Re: Ideas for blocking 'list' spam

2015-09-01 Thread Olivier Coutu
Le 2015-09-01 11:34, Alex a écrit : Hi all, I'm having a problem with "buy my list" spam and hoped someone could help me with ideas of how to best block them. Here's an example: http://pastebin.com/01C1DDmq Even a few days later, and the sending IP isn't blacklisted anywhere. I have a couple

Re: Ideas for blocking 'list' spam

2015-09-01 Thread Kris Deugau
Alex wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm having a problem with "buy my list" spam and hoped someone could > help me with ideas of how to best block them. > > Here's an example: > > http://pastebin.com/01C1DDmq > > Even a few days later, and the sending IP isn't blacklisted anywhere. > I have a couple of b

Re: Ideas for blocking 'list' spam

2015-09-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.09.2015 um 17:34 schrieb Alex: Hi all, I'm having a problem with "buy my list" spam and hoped someone could help me with ideas of how to best block them. Here's an example: http://pastebin.com/01C1DDmq Even a few days later, and the sending IP isn't blacklisted anywhere. I have a coup

DOJ claims CryptoLocker 100% ineffective now - was Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker

2014-07-15 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
FYI http://www.crn.com/news/security/300073406/doj-cryptolocker-trojan-is-now-out-of-commission.htm?cid=nl_sec#

Re: Obfuscated Windows excecutables (was Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker)

2014-07-12 Thread Philip Prindeville
On Jul 10, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Joe Acquisto-j4 wrote: On 7/10/2014 at 3:35 PM, "David F. Skoll" wrote: >> On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 12:25:50 -0700 >> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> >>> Fundamentally I think the problem is with attachments. >> >> No, the problem is not with attachments. An attachme

Re: Obfuscated Windows excecutables (was Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker)

2014-07-10 Thread Joe Acquisto-j4
>>> On 7/10/2014 at 3:35 PM, "David F. Skoll" wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 12:25:50 -0700 > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> Fundamentally I think the problem is with attachments. > > No, the problem is not with attachments. An attachment actually included > in an email is no more dangerous than a

Re: Obfuscated Windows excecutables (was Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker)

2014-07-10 Thread David F. Skoll
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 12:25:50 -0700 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Fundamentally I think the problem is with attachments. No, the problem is not with attachments. An attachment actually included in an email is no more dangerous than an attachment downloaded via a link. Email attachments are far too c

Re: Obfuscated Windows excecutables (was Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker)

2014-07-10 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
On 7/10/2014 12:12 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2014, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: On 7/10/2014 8:26 AM, David F. Skoll wrote: On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 17:44:26 -0700 (PDT) John Hardin wrote: > I'm not excusing their approach, but I'm saying there are a lot of > sources of real-world friction

Re: Obfuscated Windows excecutables (was Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker)

2014-07-10 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: On 7/10/2014 8:26 AM, David F. Skoll wrote: On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 17:44:26 -0700 (PDT) John Hardin wrote: > I'm not excusing their approach, but I'm saying there are a lot of > sources of real-world friction that lead to suboptimal solutions like

Re: Obfuscated Windows excecutables (was Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker)

2014-07-10 Thread Dave Pooser
On 7/10/14, 1:43 PM, "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: >And when victim of the phish clicks on the SSL link then the browser >sends out alarm bells that the SSL certificate is compromised and not to >go there, eh? If we could rely on users to not click right through that SSL warning, we would be living

Re: Obfuscated Windows excecutables (was Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker)

2014-07-10 Thread David F. Skoll
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:43:21 -0700 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > SO I think that using PGP was the right course of action here. Yes, of course. But they should supply the PGP *software* using a separate delivery mechanism from the PGP-encrypted *payload*. Encouraging people to rename and run execut

Re: Obfuscated Windows excecutables (was Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker)

2014-07-10 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
On 7/10/2014 8:26 AM, David F. Skoll wrote: On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 17:44:26 -0700 (PDT) John Hardin wrote: I'm not excusing their approach, but I'm saying there are a lot of sources of real-world friction that lead to suboptimal solutions like this. I expect the desire to avoid requiring install

Re: Obfuscated Windows excecutables (was Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker)

2014-07-10 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Although from the pro-gunners out there now we will hear the "software doesn't kill people, users kill people" arguments claiming it's not Symantec's fault Please do not go there. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jh

Re: Obfuscated Windows excecutables (was Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker)

2014-07-10 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 7/10/2014 12:31 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: You didn't read your own code of ethics. It states if you have a bias, you disclose it. David HAD a bias in his original post and DID NOT disclose it. He DID subsequently disclose that bias AFTER I had called him on it and I commend him for it. T

