > score them :) > One can score an email and still reject during the SMTP session if the systems are setup to do so. - rh

Re: AW: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> At 05:23 02-07-2008, Starckjohann, Ove wrote: > >10.10.10.21 is MY address. It's a smtp-PROXY which passes through > >the smtp-connection to EXCHANGE02. On 02.07.08 07:34, SM wrote: > Network tests on the message headers will be ineffective. not if the 10.10.10.21 is in trusted_networks and in

Re: AW: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread SM
At 05:23 02-07-2008, Starckjohann, Ove wrote: 10.10.10.21 is MY address. It's a smtp-PROXY which passes through the smtp-connection to EXCHANGE02. Network tests on the message headers will be ineffective. Regards, -sm

Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Jonas Eckerman
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: we DO reject at smtp-level if we are sure that the mail is spam. you seem not to reject viruses at SMTP level ;) otherwise clamav couldn't score them :) Or 1: they may use SpamAssassin during SMTP conversations in order to reject at SMTP level based on SpamAss

Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> > > But pls tell me: how may CLAMAV score with 10 points ? > > > where is the "virus" ??? > > > > virus, phish, PUA or false-positive. I recommend reject them > > as SMTP level, not in SA plugin, if possible On 02.07.08 15:25, Starckjohann, Ove wrote: > we DO reject at smtp-level if we are sur

AW: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Starckjohann, Ove
> > But pls tell me: how may CLAMAV score with 10 points ? > > where is the "virus" ??? > > virus, phish, PUA or false-positive. I recommend reject them > as SMTP level, not in SA plugin, if possible we DO reject at smtp-level if we are sure that the mail is spam. Our smtp-proxy is doing own te

Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 02.07.08 14:58, Starckjohann, Ove wrote: please configura your mail client to wrap lines below 80 characters per linx. 72 to 76 is good. > i added L_UNVERIFIED_YAHOO and GEO_QUERY_STRING to my rules, as i'm still > using SA_3.17...so maybe those rules are only embedded into the 3.2x'er > SA.

Re: AW: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Stefan Hornburg
Starckjohann, Ove wrote: nice .-) i added L_UNVERIFIED_YAHOO and GEO_QUERY_STRING to my rules, as i'm still using SA_3.17...so maybe those rules are only embedded into the 3.2x'er SA. But pls tell me: how may CLAMAV score with 10 points ? where is the "virus" ??? This is probably ClamAV wit

AW: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Starckjohann, Ove
he Nachricht- > Von: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 13:29 > An: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Betreff: Re: i'm unable to catch these > > > On Wednesday 02 July 2008 4:08 am, Starckjohann, Ove wrote: > > Hello! > > > &g

AW: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Starckjohann, Ove
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: McDonald, Dan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 14:00 > An: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Betreff: Re: i'm unable to catch these > > > On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 13:40 +0200, Arvid Ephraim Picciani w

Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 13:40 +0200, Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: > >Received: from n75.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([10.10.10.21]) by > >EXCHANGE02.norddeutsche.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); > > Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:58:44 +0200 > > huh? what's that weird IP doing there? yahoo trans

Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Duane Hill
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: Received: from n75.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([10.10.10.21]) by EXCHANGE02.norddeutsche.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:58:44 +0200 huh? what's that weird IP doing there? It's a version.

Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Arvid Ephraim Picciani
>Received: from n75.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([10.10.10.21]) by >EXCHANGE02.norddeutsche.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); >Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:58:44 +0200 huh? what's that weird IP doing there? -- best regards Arvid Ephraim Picciani

Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread mouss
Starckjohann, Ove wrote: Hello! during the last days i do get the following mails and i'm unable to catch/score them http://www.norddeutsche.de/temp/20080630185844296.eml.txt Content analysis details: (9.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---

Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Chris
On Wednesday 02 July 2008 4:08 am, Starckjohann, Ove wrote: > Hello! > > during the last days i do get the following mails and i'm unable to > catch/score them > > http://www.norddeutsche.de/temp/20080630185844296.eml.txt > http://www.norddeutsche.de/temp/20080701190353407.eml.txt > > Any tips/

i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Starckjohann, Ove
Hello! during the last days i do get the following mails and i'm unable to catch/score them http://www.norddeutsche.de/temp/20080630185844296.eml.txt http://www.norddeutsche.de/temp/20080701190353407.eml.txt Any tips/hints how to score them ? Ove Starckjohann