On 04.08.08 11:47, Rob Sharp wrote:
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
>
> >>All messages that SA determines as spammy has [SPAM] prefixed to the
> >>subject line.
> >
> >there's header rewriting set up somwehere.
>
> My Host just told me to add "rewrite_subject 0" into m
Thanks for the reply.
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
All messages that SA determines as spammy has [SPAM] prefixed to the
subject line.
there's header rewriting set up somwehere.
My Host just told me to add "rewrite_subject 0" into my user_prefs. I
think they actually mean rewrite_header. I'
On 02.08.08 23:31, Rob Sharp wrote:
> I have an email account on a shared server at Hostgator. I have
> configured SpamAssassin via their Cpanel interface not to rewrite the
> subject line when flagging an item as spam. However, this flagging still
> seems to be happening.
>
> All messages that
Thanks!
That and /etc/init.d/spamass-milter had the -m switch on.
Now we're changing subjects!!!
Theo Van Dinter-2 wrote:
>
> On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 05:49:24AM -0700, dougp23 wrote:
>> #Change the subject of suspected spam
>> rewrite_header_subject***SPAM***
>
> It's:
>
> rewrite_h
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 05:49:24AM -0700, dougp23 wrote:
> #Change the subject of suspected spam
> rewrite_header_subject***SPAM***
It's:
rewrite_header Subject ...
not:
rewrite_header_subject ...
"perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf" :)
--
Randomly Selected Tagline:
"Y'know, Zap, onc
Jeff Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I certainly agree with a simple [SA} prefix so that the SA emails
> don't get lost and deleted with all the other stuff I get. However,
> this came up a few months ago and the SA list nazis decided that we
> must be too stupid not to have programmed our email
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 4:10 AM
> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Subject line
>
>
> Dave Goodrich wrote:
> > I was non committal on the whole subject w
Dave Goodrich wrote:
> I was non committal on the whole subject when this started. I tend to
> disagree with militant list nazis regardless of the topic or the view
> they put forth.
This is the second time in this thread that Nazis have been mentioned.
I hereby invoke Godwin's Law and declare t
Quoting Michael Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
"I see!" said the blind man as he picked up his hammer and saw...
I forgot the word "Subject" in that line.
Not only that, but the line above it
rewrite_subject 1
should be removed as it does nothing anymore.
-Jim
"I see!" said the blind man as he picked up his hammer and saw...
I forgot the word "Subject" in that line.
Thanx!
-Michael
>>> Michael Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 09/15/04 02:41PM >>>
On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 02:27:29PM -0500, Michael Weber wrote:
> I just installed SA 3.0 RC5 on my test server.
Michael Weber wrote:
{You know, if you send them the headers it might be helpful!}
Sorry.
always_add_headers 1
report_safe 0
rewrite_subject 1
rewrite_header %%SPAM%%% (_SCORE_)
dns_available yes
subject_tag %%SPAM%%% (_SCORE_)
use_terse_rep
On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 02:27:29PM -0500, Michael Weber wrote:
> I just installed SA 3.0 RC5 on my test server. The problem is, the
> subject line is not being modified even though all the other headers are
> there.
>
> What did I miss?
>
> Here's the lines from my local.cf.
>
> Thanx!
>
> -
{You know, if you send them the headers it might be helpful!}
Sorry.
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> -Original Message-
> From: Kenneth Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:51 PM
> To: SpamAssassin Discussion
> Subject: RE: Subject line
>
>
> --On Tuesday, September 14, 2004 2:14 PM -0700 Bret Miller
> <[EMAIL P
look
at the example Dan wrote below. MIND THE WORD WRAPS in his example.
--Chris
>-Original Message-
>From: Dan Mahoney, System Admin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 5:38 PM
>To: Tom Meunier
>Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
>Subject: Re: Su
Quoting Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
At 08:40 PM 9/14/2004, Jim Maul wrote:
> Good letter. Procmail is a wonder if we take the time to learn it.