Re: Obfuscated Windows excecutables (was Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker)

2014-07-10 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
You didn't read your own code of ethics. It states if you have a bias, you disclose it. David HAD a bias in his original post and DID NOT disclose it. He DID subsequently disclose that bias AFTER I had called him on it and I commend him for it. This is the problem with codes of ethics - it's e

Re: Obfuscated Windows excecutables (was Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker)

2014-07-10 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
On 7/9/2014 5:18 PM, David F. Skoll wrote: On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 14:44:27 -0700 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: David DID NOT say that. He said that "he was shocked to discover" Why are you assuming he is under NDA or he is an employee of this company? Let me clarify the situation: 1) I'm the owne

Re: Obfuscated Windows excecutables (was Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker)

2014-07-10 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
I believe strongly that ALL IT admins would be well guided by reading the SAGE ethics guide http://www.pccc.com/base.cgim?template=sage_code_of_ethics Can't recommend it highly enough and I think it would guide well in this gray areas on how to handle things. I didn't like that a poster wi

Re: Obfuscated Windows excecutables (was Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker)

2014-07-10 Thread David F. Skoll
On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 17:44:26 -0700 (PDT) John Hardin wrote: > I'm not excusing their approach, but I'm saying there are a lot of > sources of real-world friction that lead to suboptimal solutions like > this. I expect the desire to avoid requiring installation (and > maintenance!) of PGP/GPG by th

Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker

2014-07-10 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 7/8/2014 10:41 PM, David F. Skoll wrote: On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 21:03:35 -0400 "Kevin A. McGrail" wrote: So this sounds like you are searching the entire email for this string which just sounds inefficient especially if they use some big attachments. It's not too bad because the regex is simp

Re: Obfuscated Windows excecutables (was Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker)

2014-07-09 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > On 7/9/2014 11:37 AM, Mauricio Tavares wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>> >>> >>> First of all why do people insist on hiding names of companies that >>> do stuff like this? It just makes it look

Re: Obfuscated Windows excecutables (was Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker)

2014-07-09 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 9 Jul 2014, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: You are an administrator. YOU ARE PAID BY CLUELESS USERS TO PROTECT THEM AND THEIR DATA, DAMMIT. ...unless it involves some actual, you know, effort on their part. And in this instance, Large DP Company *is* doing something proactive to protec

Re: Obfuscated Windows excecutables (was Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker)

2014-07-09 Thread David F. Skoll
On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 14:44:27 -0700 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > David DID NOT say that. He said that "he was shocked to discover" > Why are you assuming he is under NDA or he is an employee of this > company? Let me clarify the situation: 1) I'm the owner of Roaring Penguin, so my boss is unlikel

Re: Obfuscated Windows excecutables (was Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker)

2014-07-09 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
On 7/9/2014 11:37 AM, Mauricio Tavares wrote: On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: First of all why do people insist on hiding names of companies that do stuff like this? It just makes it look like your manufacturing an event that doesn't exist, it destroys your credibili

Re: Obfuscated Windows excecutables (was Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker)

2014-07-09 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > First of all why do people insist on hiding names of companies that > do stuff like this? It just makes it look like your manufacturing > an event that doesn't exist, it destroys your credibility. > You mean besides NDAs and polici

Re: Obfuscated Windows excecutables (was Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker)

2014-07-09 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
First of all why do people insist on hiding names of companies that do stuff like this? It just makes it look like your manufacturing an event that doesn't exist, it destroys your credibility. Secondly, if you think that this is an example of "badness" on Windows security best practices you sim

Obfuscated Windows excecutables (was Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker)

2014-07-09 Thread David F. Skoll
On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 05:44:34 +0200 Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > If you deliberately try to sneak past sensible security measures, you > should not be surprised to be blocked. The attempt by an honest user > to disguise any $file (he did it on purpose, so he knows there's > issues with that) is in

Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker

2014-07-08 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2014-07-08 at 22:41 -0400, David F. Skoll wrote: > On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 21:03:35 -0400, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > > > So this sounds like you are searching the entire email for this > > string which just sounds inefficient especially if they use some big > > attachments. > > It's not too b

Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker

2014-07-08 Thread David F. Skoll
On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 21:03:35 -0400 "Kevin A. McGrail" wrote: > So this sounds like you are searching the entire email for this > string which just sounds inefficient especially if they use some big > attachments. It's not too bad because the regex is simple. > Since I'm guessing you are using M

Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker

2014-07-08 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 7/7/2014 5:34 PM, David F. Skoll wrote: Replying to myself... full MSDOGEXE /\n\nTV[opqr]/ Seems to work. :) So this sounds like you are searching the entire email for this string which just sounds inefficient especially if they use some big attachments. Since I'm guessing you are usin

Re: Ideas sought for blocking new variant of cryptolocker

2014-07-07 Thread David F. Skoll
Replying to myself... > full MSDOGEXE /\n\nTV[opqr]/ Seems to work. :) Regards, David.

