RE: SORBS unreasonable

2006-03-01 Thread Shayne Lebrun
> jdow wrote: > > Extortion means extracting funds by some form of criminal means. > > Extortion in the form of, pay or we block access to your business, > > is as wrong as "pay or we'll break your legs." > > > > {^_^} > > SORBS isn't blocking access to anybody's business. The worst > they could b

Re: SORBS unreasonable

2006-02-28 Thread Matt Kettler
Matt Kettler wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> jdow wrote: >>> Extortion means extracting funds by some form of criminal means. >>> Extortion in the form of, pay or we block access to your business, >>> is as wrong as "pay or we'll break your legs." >>> >>> {^_^} >> SORBS isn't blocking access t

Re: SORBS unreasonable

2006-02-28 Thread Matt Kettler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > jdow wrote: >> Extortion means extracting funds by some form of criminal means. >> Extortion in the form of, pay or we block access to your business, >> is as wrong as "pay or we'll break your legs." >> >> {^_^} > > SORBS isn't blocking access to anybody's business. The

RE: SORBS unreasonable

2006-02-28 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
jdow wrote: > Extortion means extracting funds by some form of criminal means. > Extortion in the form of, pay or we block access to your business, > is as wrong as "pay or we'll break your legs." > > {^_^} SORBS isn't blocking access to anybody's business. The worst they could be accused of is

Re: SORBS unreasonable

2006-02-28 Thread jdow
Extortion means extracting funds by some form of criminal means. Extortion in the form of, pay or we block access to your business, is as wrong as "pay or we'll break your legs." {^_^} - Original Message - From: "Clay Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't believe what SORBS is doing fit

Re: SORBS unreasonable

2006-02-28 Thread Clay Davis
Sorry, I don't agree. Nothing you listed is an "illegal" practice. Not agreeing with their practices and extortion are very different. (btw - I don't use them either.) C >>> On 2/28/2006 at 4:19:34 pm, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, mouss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Clay Davis a écrit : >>

Re: SORBS unreasonable

2006-02-28 Thread mouss
Clay Davis a écrit : > Maybe #3, in a strictly dictionary since of the word, but I doubt it. Never > #2; SORBS holds no "official" position or power. When you make an accusation > of extortion, you better be using the "legal" definition. I'm no lawyer, but > I am pretty sure the legal definit

Re: SORBS unreasonable

2006-02-28 Thread Patrick von der Hagen
Clay Davis wrote: Maybe #3, in a strictly dictionary since of the word, but I doubt it. Never #2; SORBS holds no "official" position or power. When you make an accusation of extortion, you better be using the "legal" definition. I'm no lawyer, but I am pretty sure the legal definition invol

Re: SORBS unreasonable

2006-02-28 Thread Clay Davis
Maybe #3, in a strictly dictionary since of the word, but I doubt it. Never #2; SORBS holds no "official" position or power. When you make an accusation of extortion, you better be using the "legal" definition. I'm no lawyer, but I am pretty sure the legal definition involves some force coupl

Re: SORBS unreasonable

2006-02-28 Thread Mike Jackson
I don't believe what SORBS is doing fits the legal definition of extortion... no matter how you spell it. :-) There is no threat of either violence or criminal wrong doing and SORBS is operating a legal service... From dictionary.com: 1. The act or an instance of extorting. 2. Illegal use o

Re: SORBS unreasonable

2006-02-28 Thread Clay Davis
I don't believe what SORBS is doing fits the legal definition of extortion... no matter how you spell it. :-) There is no threat of either violence or criminal wrong doing and SORBS is operating a legal service... Re, Clay >>> On 2/28/2006 at 1:12:14 pm, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, mouss <[

Re: SORBS unreasonable

2006-02-28 Thread mouss
jdow a écrit : > > Over here in the US it's spelled "extortion", I've used the french version... and indeed it is perhaps > over the line just a bit. If some hungry or simple publicity seeking > class action lawyer gets wind of it then SORBS may be history. {o.o} this will probably happen some

Re: SORBS unreasonable

2006-02-27 Thread jdow
From: "mouss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Johann Spies a écrit : One of our email-servers is blacklisted by SORBS and they want us to pay $50 to get the server taken of the list. In many countries, this is called extorsion. but this isn't the right forum to debate this. Over here in the US it's sp

Re: SORBS unreasonable: Accusation retracted

2006-02-27 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 27 Feb 2006, Johann Spies wrote: > New information came to light and I retract my insinuation that SORBS > was unreasonable: Apparently the owner(s) of the spesific mailing > list populated the list with names harvested from the internet. > > Apologies to SORBS. > > Regards > Johann That

Re: SORBS unreasonable

2006-02-27 Thread Jeremy Kister
On 2/27/2006 3:47 AM, Johann Spies wrote: One of our email-servers is blacklisted by SORBS and they want us to pay $50 to get the server taken of the list. I had an entire /16 blocked by sorbs a small while ago. How do the members of this list handle situations like that? Three ways (only t

Re: SORBS unreasonable

2006-02-27 Thread mouss
Johann Spies a écrit : > One of our email-servers is blacklisted by SORBS and they want us to > pay $50 to get the server taken of the list. > In many countries, this is called extorsion. but this isn't the right forum to debate this. [snip] > > How do the members of this list handle situation

Re: SORBS unreasonable: Accusation retracted

2006-02-27 Thread Johann Spies
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 04:24:27AM -0500, Greg Allen wrote: > I noticed you did not say your mailing list was a confirmed opt-in. > > If it does not do a confirmed opt-in, you should fix that. Otherwise you > will not stay delisted long. Could get expensive too at $50 a pop. > > > > > On enquir

RE: SORBS unreasonable

2006-02-27 Thread Greg Allen
I noticed you did not say your mailing list was a confirmed opt-in. If it does not do a confirmed opt-in, you should fix that. Otherwise you will not stay delisted long. Could get expensive too at $50 a pop. > On enquiry on why we were blacklisted, it came to light that it was > blacklisted on

SORBS unreasonable

2006-02-27 Thread Johann Spies
One of our email-servers is blacklisted by SORBS and they want us to pay $50 to get the server taken of the list. On enquiry on why we were blacklisted, it came to light that it was blacklisted on false accounts - a valid mailing list related to one of our academic departments on campus. However,