>
Sure, great, i'd love to take the time to learn it...except that my
installation
doesnt use procmail at all. Any other ideas for all the people
Jim Maul wrote:
Quoting Ralf Hildebrandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
* Michele Neylon::Blacknight Solutions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Why is List-Id not sufficient?
It's only visible if you examine the header. Something in the subject
line is a lot more visual
Pssst: "Subject:" is also a header.
I was non c
--On Wednesday, September 15, 2004 00:34:41 -0400 Jeff Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Your response is exactly why I used the term. I, and apparently
a few others, do not want to pre-sort our mail into folders but
like to work with a list of mail as received and dispose of the
mail based upon the
Hey, it's legal for ISP's to read your email so why not filter it as well!
Just my $0.02.
From: mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 9/14/2004 7:05 PM
To: Satya
Cc: SpamAssassin list
Subject: Re: [SidePost] Re: [TopPost] RE: [SA-LIST] RE: Su
Hey, what is wrong with using rules to sort sa list mail? All my sa
mail goes to a spamassassin folder, done.
-Jim
-Original Message-
From: Jim Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:27 PM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: Subject line
Quoting
Since this thread is so wack...
I was at volunteer call for the austin city limits festival and 6 or
seven people said that the emails from the coordinators were getting
caught in the isps spamfilters and they never recieved them. I asked if
they werent just in the spam bucket or whatever and they
CTED]
Sent: Tue 9/14/2004 5:02 PM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: [TopPost] RE: [SA-LIST] RE: Subject line
Like dirt nap gone? In that case nevermind.
At 08:40 PM 9/14/2004, Jim Maul wrote:
> Good letter. Procmail is a wonder if we take the time to learn it.
>
Sure, great, i'd love to take the time to learn it...except that my
installation
doesnt use procmail at all. Any other ideas for all the people in the
same boat
as me?
What do you use f
Quoting Satya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
IDSPISPOPD (that's "no clipping" in Doom)
oh the good ole days...
(and remember, there's a side-post down there)
On Sep 14, 2004 at 16:16, Chris Santerre wrote:
I figured is you were gonna start another group flame war, we should do it
correctly.
You forgot >1
Quoting Raquel Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:15:21 -0400
Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You can choose to implement it in
procmail locally, it's quite easy.
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spamassassin.general/40735/match=subject+prefix+new+list
The fundamental
Quoting "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Kelson wrote:
Trust me, I've dated a girl who liked anime and spoke in nothing but
leetspeak and broken japanese. It sounds cute until you get a PHONE CALL
asking "when will B teh Gushi home 4 dinn0rz".
Can i have her nu
On Sep 14, 2004 at 15:11, Kenneth Porter wrote:
>I suspect a lot of people don't recognize this issue because we've all
>become spoiled with big monitors and high resolution graphics cards. But
>there are still people reading their mail on PDA's and other small
>displays, and every pixel is precio
ns to JayZ.
>9) Guns kill people, not puppies.
>10) Jello shouldn't be a food.
>
>Now THATS how you start a flame war!!! Woot! :-)
>
>--Chris
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Carnegie, Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004
On Sep 14, 2004 at 12:15, Predrag Lezaic wrote:
>Would it be possible to have emails to this list have something such as
>"[SA-LIST} Subject here" in the subject line for easier sorting of the
>emails in folders? This is actually the first list am using that
>doesn't have anything unique in the s
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:15:21 -0400
Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You can choose to implement it in
> procmail locally, it's quite easy.
>
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spamassassin.general/40735/match=subject+prefix+new+list
>
> The fundamental points against implementi
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Bret Miller wrote:
Anyway, I didn't ask for the subject tag. Was merely answering a
question of how it would help someone. Again, it's obvious to me that
there are way to many people against it here to even bother. You might
as well try to convince Mac users that PCs are better
> > Which then means I have to keep track of a dozen folders, which is
> > something I don't need to do for the very few messages on
> this list that
> > are even remotely relevant.
