On 2018-02-21 (00:20 MST), Rupert Gallagher wrote:
>
> Beware that companies use a legal note in their signature as advised by their
> lawyers, and many individuals do the same, to inform the reader about laws
> that apply regardless of where or when you are reading their note.
Mostly they lie
You are wrong.
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On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 00:07, @lbutlr wrote:
> On 2018-02-20 (06:02 MST), Rupert Gallagher wrote: > > Do you have the legal
> right to do so? Absolutely. No one gets to inflict a contract on me.
> Especially not a entirely stupid nonsense thing that
Beware that companies use a legal note in their signature as advised by their
lawyers, and many individuals do the same, to inform the reader about laws that
apply regardless of where or when you are reading their note.
A mail from Europe is subject to data protection. It does not matter if you
On 2018-02-20 (06:02 MST), Rupert Gallagher wrote:
>
> Do you have the legal right to do so?
Absolutely.
No one gets to inflict a contract on me. Especially not a entirely stupid
nonsense thing that like that piece of crap that has no legal weight whatsoever.
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The matter is controversial. Lists have own defaults, who often abuse their
original aim of mere forwarding, especially when they redistribute from a
long-term archive. On the other hand, people have own default banners for all
outgoing correspondence, some with explicit reference to the applic
On 2/19/2018 7:15 PM, John Hardin wrote:
Kevin, can that be set to advisory rather than completely killed?
Agreed. I'll comment out the setting of the score to zero in
nonKAMrules.cf.
Do you have the legal right to do so?
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 00:23, @lbutlr wrote:
> On 2018-02-19 (09:57 MST), Paul Stead wrote: > ...@zeninternet.co.uk>
> I reject your terms. @zeninternet.co.uk>
On 18/02/2018 21:06, Kenneth Porter wrote:
Is there a blacklist for domains in the reply-to header?
I've noticed a lot of spam with no URL and mutating From but the
reply-to domain is always aliyun dot com. I want to add a site-wide
blacklist for that.
If you are willing to write a little SA
On Mon, 19 Feb 2018, Alex wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 3:20 PM, John Hardin wrote:
On Mon, 19 Feb 2018, Rupert Gallagher wrote:
Whatever you do, just do not ask others to blacklist Alibaba
Are those getting hits on SPOOFED_FREEM_REPTO_CHN?
Perhaps just bump the score for that loca
Hi,
On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 3:20 PM, John Hardin wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Feb 2018, Rupert Gallagher wrote:
>
>> Whatever you do, just do not ask others to blacklist Alibaba
>
>
> Are those getting hits on SPOOFED_FREEM_REPTO_CHN?
>
> Perhaps just bump the score for that locally?
KAM's rules are stil
On 2018-02-19 (09:57 MST), Paul Stead wrote:
>
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> in error, please notify us and remove it from your system.
>
> Zen Internet Limited may monitor email traffic data to manage billing, to
> handle customer enquiries an
David Jones skrev den 2018-02-19 22:35:
https://bz.apache.org/SpamAssassin
I have added a few domains over the past few months but my mail flow
isn't going to see many of the problem domains outside of the US like
those listed above.
https://www.google.dk/search?q=github+freemail
seems all i
On 02/19/2018 03:19 PM, John Hardin wrote:
On Mon, 19 Feb 2018, Kenneth Porter wrote:
On 2/19/2018 12:20 PM, John Hardin wrote:
Are those getting hits on SPOOFED_FREEM_REPTO_CHN?
No, not seeing that one. After enough training I eventually see it
land in Bayes. The RBLs are starting to flag
On Mon, 19 Feb 2018, Kenneth Porter wrote:
On 2/19/2018 12:20 PM, John Hardin wrote:
Are those getting hits on SPOOFED_FREEM_REPTO_CHN?
No, not seeing that one. After enough training I eventually see it land in
Bayes. The RBLs are starting to flag it.
X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=5.7 required
On 2/19/2018 12:20 PM, John Hardin wrote:
Are those getting hits on SPOOFED_FREEM_REPTO_CHN?
No, not seeing that one. After enough training I eventually see it land
in Bayes. The RBLs are starting to flag it.
X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=5.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_99,BAYES_999,
FREEMAIL_F
On Mon, 19 Feb 2018, Rupert Gallagher wrote:
Whatever you do, just do not ask others to blacklist Alibaba
Are those getting hits on SPOOFED_FREEM_REPTO_CHN?
