Re: Problems with BCCing from spammers

2013-08-15 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 09:53 -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > it is *not* a bug. It's not SA's task to split a msg to multiple rcpts. > > Your glue (hack) or MTA (best) should do this. > > It IS a bug since the software is not acting according to how it's > documented or expected. That is the d

Re: Problems with BCCing from spammers

2013-08-15 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Wed, 2013-08-14 at 15:20 -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > I take it by the: > > a) lack of usable responses > b) responses NOT claiming this ISN'T a bug > c) responses tacitly acknowledging this is an "Oh crap they forgot about > BCCs when they wrote it but I don't have the balls to publicly ca

Re: Problems with BCCing from spammers

2013-08-15 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: On 8/15/2013 12:14 AM, Axb wrote: On 08/15/2013 12:20 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > I take it by the: > > a) lack of usable responses > b) responses NOT claiming this ISN'T a bug it is *not* a bug. It's not SA's task to split a msg to multip

Re: Problems with BCCing from spammers

2013-08-15 Thread Daniel McDonald
On 8/15/13 11:53 AM, "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > On 8/15/2013 12:14 AM, Axb wrote: >> On 08/15/2013 12:20 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> >>> I take it by the: >>> >>> a) lack of usable responses >>> b) responses NOT claiming this ISN'T a bug >> >> it is *not* a bug. It's not SA's task to spl

Re: Problems with BCCing from spammers

2013-08-15 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
On 8/15/2013 9:38 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 14.08.13 15:20, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: I am using spamass-milter to process received mail. do you use "-u user" option? spamas-milter uses that user's config when the mail goes to multiple recipients. Isn't that user by any chance the one

Re: Problems with BCCing from spammers

2013-08-15 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
On 8/15/2013 12:14 AM, Axb wrote: On 08/15/2013 12:20 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: I take it by the: a) lack of usable responses b) responses NOT claiming this ISN'T a bug it is *not* a bug. It's not SA's task to split a msg to multiple rcpts. Your glue (hack) or MTA (best) should do this.

Re: Problems with BCCing from spammers

2013-08-15 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
On 8/15/2013 12:29 AM, Axb wrote: On 08/15/2013 12:20 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Suggestions? http://www.snertsoft.com/sendmail/milter-spamc/ Spam:recipient-address value * (FRIEND or HATER are recognised) Spam:recipient-domain value * (FRIEND or HATER are recognised) Spam:reci

Re: Problems with BCCing from spammers

2013-08-15 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 14.08.13 15:20, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: I am using spamass-milter to process received mail. do you use "-u user" option? spamas-milter uses that user's config when the mail goes to multiple recipients. Isn't that user by any chance the one in all_spam_to list? I guess if you don't specify t

Re: Problems with BCCing from spammers

2013-08-15 Thread Axb
On 08/15/2013 12:20 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Suggestions? http://www.snertsoft.com/sendmail/milter-spamc/ Spam:recipient-address value * (FRIEND or HATER are recognised) Spam:recipient-domain value * (FRIEND or HATER are recognised) Spam:recipient@ value * (FRIEND or HATE

Re: Problems with BCCing from spammers

2013-08-15 Thread Axb
On 08/15/2013 12:20 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: I take it by the: a) lack of usable responses b) responses NOT claiming this ISN'T a bug it is *not* a bug. It's not SA's task to split a msg to multiple rcpts. Your glue (hack) or MTA (best) should do this.

Re: Problems with BCCing from spammers

2013-08-14 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, David B Funk wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, John Hardin wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: {snip} Unfortunately it appears spamass-milter is hardcoded to scan at that point in the process. I don't think there's much SA can do about it. It's not so mu

Re: Problems with BCCing from spammers

2013-08-14 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, John Hardin wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: 1) WTF is pastebin? (not you, the other guy) pastebin.com, a way to share files for public review. It's a far better way to share spamples than posting them to the list, but be aware the files *do* expire

Re: Problems with BCCing from spammers

2013-08-14 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: 1) WTF is pastebin? (not you, the other guy) pastebin.com, a way to share files for public review. It's a far better way to share spamples than posting them to the list, but be aware the files *do* expire. Upload a spample to pastebin.com and pos

Re: Problems with BCCing from spammers

2013-08-14 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
1) WTF is pastebin? (not you, the other guy) 2) This is mail received from the Internet for users on the mailserver. Users on the mailserver transmit mail from their mail clients through a completely different server I am using spamass-milter to process received mail. This is a Sendmail se

Re: Problems with BCCing from spammers

2013-08-14 Thread Axb
On 08/14/2013 08:08 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Hi All, I'm having a lot of problem with spammers who are sending spams with a To: of a user who is NOT in my all_spam_to list and a BCC: listing a user IN the all_spam_list. Usually the BCC's list multiple users, I guess on the theory that the

Re: Problems with BCCing from spammers

2013-08-14 Thread Benny Pedersen
Ted Mittelstaedt skrev den 2013-08-14 20:08: Suggestions? pastebin ? only local mta sees bcc, when its sent its removed