>
> How do you determine relevance? When I open my SA Users folder in the
> morning, it typically has a 100 messages
At 05:00 PM 9/14/2004, Michele Neylon::Blacknight Solutions wrote:
I don't always use evolution and even if I did I would still prefer
something in the subject line
As I already said, other lists allow people to choose.
The Apache list allows you to choose.. You can choose to implement it in
proc
--On Tuesday, September 14, 2004 3:06 PM -0700 Pat Lashley
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It can be a problem for people with limited display space for
the Subject: line. The significant part can be pushed right
off the edge.
I suspect a lot of people don't recognize this issue because we've all
be
On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 14:53 -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> --On Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:00 PM +0100 "Michele Neylon::Blacknight
> Solutions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > As I already said, other lists allow people to choose.
>
> What list software (including version) do those lists us
On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 14:53 -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> --On Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:00 PM +0100 "Michele Neylon::Blacknight
> Solutions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > As I already said, other lists allow people to choose.
>
> What list software (including version) do those lists us
--On Tuesday, September 14, 2004 5:09 PM -0400 Jim Maul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
If someone replies to a message i sent to the list, and they happen to
hit "reply-all" both the list and i will get a copy. Filtering on listid
will send 1 to the list box i have set up and 1 copy to my inbox. Fi
--On Tuesday, September 14, 2004 16:26:54 -0400 Jim Maul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Quoting Jeff Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I certainly agree with a simple [SA} prefix so that the SA emails don't get
lost and deleted with all the other stuff I get. However, this came up a
few months ago and the SA
--On Tuesday, September 14, 2004 2:57 PM -0700 Bret Miller
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Which then means I have to keep track of a dozen folders, which is
something I don't need to do for the very few messages on this list that
are even remotely relevant.
How do you determine relevance? When I open
--On Tuesday, September 14, 2004 5:05 PM -0400 "Dan Mahoney, System Admin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Because I read mail from a common inbox. Everything is there, on one
screen, for me to check and read as it comes in, without having to
folder-jump (my mailer, btw, is pine). Things of low rele
> > It makes life easier if you stuff a few related lists into a single
> > mailbox.
>
> "Doc, it hurts when I do this."
>
> "Then stop doing that."
>
> Hierarchy is a good thing. Move the lists to separate folders under a
> container folder. I'm filing this list to
> mail/Lists/Mail/SpamAssassin.
--On Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:00 PM +0100 "Michele Neylon::Blacknight
Solutions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
As I already said, other lists allow people to choose.
What list software (including version) do those lists use? Is this a
per-subscriber option or do you mean the choice is for the
--On Tuesday, September 14, 2004 2:14 PM -0700 Bret Miller
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I use Outlook so I don't have a lot of options for sorting like some
other apps do.
I coulda sworn the last time I looked at it that Outlook supported multiple
folders. Does it not have the ability to recognize
--On Tuesday, September 14, 2004 1:55 PM -0700 Bret Miller
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It makes life easier if you stuff a few related lists into a single
mailbox.
"Doc, it hurts when I do this."
"Then stop doing that."
Hierarchy is a good thing. Move the lists to separate folders under a
contain
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:14:17 -0700, "Bret Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> Maybe it wouldn't make *your* life easier. But because it's visual, it
> allows me to more easily discern relevance when I put more than one list
> together in a mailbox. A certain subject in one list would be more
> rele
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Tom Meunier wrote:
Well, if anyone cares, here's how you do it in procmail...you can use
anything you want instead of $DEFAULT.
Have fun.
---
# this just captures the subject into a variable, strips spaces from
# beginning and end.
SUBJ_=`formail -xSubjec
On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 16:28 -0500, Tom Meunier wrote:
> I vote for per-user settings, and if that's not available I vote for
> postpending it, and if that's not available I vote for "Hey, I hate them
> and deal with it, so you deal with it when they're NOT there!"
Choice is always best
--
Mr. M
On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 16:28 -0500, Tom Meunier wrote:
> I vote for per-user settings, and if that's not available I vote for
> postpending it, and if that's not available I vote for "Hey, I hate them
> and deal with it, so you deal with it when they're NOT there!"
