On Mittwoch, 3. Mai 2006 22:10 Brent Kennedy wrote:
> My problem with that
> is that some companies don't have them even though they are
> legitimate. They usually don't have them because of the lack of good
> or full time IT staff.
Sell them service. I ususally offer to make their system fixed, i
On Wed, 3 May 2006, Brent Kennedy wrote:
> rules. The issue before here, is that spamassassin doesn't split emails up
> between recipients when a message is sent to multiple people. If one user
> is on the whitelist_to or all_spam_to or some_spam_to list, then everyone
> gets its.
[snip..]
This
Brent Kennedy wrote:
> Bowie wrote:
> > Greg Allen wrote:
> > > Also, now that AOL is blocking all email with no PTR record, you can
> > > probably kill a lot of spam with that right on the front end now. If
> > > anyone complains, ask them how they email to AOL. :-)
> >
> > I could get away with
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Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 4:06 PM
To: Brent Kennedy
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Subject: Re: Silly Question
Brent Kennedy wrote:
> Wow.. You definitely went the opposite direction. Although, I did
> appreciate a well written explanation of the bayes system.
Well, I intenti
esday, May 03, 2006 3:15 PM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: RE: Silly Question
Greg Allen wrote:
> I know some people use the public folder drag-drop for learning spam,
> but I personally don't like the whole idea. And I did consider it.
>
> I would rather work sma
Brent Kennedy wrote:
> Wow.. You definitely went the opposite direction. Although, I did
> appreciate a well written explanation of the bayes system.
Well, I intentionally went the opposite way, to make sure that at least you
realize what is really going on. I wasn't really intending that to be
nt Kennedy; users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: RE: Silly Question
I know some people use the public folder drag-drop for learning spam, but I
personally don't like the whole idea. And I did consider it.
I would rather work smarter on the server end to kill or mark the spam
before it gets
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Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:47 PM
To: Brent Kennedy
Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: Silly Question
Brent Kennedy wrote:
> Here is my explanation for how spamassassin learns email as
> spam(laymans
> terms):
>
> 1. Users receive the junk email
> 2. The u
Greg Allen wrote:
> I know some people use the public folder drag-drop for learning spam,
> but I personally don't like the whole idea. And I did consider it.
>
> I would rather work smarter on the server end to kill or mark the spam
> before it gets to the user.
>
> I don't think users should ha
I don't do the learning thing.
http://www.midcoast.com/help/email/spam.html is how we explain it to
users.
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 12:53:57PM -0400, Brent Kennedy wrote:
> I am trying my best to explain to a non-technical person how spamassassin
> works. The other issue I have is that I am tryi
Brent Kennedy wrote:
> Here is my explanation for how spamassassin learns email as spam(laymans
> terms):
>
> 1. Users receive the junk email
> 2. The users who received the junk email drags and drops the email to the
> spammail public folder in outlook
> 3. Spamassassin connects to the internal
m: Brent Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 12:54 PM
> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> Subject: Silly Question
>
>
> I am trying my best to explain to a non-technical person how spamassassin
> works. The other issue I have is that I am trying
; legitimate messages, but that's an added detail that only muddies the
> waters.
>
> And FWIW, I don't think it's a silly question at all. Some people
> have the luxury of only filtering their own mail, and can be as
> hard-line as they want. The rest of us have to
Brent Kennedy wrote:
I am trying my best to explain to a non-technical person how spamassassin
works. The other issue I have is that I am trying to explain to them why
they need to drag mail to a public folder so the server can learn it as
spam. They say they are doing it but they get the messa
dered spam.
You could also explain that there's some rules with negative point values,
and these represent characteristics that are more common of legitimate
messages, but that's an added detail that only muddies the waters.
And FWIW, I don't think it's a silly question at all. S
I am trying my best to explain to a non-technical person how spamassassin
works. The other issue I have is that I am trying to explain to them why
they need to drag mail to a public folder so the server can learn it as
spam. They say they are doing it but they get the message several times a
day.
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