Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-12-22 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Dienstag, 15. Dezember 2009 Marc Perkel wrote: > Get a modern email client. While I *can* read HTML with my client, I set *text* to be the default view, as it's usually more readable. It's really a very simple setting to send at least *both* html *and* text. I'd prefer text only, to save th

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-12-17 Thread Kevin Golding
In article <4b22a350.1030...@perkel.com>, Marc Perkel writes > >Kevin Golding wrote: > >> bigfootinteractive.com. 3600IN TXT "v=spf1 >> ip4:206.132.3.0/24 ip4:206.132.1.0/24 ip4:216.35.62.0/25 >> ip4:216.33.63.0/24 ip4:209.67.13.128/25 ip4:66.7.58.0/24 -all" >

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-12-15 Thread jdow
From: "LuKreme" Sent: Tuesday, 2009/December/15 07:19 On 15-Dec-2009, at 06:11, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Mark, can you *please* stop sending HTML-only messages to the list? And just in case the response is "no one else complains" Yes. Stop doing this. Bad list subscriber. Bad! Bad! Very much

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-12-15 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Marc Perkel wrote on Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:22:44 -0800: > Get a modern email client. Please stop responding like an asshole. This is not a matter about my email client but about *you* configuring *your* email client incorrectly! Please configure your email client correctly! Thank you. Kai -- Ka

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-12-15 Thread Per Jessen
Marc Perkel wrote: > Get a modern email client. > Note that Kai didn't complain about the HTML, he comaplained that you're _only_ sending the HTML. You should really send the text-portion along too. /Per Jessen, Zürich

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-12-15 Thread Benny Pedersen
On tir 15 dec 2009 17:36:56 CET, Toni Mueller wrote HTML in emails is usually a synonym for "F*CKING SH*T". most users that try doing it is maybe just trying to write in red or white :) but yes, i will also say html is not for email, but so many clients have it as default i have giving up wi

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-12-15 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Tue, 15.12.2009 at 08:22:44 -0800, Marc Perkel wrote: > Get a modern email client. > > Kai Schaetzl wrote: >> Mark, can you *please* stop sending HTML-only messages to the list? looks like I should start blacklisting individual subscribers. HTML in emails is usually a synonym for "F*CKI

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-12-15 Thread Benny Pedersen
On tir 15 dec 2009 17:22:44 CET, Marc Perkel wrote Mark, can you *please* stop sending HTML-only messages to the list? Get a modern email client. helps more to get a better os :) -- xpoint http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-12-15 Thread Marc Perkel
Get a modern email client. Kai Schaetzl wrote: Mark, can you *please* stop sending HTML-only messages to the list? Kai

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-12-15 Thread LuKreme
On 15-Dec-2009, at 06:11, Kai Schaetzl wrote: > Mark, can you *please* stop sending HTML-only messages to the list? And just in case the response is "no one else complains" Yes. Stop doing this. Bad list subscriber. Bad! Bad! -- Hello Diane, I'm Bucky Goldstein

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-12-15 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Mark, can you *please* stop sending HTML-only messages to the list? Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-12-11 Thread Marc Perkel
Kevin Golding wrote: In article <4b226758.90...@perkel.com>, Marc Perkel writes If you have any other domain names for me to list let me know. I'm always looking to expand my white lists. shop.marksandspencer.com is one I always see hitting black, and SPF_HELO_

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-12-11 Thread Kevin Golding
In article <4b226758.90...@perkel.com>, Marc Perkel writes >If you have any other domain names for me to list let me know. I'm >always looking to expand my white lists. shop.marksandspencer.com is one I always see hitting black, and SPF_HELO_PASS so... shop.marksandspencer.com. 86400 IN

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-12-11 Thread Marc Perkel
Michael Monnerie wrote: On Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2009 Marc Perkel wrote: Every list is imperfect. In this case there were about 10 hits on the hi MX record and they didn't use QUIT to close the connection. Generally this indicates a virus. If they had used QUIT they wouldn't h

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-12-11 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Montag, 30. November 2009 Alex wrote: > I've been thinking the same thing for a while, but still have it > enabled and scored low, particularly the whitelist. > > How do you think it compares with the Barracuda or Adam Katz lists? > > I have a small script that parses my mail log for JMF_BL, a