RE: Ideas to Identify Base64-encoded Spam?

2007-01-28 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote: Yes, they are. But I see often legitimate messages like this. They are probably used when sending something to somebody while having a voice conversation with him/her. I did it, too. Giampaolo, In which case, nothing is lost if the message doe

RE: Ideas to Identify Base64-encoded Spam?

2007-01-28 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
From: Rich Shepard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, John D. Hardin wrote: > > > Please don't ask SA to become an antivirus or attachment file type > > security policy enforcement tool. There are already very effective tools > > to do perform those tasks. > >We run only linu

Re: Ideas to Identify Base64-encoded Spam?

2007-01-28 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, John D. Hardin wrote: Please don't ask SA to become an antivirus or attachment file type security policy enforcement tool. There are already very effective tools to do perform those tasks. We run only linux here, so I ignore Microsoft virii and the like. But, when I get

Re: Ideas to Identify Base64-encoded Spam?

2007-01-28 Thread John D. Hardin
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, Rich Shepard wrote: >The past couple of days has seen the arrival of a new mutant > species of spam: the empty message with a Windows .exe attachment > that is base64 encoded. SpamAssassin is giving them scores of 0.0. Please don't ask SA to become an antivirus or attachm

RE: Ideas to Identify Base64-encoded Spam?

2007-01-28 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
From: Rich Shepard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >With your help the amount of spam getting past the various > filters in my > inbox (and that of my fiancee) has dropped dramatically. I appreciate > learning from all of you. > >The past couple of days has seen the arrival of a new mutant s

RE: Ideas to Identify Base64-encoded Spam?

2007-01-28 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
From: Rich Shepard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >With your help the amount of spam getting past the various > filters in my > inbox (and that of my fiancee) has dropped dramatically. I appreciate > learning from all of you. > >The past couple of days has seen the arrival of a new mutant s

RE: Ideas

2006-10-11 Thread Robert Swan
to forward specific e-mail addresses to our techs so that they can test to their own e-mail address by using aliases in Postfix Robert -Original Message- From: jdow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 1:14 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re

Re: Ideas

2006-10-11 Thread Michael Grant
I think I see what you're trying to do. You want to set up a server which you can use to see how spamass processes individual mail messages. A sort of mirror that you can use to see what your message looks like after it passes through spamass. Unfortunatly, the only possible use I can think of

Re: Ideas

2006-10-10 Thread jdow
From: "Giampaolo Tomassoni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OMG, listen. We setup regular mail server for companies (mostly exchange servers). Once we setup the mail server I want to send an e-mail from that new mail server to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want that email run through all the Spamassasin tests the

Re: Ideas

2006-10-10 Thread jdow
If you do that you will get mugged, I promise. All you have to do is bounce one to me and I'll crawl through the Ethernet cables, the fiber optics, and all that crap so I can rip your throat out with my bare teeth. I hope that conveys the depths of depravity involved in the setup you are proposin

Re: Ideas

2006-10-10 Thread Loren Wilton
Yes, right. But the abuser would simply forward an a-mail with sa scores to the fake originator of the triggering e-mail. I think that would be mostly useless to spammers. Also, if the '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' address is not too widely disclosed, there shouldn't be chance. Finally, if it becames to b

Re: Ideas

2006-10-10 Thread Loren Wilton
y how to do it.           Loren   - Original Message - From: Robert Swan To: SpamAssassin Users Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 1:31 PM Subject: RE: Ideas OMG, listen.   We setup regular mail server for companies (mostly exchange servers). Once we setu

Re: Ideas

2006-10-10 Thread Jay Chandler
On Oct 10, 2006, at 4:53 PM, Clifton Royston wrote:On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 04:31:54PM -0400, Robert Swan wrote:    OMG, listen.   We setup regular mail server for companies (mostly exchange servers).   Once we setup the mail server I want to send an e-mail from that new   mail server to [1][EMAIL P

Re: Ideas

2006-10-10 Thread Clifton Royston
On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 04:31:54PM -0400, Robert Swan wrote: >OMG, listen. > >We setup regular mail server for companies (mostly exchange servers). >Once we setup the mail server I want to send an e-mail from that new >mail server to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want that email run >thr