Perhaps just bump the score for that locally?
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jhar...@impsec
I wanted you to see your proposed solution from a different point of view, and
I thought the quiz was spot on. As a number of you fell into the trap head
first, I am now horrified. Whatever you do, just do not ask others to blacklist
Alibaba, and do not blacklist yourself.
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I have a BZ raised for reply-to blacklist checking:
https://bz.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=7354
On 19/02/2018, 15:05, "Kevin A. McGrail" wrote:
On 2/18/2018 3:06 PM, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> Is there a blacklist for domains in the reply-to header?
>
> I've noticed a
On 2/18/2018 3:06 PM, Kenneth Porter wrote:
Is there a blacklist for domains in the reply-to header?
I've noticed a lot of spam with no URL and mutating From but the
reply-to domain is always aliyun dot com. I want to add a site-wide
blacklist for that.
To my knowledge it doesn't exist. I d
On 19/02/2018 10:00, Kenneth Porter wrote:
I have no clue what Rupert is on about. I just want something like
blacklist_from that uses the reply-to header. I thought it was a
simple technical question about how the config file directives map
onto the actual headers. I'm not asking for site pol
On 2/18/2018 5:09 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
On Monday 19 February 2018 at 01:55:45, Rupert Gallagher wrote:
Question time! You receive spam with a reply-to your own address. What do
you do?
I take it that this is now a rather different question that the one you
originally asked in this thread, w
You need coffee...
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On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 02:09, Antony Stone
wrote:
> On Monday 19 February 2018 at 01:55:45, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > Question
> time! You receive spam with a reply-to your own address. What do > you do? I
> take it that this is now a rather di
Antony Stone skrev den 2018-02-19 02:09:
C: you ask for advice
Good idea; let's see what other replies you get.
i hate mondays :=)
On Monday 19 February 2018 at 01:55:45, Rupert Gallagher wrote:
> Question time! You receive spam with a reply-to your own address. What do
> you do?
I take it that this is now a rather different question that the one you
originally asked in this thread, where the reply-to address was clearly no
Question time! You receive spam with a reply-to your own address. What do you
do?
A: you blacklist your own address
B: you ask around to do A for you
C: you ask for advice
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On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 22:39, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> --On Sunday, February 18, 2018 4:21 PM
Kenneth Porter skrev den 2018-02-18 22:39:
These emails are addressed to many of my web-page-only addresses that
I've never used to sign up for anything. They're clearly unsolicited.
blacklist_to *@spamtrap.example.org in replyto
force bayes learn on user in blacklist
maybe use blacklist_fro
--On Sunday, February 18, 2018 4:21 PM -0500 Rupert Gallagher
wrote:
It is not spam. You get it if you have an account with alibaba. Just
configure it.
These emails are addressed to many of my web-page-only addresses that I've
never used to sign up for anything. They're clearly unsolicited.
It is not spam. You get it if you have an account with alibaba. Just configure
it.
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On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 21:06, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> Is there a blacklist for domains in the reply-to header? I've noticed a lot
> of spam with no URL and mutating From but the rep
On 2/18/2018 3:06 PM, Kenneth Porter wrote:
Is there a blacklist for domains in the reply-to header?
I've noticed a lot of spam with no URL and mutating From but the
reply-to domain is always aliyun dot com. I want to add a site-wide
blacklist for that.
http://msbl.org
(I'm not associated
On 10/20/2014 11:40 AM, Michael Opdenacker wrote:
Greetings,
On 10/17/2014 06:37 PM, Bowie Bailey wrote:
On 10/17/2014 12:13 PM, Axb wrote:
On 10/17/2014 06:02 PM, Michael Opdenacker wrote:
Greetings,
I'm receiving a specific type of spam which From header is always like:
From: service by f
Greetings,
On 10/17/2014 06:37 PM, Bowie Bailey wrote:
> On 10/17/2014 12:13 PM, Axb wrote:
>> On 10/17/2014 06:02 PM, Michael Opdenacker wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> I'm receiving a specific type of spam which From header is always like:
>>>
>>> From: service by foobar
>>>
>>> These guys always
On 10/17/2014 12:13 PM, Axb wrote:
On 10/17/2014 06:02 PM, Michael Opdenacker wrote:
Greetings,
I'm receiving a specific type of spam which From header is always like:
From: service by foobar
These guys always use "by foobar" or " foobar" (not the real string,
don't want them to notice in ca
On 10/17/2014 06:02 PM, Michael Opdenacker wrote:
Greetings,
I'm receiving a specific type of spam which From header is always like:
From: service by foobar
These guys always use "by foobar" or " foobar" (not the real string,
don't want them to notice in case they read the list archives) in t
At 16:52 22-08-2011, Adam Katz wrote:
You can't do whois en-masse (I'd love that, but ...), so this means an
NS host lookup. To determine if they are authoritative, that's another
lookup (which I don't believe is necessary). A blocklist would also be
another lookup (if using a BL, it could chec
On 2011-08-23 7:38, Michael Scheidell wrote:
On 8/22/11 7:13 PM, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
I've recently observed a fair amount of spam from domains that all share
the same set of authoritative nameservers.
