RE: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

2004-09-07 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Tuesday, September 07, 2004 11:34 AM -0700 Gary Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I can contest to that. We get 128 IP's with our T1 and have made multiple request for RDNS. We re-request about every month... Who's the ISP? (Just so the rest of us know who to avoid.) Feel free to cc their

Re: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

2004-09-07 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 11:34:39AM -0700, Gary Smith wrote: > I can contest to that. We get 128 IP's with our T1 and have made multiple > request for RDNS. We re-request about every month... Not to be picky, but this isn't really the right place to discuss whether or not SPF is useful or not.

RE: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

2004-09-07 Thread Gary Smith
I can contest to that. We get 128 IP's with our T1 and have made multiple request for RDNS. We re-request about every month... From: Chris Blaise [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 9/7/2004 10:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: SpamAssassin 3.0.

RE: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

2004-09-07 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > In terms of a reverse record, you can only have ONE PTR per ip, on a mail > server that may handle hundreds of domains. SPF is *certainly* valid in > this regard, as sort of a finer-grained PTR. IIRC, you can have multiple PTRs per IP b

RE: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

2004-09-07 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Chris Blaise wrote: In terms of a reverse record, you can only have ONE PTR per ip, on a mail server that may handle hundreds of domains. SPF is *certainly* valid in this regard, as sort of a finer-grained PTR. -Dan Another reason for SPF/SenderID vs. PTR records is unf

RE: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

2004-09-07 Thread Chris Blaise
Another reason for SPF/SenderID vs. PTR records is unfortunately while technically possible to delegate, many ISPs don't allow their customers to manage the reverse records. Chris

RE: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

2004-09-07 Thread Randal, Phil
Spam Admin wrote: >> http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/08/31/HNspammerstudy_1.html > >> Did you read the end of the article? SPF prevents forgery, not spam. >> It's still valuable even if spammers use it. > > Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but how does this differ > from maintaining valid

Re: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

2004-09-07 Thread Spam Admin
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/08/31/HNspammerstudy_1.html > Did you read the end of the article? SPF prevents forgery, not spam. It's > still valuable even if spammers use it. Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but how does this differ from maintaining valid forward and reverse DNS en

Re: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

2004-09-06 Thread Kai Schaetzl
sorry, missed to comment on this release earlier. Installed over RC2 on one of our backup mail servers. No problems, just works (together with MailScanner). Great :-) Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com IE-Center: http://i

Re: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

2004-09-04 Thread Daniel Quinlan
John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why bother with [SPF]? > > http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/08/31/HNspammerstudy_1.html We knew about this a long time ago. It's still a useful heuristic for SpamAssassin, although there are indeed better ones. In the future, it may become more us

Re: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

2004-09-04 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 11:49:30PM -0800, John Andersen wrote: > Why bother with this? > http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/08/31/HNspammerstudy_1.html Because SPF is a "sender reputation system", not an anti-spam system? Because it means the spammers that use SPF aren't forging someone else's em

Re: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

2004-09-04 Thread Michael W Cocke
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 23:49:30 -0800, you wrote: >On Friday 03 September 2004 09:17 pm, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > >>  - SpamAssassin now includes support for SPF (the Sender Policy Framework, >>    http://spf.pobox.com/). > >Why bother with this? > >http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/08/31/HNspammers

Re: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

2004-09-04 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Friday, September 03, 2004 11:49 PM -0800 John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why bother with this? http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/08/31/HNspammerstudy_1.html Did you read the end of the article? SPF prevents forgery, not spam. It's still valuable even if spammers use it.

Re: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

2004-09-04 Thread John Andersen
On Friday 03 September 2004 09:17 pm, Theo Van Dinter wrote: >  - SpamAssassin now includes support for SPF (the Sender Policy Framework, >    http://spf.pobox.com/). Why bother with this? http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/08/31/HNspammerstudy_1.html -- _ J