RE: Ideas

2006-10-10 Thread Coffey, Neal
Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote: > Yes, right. But the abuser would simply forward an a-mail with sa > scores to the fake originator of the triggering e-mail. I think that > would be mostly useless to spammers. To spammers, probably not. To mailbombers and other ne'er-do-wells, it's perfect. > Also, i

RE: Ideas

2006-10-10 Thread Chris Santerre
Chris -Original Message-From: Robert Swan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 4:32 PMTo: SpamAssassin UsersSubject: RE: Ideas OMG, listen.   We setup regular mail server for companies (mostly exchange servers). Once we setup the mail server I want to send

RE: Ideas

2006-10-10 Thread Coffey, Neal
Robert Swan wrote: > Once we setup the mail server I want to send an e-mail from that > new mail server to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want that email > run through all the Spamassasin tests then sent back to me with all > the rules that were triggered etc in the body.. Then mail sent to "[EMAIL PROTECT

RE: Ideas

2006-10-10 Thread Toll, Eric
So, what is so hard about that? Just setup a server with SA, then $sa_tag_level_deflt  = -100.0;  Then pop out your emails to yourself.       From: Robert Swan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 4:32 PMTo: SpamAssassin UsersSubject: RE: Ideas

RE: Ideas

2006-10-10 Thread Robert Swan
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 4:18 PM To: Robert Swan; SpamAssassin Users Subject: RE: Ideas   Wait...what?   You want to setup a server that sends spam?   Why not just make an email address, stick it on the usenet and post to a few sites, have

RE: Ideas

2006-10-10 Thread Chris Santerre
www.uribl.com -Original Message-From: Robert Swan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 3:56 PMTo: SpamAssassin UsersSubject: RE: Ideas I am trying to setup a SPAM server to test e-mail servers, whether they are setup correctly or not..we do mail server setups

RE: Ideas

2006-10-10 Thread Robert Swan
I am trying to setup a SPAM server to test e-mail servers, whether they are setup correctly or not..we do mail server setups on a pretty large scale and am looking to test the servers once they are built and installed.   Robert             Peace he would say instead of goodbye.

RE: ideas on why this rule isn't working?

2005-05-26 Thread Johnson, S
Where can I get the SARE rule for this? -Original Message- From: Loren Wilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 12:33 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: ideas on why this rule isn't working? > Any ideas on why this isn't working? Th

RE: ideas on why this rule isn't working?

2005-05-26 Thread Johnson, S
@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: ideas on why this rule isn't working? Johnson, S wrote: > I have to admit... Some people are actually trying to help me keep bad > material out of our school district. They are attaching a > "sexually-explicit: text text text" in the subject line.

Re: ideas on why this rule isn't working?

2005-05-26 Thread Loren Wilton
> No, it's not... I wonder why this is? I'm on SA 3.0.1 as well. That rule may not have been in 3.0.1, if I recall correctly. It started as a SARE rule and moved over at some point. Maybe that was 0.1, maybe 0.2. Not very long ago though. Loren

RE: ideas on why this rule isn't working?

2005-05-26 Thread Johnson, S
No, it's not... I wonder why this is? I'm on SA 3.0.1 as well. -Original Message- From: Kevin Peuhkurinen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 12:06 PM Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: ideas on why this rule isn't working? Johnson, S wrot

Re: ideas on why this rule isn't working?

2005-05-26 Thread Loren Wilton
> Any ideas on why this isn't working? Thanks! header ZXS_SEXUALLY_EXPLICIT Subject =~ /\bsexually-explicit/i describe ZXS_SEXUALLY_EXPLICIT bad...bad...bad... score ZXS_SEXUALLY_EXPLICIT 10 Looks good to me. Did you remember to restart spamd after you put this in a rules file somewhere? Actu

Re: ideas on why this rule isn't working?

2005-05-26 Thread Matt Kettler
Johnson, S wrote: > I have to admit… Some people are actually trying to help me keep bad > material out of our school district. They are attaching a > “sexually-explicit: text text text” in the subject line. So I thought > that I’d write a rule to catch that and re-route the mail to the > blackho

Re: ideas on why this rule isn't working?

2005-05-26 Thread Kevin Peuhkurinen
Johnson, S wrote: I have to admit… Some people are actually trying to help me keep bad material out of our school district. They are attaching a “sexually-explicit: text text text” in the subject line. So I thought that I’d write a rule to catch that and re-route the mail to the blackhole. An