Re: Valid TLDs

2014-09-09 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 11:10 +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > On Tuesday 09 September 2014 at 11:04:04 (EU time), Martin Gregorie wrote: > > > I use Fedora, which is roughly equivalent to Debian unstable, i.e. fairly > > cutting edge as its the next step back toward stability from 'testing'. > > Hm, t

Re: Valid TLDs

2014-09-09 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 09 September 2014 at 11:04:04 (EU time), Martin Gregorie wrote: > I use Fedora, which is roughly equivalent to Debian unstable, i.e. fairly > cutting edge as its the next step back toward stability from 'testing'. Hm, that's not quite the right way round - "testing" is the step in betw

Re: Valid TLDs

2014-09-09 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 10:41 +0200, Axb wrote: > On 09/09/2014 10:27 AM, Martin Gregorie wrote: > > On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 23:05 -0600, Amir Caspi wrote: > >> An automated method would prevent a number of problems, and since the > >> allowed TLDs are evolving, I think it makes the most sense. I can't

Re: Valid TLDs

2014-09-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.09.2014 um 03:45 schrieb Karsten Bräckelmann: > This incidence is part of the initial round of IANA accepting generic > TLDs. There's hundreds in this wave, and some are abused early. This is > moonshine registration, nothing like new TLDs being accepted in the > coming years. > > Or is it?

Re: Valid TLDs

2014-09-09 Thread Axb
On 09/09/2014 10:27 AM, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 23:05 -0600, Amir Caspi wrote: An automated method would prevent a number of problems, and since the allowed TLDs are evolving, I think it makes the most sense. I can't speak to a specific implementation, but -something- automa

Re: Valid TLDs (was: Re: Custom rule not hitting suddenly?)

2014-09-09 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 23:05 -0600, Amir Caspi wrote: > An automated method would prevent a number of problems, and since the > allowed TLDs are evolving, I think it makes the most sense. I can't > speak to a specific implementation, but -something- automated... > Same here: I pick up new SA versio

Re: Valid TLDs

2014-09-08 Thread Henrik K
On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 07:10:34AM +0200, Axb wrote: > On 09/09/2014 07:04 AM, Henrik K wrote: > >On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 03:45:33AM +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > >> > >>There is one down side: A new dependency on Regexp::List [1]. The RE > >>pre-compile one-time upstart penalty should be neg

Re: Valid TLDs

2014-09-08 Thread Axb
On 09/09/2014 07:04 AM, Henrik K wrote: On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 03:45:33AM +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: There is one down side: A new dependency on Regexp::List [1]. The RE pre-compile one-time upstart penalty should be negligible. [1] Well, or a really, really f*cking ugly option that ta

Re: Valid TLDs (was: Re: Custom rule not hitting suddenly?)

2014-09-08 Thread Amir Caspi
On Sep 8, 2014, at 7:45 PM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > > Opinions? Discussion in here, or should I move this to dev? Given that TLDs can and do change on a timescale more frequent than many people update their version of SA (myself included), I would vote for a method that treats this as a c

Re: Valid TLDs (was: Re: Custom rule not hitting suddenly?)

2014-09-08 Thread Henrik K
On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 03:45:33AM +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > > There is one down side: A new dependency on Regexp::List [1]. The RE > pre-compile one-time upstart penalty should be negligible. > > [1] Well, or a really, really f*cking ugly option that takes a > pre-optimzed qr// blo

Re: Valid TLDs (was: Re: Custom rule not hitting suddenly?)

2014-09-08 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 9. sep. 2014 04.29.55 Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: Apart from that nitpick, I understand you would be in favor of a Valid TLD option, rather than hard-coded. Noted. Perl programmer make there signature in perl code Well i still thinking about url reputation, but since nearly all kind of si

Re: Valid TLDs (was: Re: Custom rule not hitting suddenly?)

2014-09-08 Thread Dave Pooser
>>embedded in the rules. > ^ >Code, not rules. Which basically is the issue here... Just read what I *mean* and not what I type. ;-) -- Dave Pooser Cat-Herder-in-Chief, Pooserville.com "...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty

Re: Valid TLDs (was: Re: Custom rule not hitting suddenly?)

2014-09-08 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 21:45 -0500, Dave Pooser wrote: > On 9/8/14 8:45 PM, "Karsten Bräckelmann" wrote: > > >There is one down side: A new dependency on Regexp::List [1]. The RE > >pre-compile one-time upstart penalty should be negligible. > > > >[1] Well, or a really, really f*cking ugly option

Re: Valid TLDs (was: Re: Custom rule not hitting suddenly?)

2014-09-08 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
, this is not actually a 3.3.x issue. It's the same with 3.4.0. Yes, > >> that is a *recent* TLD addition... *sigh* > > > > Unlike the util_rb_[23]tld options, the set of valid TLDs is actually > > hard-coded. It would not be a problem to make that an option, too. > &

Re: Valid TLDs (was: Re: Custom rule not hitting suddenly?)

2014-09-08 Thread Dave Pooser
On 9/8/14 8:45 PM, "Karsten Bräckelmann" wrote: >There is one down side: A new dependency on Regexp::List [1]. The RE >pre-compile one-time upstart penalty should be negligible. > >[1] Well, or a really, really f*cking ugly option that takes a >pre-optimzed qr// blob containing the VALID_TLDS

Re: Valid TLDs (was: Re: Custom rule not hitting suddenly?)

2014-09-08 Thread listsb-spamassassin
just recently. Of course I was conveniently >> using a trunk checkout for testing and kind of shrugged off that TLD in >> question. >> >> FWIW, this is not actually a 3.3.x issue. It's the same with 3.4.0. Yes, >> that is a *recent* TLD addition... *sigh* >

Re: Valid TLDs (was: Re: Custom rule not hitting suddenly?)

2014-09-08 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 22:15 -0400, Daniel Staal wrote: > --As of September 9, 2014 3:45:33 AM +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann is alleged > to have said: > > > This incidence is part of the initial round of IANA accepting generic > > TLDs. There's hundreds in this wave, and some are abused early. This

Re: Valid TLDs (was: Re: Custom rule not hitting suddenly?)

2014-09-08 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of September 9, 2014 3:45:33 AM +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann is alleged to have said: This incidence is part of the initial round of IANA accepting generic TLDs. There's hundreds in this wave, and some are abused early. This is moonshine registration, nothing like new TLDs being accepted in

Valid TLDs (was: Re: Custom rule not hitting suddenly?)

2014-09-08 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
ng and kind of shrugged off that TLD in > question. > > FWIW, this is not actually a 3.3.x issue. It's the same with 3.4.0. Yes, > that is a *recent* TLD addition... *sigh* Unlike the util_rb_[23]tld options, the set of valid TLDs is actually hard-coded. It would not be a prob