Choice is always best
--
Mr. M
Jim Maul wrote:
Also, i dont see how it would break alphabetical sorting any more than
mail
clients inserting Re: before the subject.
All I have to test with here is Outlook, Outlook Express, and Mozilla
Thunderbird. They all ignore RE: and FWD: when sorting by subject.
They don't ignore [L
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Kelson wrote:
Trust me, I've dated a girl who liked anime and spoke in nothing but
leetspeak and broken japanese. It sounds cute until you get a PHONE CALL
asking "when will B teh Gushi home 4 dinn0rz".
She's gone now.
-Dan
Surely you've seen this: "Puppy shoots Florida man
Surely you've seen this: "Puppy shoots Florida man"
http://www.semissourian.com/story.html$rec=145935
(Deliberately top posting to keep the subject tag accurate. And hey, if
it results in hot girlz, who am I to complain?)
scohen wrote:
I thought it was Guns kill people, people kill puppies and OM
On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 14:14 -0700, Bret Miller wrote:
>
> I don't expect the policy will change, so I'll eventually find another
> visual way to deal with it.
And who decides the policy?
--
Mr. Michele Neylon
Blacknight Solutions
Hosting, Co-location & Domain Registration
http://www.blacknight
On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 14:14 -0700, Bret Miller wrote:
>
> I don't expect the policy will change, so I'll eventually find another
> visual way to deal with it.
And who decides the policy?
--
Mr. Michele Neylon
Blacknight Solutions
Hosting, Co-location & Domain Registration
http://www.blacknight
> >>>Having a simple prefix in the subject line makes life a lot
> >>>easier.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Precisely *how* does it make life "easier"?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >It makes life easier if you stuff a few related lists into a single
> >mailbox.
> >
> >
>
> I don't get it. I only have the one mailbox and a d
Quoting Ralf Hildebrandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
* Michele Neylon::Blacknight Solutions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Why is List-Id not sufficient?
It's only visible if you examine the header. Something in the subject
line is a lot more visual
Pssst: "Subject:" is also a header.
Yes, but its one that every
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Tom Meunier wrote:
Bret Miller wrote:
Having a simple prefix in the subject line makes life a lot
easier.
Precisely *how* does it make life "easier"?
It makes life easier if you stuff a few related lists into a single
mailbox.
Because a program isn't doing the sorting. Your
Quoting Tom Meunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:
Did someone HAVE a good reason for why it's not happening? I can
live with a four-character longer subject line.
Yup. Atrocities like this:
http://www.perlcode.org/lists/vps-mail/msg00158.html
Re: [THIS] Fwd: [THAT] Re:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Tom Meunier wrote:
Why would it make any confusion at all? I honestly do not understand how
they can even find their way into the same folder (it sounds like you're
sorting into folders, I'm not sure though). I have half a dozen lists
dealing with nothing but messaging, an
* Michele Neylon::Blacknight Solutions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Why is List-Id not sufficient?
>
> It's only visible if you examine the header. Something in the subject
> line is a lot more visual
Pssst: "Subject:" is also a header.
--
Ralf Hildebrandt (i.A. des IT-Zentrum) [EMAIL PRO
On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 13:52 -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> --On Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:33 PM +0100 "Michele Neylon::Blacknight
> Solutions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Having a simple prefix in the subject line makes life a lot
> > easier.
>
> Precisely *how* does it make life "easie
On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 13:52 -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> --On Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:33 PM +0100 "Michele Neylon::Blacknight
> Solutions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Having a simple prefix in the subject line makes life a lot
> > easier.
>
> Precisely *how* does it make life "easie
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Tom Meunier wrote:
Well then people like you can continue to sort based on the list header.
Isn't that easy?
-Dan
Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Michele Neylon::Blacknight Solutions wrote:
Hear hear. By the way, the list is run on mailman, so it's defin
Bret Miller wrote:
Having a simple prefix in the subject line makes life a lot
easier.
