Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-09 Thread Axb
On 09/09/2014 03:50 PM, Alex Regan wrote: Hi, Did you understand that all tokens are learned, regardless whether they have been seen before? That doesn't really matter from a user perspective, though, right? I mean, if there are tokens that have already been learned are learned again, the net

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-09 Thread Alex Regan
Hi, Did you understand that all tokens are learned, regardless whether they have been seen before? That doesn't really matter from a user perspective, though, right? I mean, if there are tokens that have already been learned are learned again, the net result is zero. Very much not zero. Each

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-09 Thread Alex Regan
Hi, Please use plain-text rather than HTML. In particular with that really bad indentation format of quoting. It doesn't seem possible with gmail directly any longer, so I've set up thunderbird for this. Maybe it is, but not after clicking around in the obvious places. It's possible. A li

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-08 Thread Amir Caspi
On Sep 8, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Alex Regan wrote: >> Please use plain-text rather than HTML. In particular with that really >> bad indentation format of quoting. > > It doesn't seem possible with gmail directly any longer, so I've set up > thunderbird for this. Maybe it is, but not after clicking a

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-08 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 8 Sep 2014, Alex Regan wrote: Did you understand that the number of previously not seen tokens has absolutely nothing to do with auto-learning? Yes, that was a mistake. Did you understand that all tokens are learned, regardless whether they have been seen before? That doesn't reall

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-08 Thread Alex Regan
Hi, Please use plain-text rather than HTML. In particular with that really bad indentation format of quoting. It doesn't seem possible with gmail directly any longer, so I've set up thunderbird for this. Maybe it is, but not after clicking around in the obvious places. X-Spam-MyReport: To

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-06 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
Please use plain-text rather than HTML. In particular with that really bad indentation format of quoting. On Sat, 2014-09-06 at 17:22 -0400, Alex wrote: > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > > On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 23:50 -0400, Alex wrote: > > > > > > > I looked in the qu

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-06 Thread Alex
Hi, On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 23:50 -0400, Alex wrote: > > > > > I looked in the quarantined message, and according to the _TOKEN_ > > > > header I've added: > > > > > > > > X-Spam-MyReport: Tokens: new, 47; hammy, 7; neutral, 54; spammy,

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-04 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 23:50 -0400, Alex wrote: > > > I looked in the quarantined message, and according to the _TOKEN_ > > > header I've added: > > > > > > X-Spam-MyReport: Tokens: new, 47; hammy, 7; neutral, 54; spammy, 16. > > > > > > Isn't that sufficient for auto-learning this message as spa

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-03 Thread Alex
Hi, > > However, spam with scores greater than 9.0 aren't being autolearned: > > http://spamassassin.apache.org/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Plugin_AutoLearnThreshold.html > > > > Sep 2 21:01:51 mail01 amavis[25938]: (25938-10) > > header_edits_for_quar: -> > > , Yes, score=16.519 tag=-200 tag2=5 kill=

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-02 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2014-09-02 at 21:16 -0600, LuKreme wrote: > On 02 Sep 2014, at 20:50 , Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > > On Tue, 2014-09-02 at 20:22 -0600, LuKreme wrote: > >> I believe the score threshold is the base score WITHOUT bayes. > >> > >> Try running the email through with a -D flag and see what

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-02 Thread LuKreme
On 02 Sep 2014, at 20:50 , Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > On Tue, 2014-09-02 at 20:22 -0600, LuKreme wrote: >> On 02 Sep 2014, at 19:11 , Alex wrote: >> >>> However, spam with scores greater than 9.0 aren't being autolearned: >> >> I believe the score threshold is the base score WITHOUT bayes.

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-02 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2014-09-02 at 20:22 -0600, LuKreme wrote: > On 02 Sep 2014, at 19:11 , Alex wrote: > > > However, spam with scores greater than 9.0 aren't being autolearned: > > I believe the score threshold is the base score WITHOUT bayes. > > Try running the email through with a -D flag and see what

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-02 Thread LuKreme
On 02 Sep 2014, at 19:11 , Alex wrote: > However, spam with scores greater than 9.0 aren't being autolearned: I believe the score threshold is the base score WITHOUT bayes. Try running the email through with a -D flag and see what you get. (And that is only a partial answer, the threshold num

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-02 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2014-09-02 at 21:11 -0400, Alex wrote: > I have a spamassassin-3.4 system with the following bayes config: > > required_hits 5.0 > rbl_timeout 8 > use_bayes 1 > bayes_auto_learn 1 > bayes_auto_learn_on_error 1 > bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam 9.0 > bayes_expiry_max_db_size 950 > bayes