postfix:
check_sender_ns_access
SA has this already... and more.
read into URIDNSBL.pm an
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 01:38:08 -0400, Michael Scheidell wrote:
On 8/22/11 7:13 PM, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
I've recently observed a fair amount of spam from domains that all
share
the same set of authoritative nameservers.
postfix:
check_sender_ns_access
if outright blocking is wanted (its stup
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:13:03 -0700, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
I've recently observed a fair amount of spam from domains that all
share
the same set of authoritative nameservers.
1: make the plugin
2: add whitelist/skiplist could ideally be urlbl_skip_domain that are
used
commit code to sandbox
On 2011-08-23 2:21, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote:
On 08/22, Adam Katz wrote:
this not worth doing? I realize that the potential for collateral
damage is high, so I don't think it'd be wise to try and publish any
sort of data for such a plugin, but it seems like the plugin itself
might be occasi
On 8/22/11 7:13 PM, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
I've recently observed a fair amount of spam from domains that all share
the same set of authoritative nameservers.
postfix:
check_sender_ns_access
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On 08/22, Adam Katz wrote:
> > this not worth doing? I realize that the potential for collateral
> > damage is high, so I don't think it'd be wise to try and publish any
> > sort of data for such a plugin, but it seems like the plugin itself
> > might be occasionally useful...
>
> It might be use
On 08/22/2011 04:13 PM, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
> I've recently observed a fair amount of spam from domains that all
> share the same set of authoritative nameservers. It occurred to me
> that it might be nice to be able to blacklist mail from all domains
> sharing these nameservers, or maybe to sim
OK, i updated it with cpan after uninstalling.
But i had to change something in amavis-new, according to:
http://o-o-s.de/?p=2735
And now my sa-config is in /etc/mail/spamassassin.
Before, it was one level higher, which is really not important.
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On 17/09/10 11:21, franc wrote:
In that case, uninstalling Spamassassin from Apt (and then doing an
apt-get --autoremove to clear out Perl libs installed through apt/dpkg)
and re-installing with CPAN should be fine, and you'll be able to keep
it up to date.
I use aptitude, is this the
στις 17/09/2010 12:55 μμ, O/H Dominic Benson έγραψε:
On 17/09/10 10:42, franc wrote:
I doubt if this is possible on a VPS. At least the kernel is not
changeable
because coming from the host and is old enough (2.6.9). I guess an
update to
Lucid Lynx (10.04) will be if not unpossible but problem
> In that case, uninstalling Spamassassin from Apt (and then doing an
> apt-get --autoremove to clear out Perl libs installed through apt/dpkg)
> and re-installing with CPAN should be fine, and you'll be able to keep
> it up to date.
I use aptitude, is this the same then? Will this uninstall a
On 17/09/10 10:42, franc wrote:
I doubt if this is possible on a VPS. At least the kernel is not changeable
because coming from the host and is old enough (2.6.9). I guess an update to
Lucid Lynx (10.04) will be if not unpossible but problematic.
So if i use CPAN and keep my Hardy Heron, there w
>
> If you can, upgrade to Lucid. If you can't - and don't ever plan to
> upgrade the machine to a later Ubuntu release - then you could uninstall
> and then install via CPAN, but I would fairly strongly recommend against
> doing that if you have any intention of upgrading it in the future. In
This is just what i noticed: there is no Ubuntu package update after the
3.2.4-ubu1 related to:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/hardy/spamassassin
But how then to update? Can i use a package for Ubuntu Maverick (10.10) or
is this the absolute wrong way?
