Re: Second step with SA

2014-08-15 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2014-08-15 at 12:21 -0400, Daniel Staal wrote: > --As of August 15, 2014 1:23:37 PM +0200, Antony Stone is alleged to have > said: > > http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.0.x/dist/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf > > .html#language_options > Both of these links are out of date. The whitelis

Re: Second step with SA

2014-08-15 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of August 15, 2014 1:23:37 PM +0200, Antony Stone is alleged to have said: On Friday 15 August 2014 at 13:05:26 (EU time), Timothy Murphy wrote: 1) What is the simplest way to reject mail in chinese, russian and turkish? http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.0.x/dist/doc/Mail_SpamAssassi

Re: Second step with SA

2014-08-15 Thread Axb
On 08/15/2014 05:21 PM, Bowie Bailey wrote: On 8/15/2014 11:07 AM, David F. Skoll wrote: On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 10:02:14 -0500 Steve Bergman wrote: So basically, elevate it to the level of an absolute blacklist. I'm not sure I trust Zen that much. I'm more a Bayes proponent than a DNSBL proponen

Re: Second step with SA

2014-08-15 Thread David F. Skoll
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 11:21:47 -0400 Bowie Bailey wrote: > Considering only the spam: > 67% Spamhaus rejections > 33% Marked by SA > YMMV, but it works quite well for me. Indeed, MM does V. :) spam=> select count(*) from incidents where status = 'spam'; count --- 2391 spam=> select coun

Re: Second step with SA

2014-08-15 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 8/15/2014 11:07 AM, David F. Skoll wrote: On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 10:02:14 -0500 Steve Bergman wrote: So basically, elevate it to the level of an absolute blacklist. I'm not sure I trust Zen that much. I'm more a Bayes proponent than a DNSBL proponent. Me too. I'm also surprised that the OP c

Re: Second step with SA

2014-08-15 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, Timothy Murphy wrote: 2) I get some email wrongly marked spam - always from the same site. I'm tried marking this as ham (and running "sa-learn --ham") but this has surprisingly little effect. A few fairly standard things to consider, in case you aren't already awar

Re: Second step with SA

2014-08-15 Thread David F. Skoll
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 10:02:14 -0500 Steve Bergman wrote: > So basically, elevate it to the level of an absolute blacklist. > I'm not sure I trust Zen that much. I'm more a Bayes proponent than a > DNSBL proponent. Me too. I'm also surprised that the OP claimed it caught 70% of his spam. I see

Re: Second step with SA

2014-08-15 Thread Steve Bergman
On 08/15/2014 09:37 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote: Yes, it is part of the default rule set. But what I am saying is to add it to your MTA as a blacklist. That way anything matched by Zen will be rejected by the MTA without ever having to run SA. So basically, elevate it to the level of an absolute

Re: Second step with SA

2014-08-15 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 8/15/2014 10:33 AM, Steve Bergman wrote: On 08/15/2014 09:14 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote: The best way to quickly cut spam is to add the zen.spamhaus.org blacklist to your MTA. http://www.spamhaus.org/zen/ Is that not included in the default rule set? If not, I'm not sure where mine came from.

Re: Second step with SA

2014-08-15 Thread Steve Bergman
On 08/15/2014 09:14 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote: The best way to quickly cut spam is to add the zen.spamhaus.org blacklist to your MTA. http://www.spamhaus.org/zen/ Is that not included in the default rule set? If not, I'm not sure where mine came from. -Steve Bergman

Re: Second step with SA

2014-08-15 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 15.08.14 13:05, Timothy Murphy wrote: Having got SA working at last on my CentOS-7 home server, I'm thinking of improving its use for me (no-one else). It's finding about 65% of my spam, and I'd like to increase that to 80%. 1) What is the simplest way to reject mail in chinese, russian and t

Re: Second step with SA

2014-08-15 Thread Steve Bergman
On 08/15/2014 06:05 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: 1) What is the simplest way to reject mail in chinese, russian and turkish? Is the spam actually written in Chinese, Russian, and Turkish languages? Or does it come from Chinese, Russian, and Turkish domains? The spam my users accounts receive c

Re: Second step with SA

2014-08-15 Thread Joe Quinn
On 8/15/2014 10:14 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote: On 8/15/2014 7:05 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Having got SA working at last on my CentOS-7 home server, I'm thinking of improving its use for me (no-one else). It's finding about 65% of my spam, and I'd like to increase that to 80%. The best way to quic

Re: Second step with SA

2014-08-15 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 8/15/2014 7:05 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Having got SA working at last on my CentOS-7 home server, I'm thinking of improving its use for me (no-one else). It's finding about 65% of my spam, and I'd like to increase that to 80%. The best way to quickly cut spam is to add the zen.spamhaus.org

Re: Second step with SA

2014-08-15 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 15 August 2014 at 13:05:26 (EU time), Timothy Murphy wrote: > 1) What is the simplest way to reject mail in chinese, russian > and turkish? http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.0.x/dist/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html#language_options > 2) I get some email wrongly marked spam - always

Second step with SA

2014-08-15 Thread Timothy Murphy
Having got SA working at last on my CentOS-7 home server, I'm thinking of improving its use for me (no-one else). It's finding about 65% of my spam, and I'd like to increase that to 80%. 1) What is the simplest way to reject mail in chinese, russian and turkish? 2) I get some email wrongly marked