Precisely *how* does it make life "easier"?
It makes life easier if you stuff a few related lists into a single
mailbox.
I don't get it. I only have the one mailbox and a dozen lists, and they
s
Hi,
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Michele Neylon::Blacknight Solutions wrote:
>
> [...]
> Did someone HAVE a good reason for why it's not happening? I can live
> with a four-character longer subject line.
Please check the archives. Someone else has
Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Michele Neylon::Blacknight Solutions wrote:
Hear hear. By the way, the list is run on mailman, so it's definitely
possible.
Nope. EZMLM.
Did someone HAVE a good reason for why it's not happening? I can live
with a four-character longer subj
> > Having a simple prefix in the subject line makes life a lot
> > easier.
>
> Precisely *how* does it make life "easier"?
It makes life easier if you stuff a few related lists into a single
mailbox.
>
> Why is List-Id not sufficient?
>
> > X-Mailer: Evolution 1.5.93
>
> Evo can recognize List-I
--On Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:33 PM +0100 "Michele Neylon::Blacknight
Solutions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Having a simple prefix in the subject line makes life a lot
easier.
Precisely *how* does it make life "easier"?
Why is List-Id not sufficient?
X-Mailer: Evolution 1.5.93
Evo can recogn
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Michele Neylon::Blacknight Solutions wrote:
Hear hear. By the way, the list is run on mailman, so it's definitely
possible.
Did someone HAVE a good reason for why it's not happening? I can live
with a four-character longer subject line.
I should observe that at least one
I am subscribed to a lot of different mailing lists which vary in
volume. Having a simple prefix in the subject line makes life a lot
easier.
Some lists allow users to choose whether they want this or not and for a
list discussing mail related issues I would have thought that something
like this wo
Quoting Jeff Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I certainly agree with a simple [SA} prefix so that the SA emails don't get
lost and deleted with all the other stuff I get. However, this came up a
few months ago and the SA list nazis decided that we must be too stupid not
to have programmed our email client
I thought it was Guns kill people, people kill puppies and OMG we need
to afirmitively abort the pope's poison jello.
Steve Cohen
Top posting to make girlz hot!
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Chris Santerre wrote:
> I figured is you were gonna start another group flame war, we should do it
> correctl
PM
>To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
>Subject: [SA-LIST] RE: Subject line
>
>
>Why not just do it then. If others want to, then they will follow. If
>not so be it.
>
>I will create a rule to move it along with the other(s) that I have to
>move email from this list.
>
>
: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: Subject line
I certainly agree with a simple [SA} prefix so that the SA emails don't
get
lost and deleted with all the other stuff I get. However, this came up a
few months ago and the SA list nazis decided that we must be too stupid
not
to
I certainly agree with a simple [SA} prefix so that the SA emails don't get
lost and deleted with all the other stuff I get. However, this came up a
few months ago and the SA list nazis decided that we must be too stupid not
to have programmed our email clients to automatically sort our email.
At 01:31 PM 9/14/2004, Roger E. Rustad, Jr. wrote:
I second that.
Often ppl on the list will (b)cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org, so we
need something like a [listserv name] subject header.
If you can find anything not covered in past threads, feel free to repost,
but please read the archives fi
I second that.
Often ppl on the list will (b)cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org, so we need
something like a [listserv name] subject header.
Roger
At 10:15 AM 9/14/2004, you wrote:
Would it be possible to have emails to this list have something such as
"[SA-LIST} Subject here" in the subject line
At 01:24 PM 9/14/2004, Tom Meunier wrote:
You're using Mozilla Thunderbird. Use the List-ID header / contains /
users.spamassassin.apache.org for your message rules, and it'll work fine.
At least until the next time it changes :P.
Predrag Lezaic wrote:
Would it be possible to have emails to this list have something such
as "[SA-LIST} Subject here" in the subject line for easier sorting of
the emails in folders? This is actually the first list am using that
doesn't have anything unique in the subject.
This has been discu
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