If you add hardy-backports to your a
Hi , in you sources.list you have 2 lines
#deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-backports main restricted
universe multiverse
#deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-backports main
restricted universe multiverse
Uncomment that lines and try to
apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
On tor 16 sep 2010 23:19:34 CEST, franc wrote
OK, i put now till i am sure there is no more FP the threshold on -, 5, 10,
15 so between 5 and 10 it is delivered into the spam-folder, and with 10 it
is bounced.
rejected please, eg dont accept and bouce
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Hi , in you sources.list you have 2 lines
#deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-backports main restricted
universe multiverse
#deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-backports main
restricted universe multiverse
Uncomment that lines and try to
apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
The next thing i just discovered is:
$final_bad_header_destiny = D_PASS;
with this rule, each Subject, containing 8-Bit, is sent to the quarantine
folder.
I didn't know this and now i am discovering many emails in the quarantine
which were no spam at all :-)
I commented it out:
# $final_bad_h
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 15:10 -0700, franc wrote:
> > I seriously hope you just mis-worded that. Bounce!? That would be after
> > *accepting* a message, and with spam generally will be bounced to a
> > forged, innocent bystander -- not the spammer. So please, tell me you
> > actually meant to say REJ
> I seriously hope you just mis-worded that. Bounce!? That would be after
> *accepting* a message, and with spam generally will be bounced to a
> forged, innocent bystander -- not the spammer. So please, tell me you
> actually meant to say REJECT. That is, not accept by the MX.
No, i didn't know
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 14:19 -0700, franc wrote:
> OK, i put now till i am sure there is no more FP the threshold on -, 5, 10,
> 15 so between 5 and 10 it is delivered into the spam-folder, and with 10 it
> is bounced.
>
> I think after a while i will know if i can put 2,5,6.31,10 or something like
OK, i put now till i am sure there is no more FP the threshold on -, 5, 10,
15 so between 5 and 10 it is delivered into the spam-folder, and with 10 it
is bounced.
I think after a while i will know if i can put 2,5,6.31,10 or something like
this.
Thank you for the hints!
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On tor 16 sep 2010 20:37:07 CEST, franc wrote
yes, spamassassin is the only thing to upgrade at the moment.
I am running Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron) and i installed spamassassin with
aptitude.
then i will suggest to try here
https://launchpad.net/hardy-backports
make a request for upgrade a
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 11:32 -0700, franc wrote:
> > ... Do you train *both*, spam *and* ham? Any chance these
> > have been trained incorrectly before? What Bayes score do they actually
> > get? The X-Spam-Status header would be sufficient to see.
> >
> > The few lines of 'sa-learn --dump magic' w
> You're probably too late, Matus: you've got into his trash folder... ;)
> From: Matus UHLAR - fantomas [mailto:uh...@fantomas.sk]
> > > What if a friend of yours sends you an email asking to lend your
> > > chronometer...
--^
haha, this one is good!
:-)
But anyway, i didn't put an "i" t
> are spamassassin the only thing you like to upgrade ?
>
> what os are you running ?, and what package managedment rpm ?, cpan ?,
> lastly dont mix cpan with rpm
yes, spamassassin is the only thing to upgrade at the moment.
I am running Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron) and i installed spamassass
> ... Do you train *both*, spam *and* ham? Any chance these
> have been trained incorrectly before? What Bayes score do they actually
> get? The X-Spam-Status header would be sufficient to see.
>
> The few lines of 'sa-learn --dump magic' would be good, too. Oh, and you
> are training Bayes as th
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 03:26 -0700, Franc Walter(?) wrote:
> > SA goes farther than your simple idea. Have a look at how Bayes works, and
> > all the available SA plugins.
>
> I trained SA since months with all those chronometer-zeitmesser-spam and
> only 5% is now set to spam.
> I want to get rid
On tor 16 sep 2010 18:08:46 CEST, franc wrote
http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/hardy/spamassassin
But how then to update? Can i use a package for Ubuntu Maverick (10.10) or
is this the absolute wrong way?
ask a ubuntu maintainer, make a request for this in lunchpad seems to
me next step
if yo
On tor 16 sep 2010 17:47:12 CEST, franc wrote
But before you go trying to play whack-a-mole
with lists of poison-pill words (and deal with the FPs that result), you
should try upgrading to the latest release.
I would like to update spamassassin, but how?
