On Friday, May 12th 2006 at 18:37 -0700, quoth Marc Perkel:
=>So - has anyone here actually sued a spammer? I'm seriously considering it. I
=>hooked up with a lawyer today who specializes in it and I do front end spam
=>filtering for about 500 domains. I'm wondering, is there any reason why I
=>sh
* jdow wrote (14/05/06 02:09):
> From: "Gary W. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> On another paw, Craig, do consider who is the injured party. Marc is
>> not. The final recipient, the addressee, is an injured party for the
>> spam in her mailbox. The addressee's ISP is also an injured party due
>>
Nigel Frankcom wrote:
One gets the idea that many in this thread have had little experience
of litigation. I don't know about the US, but in the UK, you're
talking *many* months and much paperwork. That being said. I'm so up
for suing the SOB's ... hit em where it hurts.
A small addendum, onc
One gets the idea that many in this thread have had little experience
of litigation. I don't know about the US, but in the UK, you're
talking *many* months and much paperwork. That being said. I'm so up
for suing the SOB's ... hit em where it hurts.
A small addendum, once a private prosecution is
Scott Warren wrote:
You ask this like you know who the spammers are and where to find
them. If this is the case and spammers are that easy to find, why are
we not reading more articles like the one where a spammer in the
former Soviet Republic was found beaten to death in his apartment??
S
jdow wrote:
From: "Marc Perkel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
mouss wrote:
Rick Measham wrote:
Marc Perkel wrote:
... I do front end spam filtering for about 500 domains.
> ... I'm wondering if I
make enough money suing spammers I could give my services away for
free just to get the spam to sue fo
jdow wrote:
From: "Marc Perkel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
jdow wrote:
Well, Marc would have a really hard time proving HE was injured by the
spam. Therefore seeing would be annoyingly unproductive for HIM. But
the ISPs forced to hire him could sue and win. (Collecting might be
quite another kettle
You ask this like you know who the spammers are and where to find
them. If this is the case and spammers are that easy to find, why
are we not reading more articles like the one where a spammer in the
former Soviet Republic was found beaten to death in his apartment??
Sure, sue them if you
From: "Marc Perkel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
mouss wrote:
Rick Measham wrote:
Marc Perkel wrote:
... I do front end spam filtering for about 500 domains.
> ... I'm wondering if I
make enough money suing spammers I could give my services away for
free just to get the spam to sue for.
Someone te
From: "Marc Perkel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
jdow wrote:
Well, Marc would have a really hard time proving HE was injured by the
spam. Therefore seeing would be annoyingly unproductive for HIM. But
the ISPs forced to hire him could sue and win. (Collecting might be
quite another kettle of French frie
From: "Gary W. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On another paw, Craig, do consider who is the injured party. Marc is
not. The final recipient, the addressee, is an injured party for the
spam in her mailbox. The addressee's ISP is also an injured party due
to the (vastly) increased mail volume her serv
So a good rule of thumb is that since I'm legit, I follow CAN-SPAM.
Real spammers have to contend with state laws too.
Rob
Robert Braver wrote:
On Saturday, May 13, 2006, 4:55:48 PM, Bronto wrote:
B> I thought CAN-SPAM preempted all state's laws.(?)
CAN-SPAM does not preempt state laws to th
Kai Schaetzl wrote:
Craig McLean wrote on Sat, 13 May 2006 14:18:31 +0100:
http://spamlegalaction.pbwiki.com/
Rules in CA might be a little different, but the principle is likely to
be the same..
Just that you don't get hold of the "nasty" spammers. And the "nice"
spammers are eas
mouss wrote:
Rick Measham wrote:
Marc Perkel wrote:
... I do front end spam filtering for about 500 domains.
> ... I'm wondering if I
make enough money suing spammers I could give my services away for
free just to get the spam to sue for.
Someone tell me if I'm nuts?
To be completely cy
Rick Measham wrote:
Marc Perkel wrote:
... I do front end spam filtering for about 500 domains.
> ... I'm wondering if I
make enough money suing spammers I could give my services away for
free just to get the spam to sue for.
Someone tell me if I'm nuts?
To be completely cynical, you're nu
I thought CAN-SPAM preempted all state's laws.(?)
Robert Braver wrote:
On Saturday, May 13, 2006, 8:46:46 AM, Rob McEwen wrote:
RMPS> Add all this up and I'm quite sure that they had to be
RMPS> violating that law in Georgia.
I may have missed something - what would be violative of CAN-SPAM
an
jdow wrote:
Well, Marc would have a really hard time proving HE was injured by the
spam. Therefore seeing would be annoyingly unproductive for HIM. But
the ISPs forced to hire him could sue and win. (Collecting might be
quite another kettle of French fried worms.)
I don't have to prove injur
Craig McLean wrote on Sat, 13 May 2006 14:18:31 +0100:
> http://spamlegalaction.pbwiki.com/
>
> Rules in CA might be a little different, but the principle is likely to
> be the same..
Just that you don't get hold of the "nasty" spammers. And the "nice"
spammers are easily blocked.
Kai
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>
> On another paw, Craig, do consider who is the injured party. Marc is
> not. The final recipient, the addressee, is an injured party for the
> spam in her mailbox. The addressee's ISP is also an injured party due
> to the (vastly) increased mail volume her servers must handle. They
> have a to
From: "Rob McEwen (PowerView Systems)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Some of the state laws in the U.S. are stronger than the Federal Government's
laws.
In Georgia where I live, there is a pretty good law for this type of thing:
http://www.gov.state.ga.us/press/2005/press765.shtml
Now, interestingly,
From: "Craig McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Marc Perkel wrote:
So - has anyone here actually sued a spammer? I'm seriously considering
it. I hooked up with a lawyer today who specializes in it and I do front
end spam filtering for about 500 domains. I'
Some of the state laws in the U.S. are stronger than the Federal Government's
laws.
In Georgia where I live, there is a pretty good law for this type of thing:
http://www.gov.state.ga.us/press/2005/press765.shtml
Now, interestingly, I've recently taken on several different law firms as mail
ho
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Marc Perkel wrote:
> So - has anyone here actually sued a spammer? I'm seriously considering
> it. I hooked up with a lawyer today who specializes in it and I do front
> end spam filtering for about 500 domains. I'm wondering, is there any
> reason why
: "John Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Marc Perkel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "SpamAssassin Users"
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 18:51
Subject: Re: Suing Spammers
If it works, let me know ... and let me know the name of your lawyer :-)
Cuz, I'd jump on
Rick Measham wrote:
Marc Perkel wrote:
... I do front end spam filtering for about 500 domains.
> ... I'm wondering if I
make enough money suing spammers I could give my services away for
free just to get the spam to sue for.
Someone tell me if I'm nuts?
To be completely cynical, you're
Marc Perkel wrote:
... I do front
end spam filtering for about 500 domains.
> ... I'm wondering if I
make enough money suing spammers I could give my services away for free
just to get the spam to sue for.
Someone tell me if I'm nuts?
To be completely cynical, you're nuts.
If you're in th
If it works, let me know ... and let me know the name of your lawyer :-)
Cuz, I'd jump on that bandwagon in a heart beat...
On May 12, 2006, at 18:37, Marc Perkel wrote:
So - has anyone here actually sued a spammer? I'm seriously
considering it. I hooked up with a lawyer today who specialize
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