RE: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Don Levey
Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: > Don Levey wrote: >> An informal check does show that the IPs are indeed listed. As many >> of them should be - there are many people using cable modems and DSL >> who are listed in dynablocks because they are supposed to be using >> their ISP's mail server. But in a sit

Re: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Don Levey wrote: An informal check does show that the IPs are indeed listed. As many of them should be - there are many people using cable modems and DSL who are listed in dynablocks because they are supposed to be using their ISP's mail server. But in a situation where they do that, if the ISP re

RE: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Don Levey
martin smith wrote: >> -Original Message- >> Don Levey wrote: > >> >> It was pointed out to me that SURBL lists only check URLs - I >> apologise for that. I *am* getting the problem described >> above with hits on Spamcop and SORBS. Additionally, >> apparently even the mere text mention o

Re: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Andy Jezierski
Jim Maul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/27/2005 01:48:40 PM: > > Oh its real! However my nachos are home made using Cool Ranch Doritos. ;) > > I'm willing to try your version! I haven't run into a food I won't try. > > > > --Chris > > > Maybe you should go on fear factor then ;) > > -Jim

RE: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Theodore Heise [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 3:17 PM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: RE: SPEWS still sucks > > > > >On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Chris Santerre wrote: >> >> Oh its r

RE: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Theodore Heise
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Chris Santerre wrote: > > Oh its real! However my nachos are home made using Cool Ranch Doritos. ;) Naw. They're not homemade until you fry the chips yourself. Might even have to press out the tortillas to qualify... -- Theodore (Ted) Heise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bl

Re: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Jim Maul
Chris Santerre wrote: From: jdow From: "Chris Santerre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --Chris (D.Q. has forced me to kill a plate of nachos! Damn you D.Q. those nachos had families!) Real nachos or something from the likes of Taco Bell or Del Taco? (At my favorite Mexican place near here a nachos appetize

RE: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Chris Santerre
>From: jdow > >From: "Chris Santerre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> --Chris >> (D.Q. has forced me to kill a plate of nachos! Damn you D.Q. >those nachos >> had families!) > >Real nachos or something from the likes of Taco Bell or Del Taco? >(At my favorite Mexican place near here a nachos appetizer

Re: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread jdow
From: "Chris Santerre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > --Chris > (D.Q. has forced me to kill a plate of nachos! Damn you D.Q. those nachos > had families!) Real nachos or something from the likes of Taco Bell or Del Taco? (At my favorite Mexican place near here a nachos appetizer comes in a half size versi

RE: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread martin smith
|-Original Message- |Don Levey wrote: | |It was pointed out to me that SURBL lists only check URLs - I |apologise for that. I *am* getting the problem described |above with hits on Spamcop and SORBS. Additionally, |apparently even the mere text mention of a .biz address |triggers tha

Re: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Rainer Sokoll
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 11:27:57AM -0500, Chris Santerre wrote: > Being that SURBL deals ONLY with URLs, what the heck are you talking about? Maybe he is still using osirusoft (has nothing to do with SURBL, I know)? Rainer

RE: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Chris Santerre
>> Why is the WS FP rate still that high? Yes it catches the most spam, >> but please please please report ANY FPs you get right away. It needs >> to be under .10 in my mind. If we don't do this soon, I will start >> taking plates of nachos hostage. You don't want to know what I'll do >> to them!!

RE: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Don Levey
Don Levey wrote: > Rick Macdougall wrote: >> Daniel Quinlan wrote: >>> Raymond Dijkxhoorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> >>> Ohw well, lists.surbl.org also. At some point they hopefully understand that list will completely useless, and indeed insain for people to actually use it. Sa

RE: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Chris Santerre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why is the WS FP rate still that high? Yes it catches the most spam, > but please please please report ANY FPs you get right away. It needs > to be under .10 in my mind. If we don't do this soon, I will start > taking plates of nachos hostage. You don't

RE: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! Whatever your unstated reasons are, I beg to differ. Weekly mass-check results for SURBL: Perhaps he means spews lists lists.surbl.org. I can't see anyone having issues with any of the SURBL RBL's. I must not have things set up correctly then. I get many MANY false positives from the SURBL l