42, na not this time, tell more on h
On tor 16 sep 2010 17:41:05 CEST, John Hardin wrote
that result), you should try upgrading to the latest release. 3.2.4
is several years stale and is not getting any rule updates. Its
performance _will_ deteriorate over time as the nature of spam
changes.
agree, but if the host os still h
On tor 16 sep 2010 13:59:39 CEST, Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote
want to get rid of it immediately.
Well, you may try putting this into /etc/spamassassin/local.cf, then:
describe FORBWORDS Matches some forbidden words (dangerous)
body __FORBWORDS /\W(?:viagra|chronometer|zeitmesser)/i
> Unfortunately Canonical probably is _not_ going to provide official SA
> 3.3.x packages for Ubuntu 8.x...
This is just what i noticed: there is no Ubuntu package update after the
3.2.4-ubu1 related to:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/hardy/spamassassin
But how then to update? Can i use a packa
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, franc wrote:
But before you go trying to play whack-a-mole with lists of poison-pill
words (and deal with the FPs that result), you should try upgrading to
the latest release.
I would like to update spamassassin, but how?
The rule for reliability is "update the way you
> But before you go trying to play whack-a-mole
> with lists of poison-pill words (and deal with the FPs that result), you
> should try upgrading to the latest release.
I would like to update spamassassin, but how?
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, franc wrote:
i don't know spamassassin not very well, i am using 3.2.4 on Ubuntu 8.04
LTS.
I need a textfile where i can put in blacklist-words like "Viagra",
"Chronometer", "Zeitmesser" and so on, if an email has one of this
words, this email should directly put to the
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, franc wrote:
I need a textfile where i can put in blacklist-words like "Viagra",
"Chronometer", "Zeitmesser" and so on, if an email has one of this
words, this email should directly put to the "Spam"-folder.
Are you sure you want to embark in a project like that and will
You're probably too late, Matus: you've got into his trash folder... ;)
> From: Matus UHLAR - fantomas [mailto:uh...@fantomas.sk]
> > > What if a friend of yours sends you an email asking to lend your
> > > chronometer...
--^
> > This is very unlikely because i have none. So even if he aske
> > What if a friend of yours sends you an email asking to lend your
> > chronometer...
>
> This is very unlikely because i have none. So even if he asked, it were in
> vain :-)
>
> > SA goes farther than your simple idea. Have a look at how Bayes works, and
> > all the available SA plugins.
On
> > SA goes farther than your simple idea. Have a look at how Bayes
> works, and
> > all the available SA plugins.
>
> I trained SA since months with all those chronometer-zeitmesser-spam
> and
> only 5% is now set to spam.
> I want to get rid of it immediately.
Well, you may try putting this int
franc wrote:
>
>> You may setup a regexp rule in the /etc/local.cf file of your SA
>> installation
>
> Could you give me an example, or where to find one? In the local.cf i
> don't find RegExp-sections.
body FRANCS_RULE /regexp/
/Per Jessen, Zürich
On 2010-09-16 12:29, franc wrote:
You may setup a regexp rule in the /etc/local.cf file of your SA
installation
Could you give me an example, or where to find one? In the local.cf i don't
find RegExp-sections.
see http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/WritingRules
> You may setup a regexp rule in the /etc/local.cf file of your SA
> installation
Could you give me an example, or where to find one? In the local.cf i don't
find RegExp-sections.
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>
> What if a friend of yours sends you an email asking to lend your
> chronometer...
This is very unlikely because i have none. So even if he asked, it were in
vain :-)
> SA goes farther than your simple idea. Have a look at how Bayes works, and
> all the available SA plugins.
I trained SA s
> You may setup a regexp rule in the /etc/local.cf file of your SA
> installation, but a simple rule like the one you suggest may easily yield
> FPs (False Positives, ie: non-spam messages may get into your trashcan).
>
> What if a friend of yours sends you an email asking to lend your
> chronomet
> Hello,
>
> i don't know spamassassin not very well, i am using 3.2.4 on Ubuntu
> 8.04
> LTS.
>
> I need a textfile where i can put in blacklist-words like "Viagra",
> "Chronometer", "Zeitmesser" and so on, if an email has one of this
> words,
> this email should directly put to the "Spam"-folde
> Perkel wrote:
> What if your server is compromised or your DNS is hijacked? I'm doing
> the same thing Postini is doing, just better. Besides, if you keep your
> email servers and backup servers online then good email will never reach
> my server.
>
> And - I'm putting this out for those who a
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008, mouss wrote:
Marc Perkel wrote:
And - I'm putting this out for those who are interested. You are not
interested so this doesn't affect you.