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-12-11 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2009 Marc Perkel wrote: > Every list is imperfect. In this case there were about 10 hits on the > hi MX record and they didn't use QUIT to close the connection. > Generally this indicates a virus. If they had used QUIT they > wouldn't have been listed. Although I try to

RE: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-12-01 Thread R-Elists
> > if it was just for me you would post it on maillists ? :) > > thanks for clearify it, atleast for me > Benny, sure we would! as ummm ...well, you know, you are just so lovable... :-) seriously, and the reason you are so lovable is that even if i read some (not all) of your posts over

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-12-01 Thread Benny Pedersen
On tir 01 dec 2009 12:27:58 CET, Mike Cardwell wrote When I say, "you," I'm refering to the people using the JMF lists, not specifically you Benny. if it was just for me you would post it on maillists ? :) thanks for clearify it, atleast for me -- xpoint http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-har

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-12-01 Thread Marc Perkel
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On tir 01 dec 2009 02:16:04 CET, wrote I believe Raymond's response was addressing the fact a server connection could possibly be interrupted before it had a chance to issue the SMTP QUIT command. I would think being listed for that a

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-12-01 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2009 Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote: > So if you have a crappy connection towards your mailserver Marc you > can get listed, thats rather funny, and annoying. Connections do > break also when not running a botnet... pfff > It's not that you get listed, but all of your cus

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-12-01 Thread Mike Cardwell
Benny Pedersen wrote: I believe Raymond's response was addressing the fact a server connection could possibly be interrupted before it had a chance to issue the SMTP QUIT command. I would think being listed for that alone would be ridiculous. if its this i would agree, cant exim see diff in

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-12-01 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> On tir 01 dec 2009 02:16:04 CET, wrote >> I believe Raymond's response was addressing the fact a server >> connection could possibly be interrupted before it had a chance to >> issue the SMTP QUIT command. I would think being listed for that alone >> would be ridiculous. On 01.12.09 02:20,

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-11-30 Thread Benny Pedersen
On tir 01 dec 2009 02:16:04 CET, wrote I believe Raymond's response was addressing the fact a server connection could possibly be interrupted before it had a chance to issue the SMTP QUIT command. I would think being listed for that alone would be ridiculous. if its this i would agree, ca

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-11-30 Thread d . hill
Quoting Benny Pedersen : On tir 01 dec 2009 00:51:38 CET, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote So if you have a crappy connection towards your mailserver Marc you can get listed, thats rather funny, and annoying. Connections do break also when not running a botnet... pfff maybe i am dump, but what

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-11-30 Thread Benny Pedersen
On tir 01 dec 2009 00:51:38 CET, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote So if you have a crappy connection towards your mailserver Marc you can get listed, thats rather funny, and annoying. Connections do break also when not running a botnet... pfff maybe i am dump, but what do you mean by the above ?

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-11-30 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! I'm investigating it further but what appears is that the IP also failed to close the connection with a QUIT. OK, but it really is a legitimate mail server, so shouldn't be listed. So if you have a crappy connection towards your mailserver Marc you can get listed, thats rather funny,

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-11-30 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Montag, 30. November 2009 Marc Perkel wrote: > I'm investigating it further but what appears is that the IP also > failed to close the connection with a QUIT. > OK, but it really is a legitimate mail server, so shouldn't be listed. mfg zmi -- // Michael Monnerie, Ing.BSc- http:

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-11-30 Thread Marc Perkel
Michael Monnerie wrote: http://ipadmin.junkemailfilter.com/remove.php?ip=80.245.199.162 I removed that IP now, in order to let pass mail through. But please check it. It seems you easily blacklist a host that connects to your tarbaby MX, but we had a network outage on our primary MX which r

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-11-30 Thread Alex
Hi, > 195.202.149.231 had the same issue. Seems your tarbaby is a bit harsh. > Looks more like an unhappy woman than a baby ;-) > > I've had to drop the use of hostkarma now, way too many FPs. I've been thinking the same thing for a while, but still have it enabled and scored low, particularly th

Re: FP on blacklist hostkarma

2009-11-30 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Montag, 30. November 2009 Michael Monnerie wrote: > http://ipadmin.junkemailfilter.com/remove.php?ip=80.245.199.162 > > I removed that IP now, in order to let pass mail through. But please > check it. It seems you easily blacklist a host that connects to your > tarbaby MX, but we had a network