RE: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Don Levey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:09 AM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: RE: SPEWS still sucks > > >Rick Macdougall wrote: >> Daniel Quinlan wrote: >>> Raymon

RE: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Don Levey
Rick Macdougall wrote: > Daniel Quinlan wrote: >> Raymond Dijkxhoorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> >>> Ohw well, lists.surbl.org also. At some point they hopefully >>> understand that list will completely useless, and indeed insain for >>> people to actually use it. Sadly, people still do. >> >

RE: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Daniel Quinlan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 8:09 PM >To: Raymond Dijkxhoorn >Cc: Daniel Quinlan; users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: SPEWS still sucks > > >Raymond Dijkxhoorn <[EMAIL PRO

Re: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Matt Kettler
At 07:55 PM 1/26/2005, Daniel Quinlan wrote: I thought I'd pass this on to the users list. This is from work I was doing on bug 4105... a quick mass-check run of SPEWS rules: It's not even worth finishing the mass-check... OVERALL% SPAM% HAM% S/ORANK SCORE NAME 17895 9

Re: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread jdow
From: "Rick Macdougall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Daniel Quinlan wrote: > > Raymond Dijkxhoorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > >>Yes, Bingo! > >> > >>Why would i have a problem with SURBL, > > > > > > I was wondering... > > > > > >>JP_SURBL is 'my' list... > > > > > > Well, then my res

Re: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Rick Macdougall
Daniel Quinlan wrote: Raymond Dijkxhoorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Yes, Bingo! Why would i have a problem with SURBL, I was wondering... JP_SURBL is 'my' list... Well, then my response makes even less sense, but hey, you gotta use complete sentences! :-p Daniel Heheh, Foot, meet Mouth. :)

Re: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Raymond Dijkxhoorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yes, Bingo! > > Why would i have a problem with SURBL, I was wondering... > JP_SURBL is 'my' list... Well, then my response makes even less sense, but hey, you gotta use complete sentences! :-p Daniel -- Daniel Quinlan http://www.pathname.com

Re: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! Ohw well, lists.surbl.org also. At some point they hopefully understand that list will completely useless, and indeed insain for people to actually use it. Sadly, people still do. Whatever your unstated reasons are, I beg to differ. Weekly mass-check results for SURBL: Daniel -- I think he m

Re: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Quinlan writes: > Raymond Dijkxhoorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Ohw well, lists.surbl.org also. At some point they hopefully > > understand that list will completely useless, and indeed insain for > > people to actually use it. Sadly, p

Re: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Jeff Chan
On Wednesday, January 26, 2005, 5:08:54 PM, Daniel Quinlan wrote: > Raymond Dijkxhoorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Ohw well, lists.surbl.org also. At some point they hopefully >> understand that list will completely useless, and indeed insain for >> people to actually use it. Sadly, people stil

Re: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Rick Macdougall
Daniel Quinlan wrote: Raymond Dijkxhoorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ohw well, lists.surbl.org also. At some point they hopefully understand that list will completely useless, and indeed insain for people to actually use it. Sadly, people still do. Whatever your unstated reasons are, I beg to di

Re: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Raymond Dijkxhoorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ohw well, lists.surbl.org also. At some point they hopefully > understand that list will completely useless, and indeed insain for > people to actually use it. Sadly, people still do. Whatever your unstated reasons are, I beg to differ. Weekly mas

Re: SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! Not going to add these, obviously. That's just nuts, even worse than SPEWS used to be. Top domains among their ham blacklistings: [in this section of my personal ham corpus]] 57 apache.org 96 ActiveState.com 114 debian.org Also, yahoo.com, sourceforge.net, julianhaight.com

SPEWS still sucks

2005-01-27 Thread Daniel Quinlan
I thought I'd pass this on to the users list. This is from work I was doing on bug 4105... a quick mass-check run of SPEWS rules: It's not even worth finishing the mass-check... OVERALL% SPAM% HAM% S/ORANK SCORE NAME 17895 9097 87980.508 0.000.00 (all