Mark,
This debate can continue until the end of time (assuming time has an end
;-p). How about creating a dedicated mailing li
Marc Perkel wrote:
And - I'm putting this out for those who are interested. You are not
interested so this doesn't affect you.
Mark,
This debate can continue until the end of time (assuming time has an end
;-p). How about creating a dedicated mailing list?
Aaron Wolfe wrote:
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Marc Perkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You continue to miss the point, or maybe you just don't want to understand it.
Sending my client's email to your servers is irresponsible at best and
possibly even a violation of contract or illegal
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Marc Perkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Ken A wrote:
>>
>> Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
>>>
>>> * Ken A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>
> How? He tempfails all mails.
Are you asking how sending your customer, or company email off someplace
you don't co
Ken A wrote:
Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
* Ken A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
How? He tempfails all mails.
Are you asking how sending your customer, or company email off
someplace you don't control might be a security risk?
It's in no way more dangerous than using Postini...
Have you compared Pos
Marc Perkel wrote:
Ken A wrote:
Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
* Robert Schetterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Project Tarbaby helps you reduce spam and helps us build our
blacklist. This is done by adding a fake MX record to your existing
MX lists
thats could be seen as a security risk
cause in rare
Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
* Ken A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
How? He tempfails all mails.
Are you asking how sending your customer, or company email off someplace
you don't control might be a security risk?
It's in no way more dangerous than using Postini...
Have you compared Postini's contract
Marc Perkel wrote:
Graham Murray wrote:
Because some senders erroneously treat a tempfail as a permfail (or even
worse as a successful delivery) and do not retry.
If that were the case then they already would have failed before getting
to tarbaby as your main server is out. If they are on tar
* Ken A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> How? He tempfails all mails.
>
> Are you asking how sending your customer, or company email off someplace
> you don't control might be a security risk?
It's in no way more dangerous than using Postini...
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Ken A wrote:
Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
* Robert Schetterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Project Tarbaby helps you reduce spam and helps us build our
blacklist. This is done by adding a fake MX record to your existing
MX lists
thats could be seen as a security risk
cause in rare cases you may recie
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Marc Perkel wrote:
If that were the case then they already would have failed before getting
to tarbaby as your main server is out.
Just a stylistic note: "tarbaby" is a poor term to use if you want to
reassure people that your service will not cause any loss of email. The
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Marc Perkel wrote:
Robert Schetterer wrote:
thats could be seen as a security risk
cause in rare cases you may recieve legal mails
i.e at an network outage etc
We don't actually receive and emails. Everything is turned away with a
451.
So you say.
Marc, the point
Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
* Robert Schetterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Project Tarbaby helps you reduce spam and helps us build our blacklist.
This is done by adding a fake MX record to your existing MX lists
thats could be seen as a security risk
cause in rare cases you may recieve legal mails
i.
Graham Murray wrote:
Ralf Hildebrandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
* Robert Schetterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
thats could be seen as a security risk
cause in rare cases you may recieve legal mails
i.e at an network outage etc
How? He tempfails all mails.
Because some send
Robert Schetterer wrote:
Marc Perkel schrieb:
Hi everyone,
I'm launching a free spam reduction service to help build up my
blacklists. It involves adding a fake high numbered MX record to your
existing MX list that points to one of our servers. We always return
a 451 error but we have a ve
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 10:21 +0100, Graham Murray wrote:
> Ralf Hildebrandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > * Robert Schetterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> thats could be seen as a security risk
> >> cause in rare cases you may recieve legal mails
> >> i.e at an network outage etc
> >
I think jus
* Ralf Hildebrandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Because some senders erroneously treat a tempfail as a permfail (or even
> > worse as a successful delivery) and do not retry.
>
> Well, idjuts I say. They won't even pass greylisting on the primary or
> the secondary MX, so why bother?
OTOH if all my
On Tuesday 26 August 2008 11:12:23 Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
> * Robert Schetterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Project Tarbaby helps you reduce spam and helps us build our blacklist.
> > This is done by adding a fake MX record to your existing MX lists
> >
> > thats could be seen as a security risk
> >
> Ralf Hildebrandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > * Robert Schetterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> thats could be seen as a security risk
> >> cause in rare cases you may recieve legal mails
> >> i.e at an network outage etc
> >
> > How? He tempfails all mails.
On 26.08.08 10:21, Graham Murray wr
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