RE: update overkill (was: help lowering score on a specific emaillist situation)

2009-03-30 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 13:55 -0700, RobertH wrote: > Previously, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > > The most part of this discussion isn't specific to you, nor > > SA. It's a well-known, general problem when running update > > services. It isn't meant to be a decree either, it's partly > > my opinio

RE: update overkill (was: help lowering score on a specific emaillist situation)

2009-03-29 Thread RobertH
> > Oh, come on, Robert -- I didn't say your way is abusive, just > overkill. > > The most part of this discussion isn't specific to you, nor > SA. It's a well-known, general problem when running update > services. It isn't meant to be a decree either, it's partly > my opinion, partly best-p

RE: update overkill (was: help lowering score on a specific email list situation)

2009-03-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 13:05 -0700, RobertH wrote: > > From: Karsten Bräckelmann > > The real impact isn't the DNS query, but whenever an update > > has been pushed. If everyone would check once an hour, the > > full load would have to be shouldered in 60 minutes, as > > opposed to evenly distri

Re: update overkill

2009-03-29 Thread mouss
Karsten Bräckelmann a écrit : > On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 20:44 +0200, mouss wrote: >> Karsten Bräckelmann a écrit : > >>> It's the same classic problem with uninspired admins, running such cron >>> jobs strictly at a full hour. >> In most cases, it's not the admins fault. many systems allow adding cr

RE: update overkill

2009-03-29 Thread RobertH
> Mouss wrote: > In most cases, it's not the admins fault. many systems allow > adding cron jobs by simply putting a file in a > /some/path/hourly and so on instead of editing /etc/crontab > (or running the crontab command). This is nice (exceptionally > for packages when editing files is p

RE: update overkill (was: help lowering score on a specific email list situation)

2009-03-29 Thread RobertH
> From: Karsten Bräckelmann > Heh, true. And he could run sa-update even more frequently. > After all, the DNS answer is cached for an hour... ;) > > The real impact isn't the DNS query, but whenever an update > has been pushed. If everyone would check once an hour, the > full load would hav

Re: update overkill

2009-03-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 20:44 +0200, mouss wrote: > Karsten Bräckelmann a écrit : > > It's the same classic problem with uninspired admins, running such cron > > jobs strictly at a full hour. > > In most cases, it's not the admins fault. many systems allow adding cron > jobs by simply putting a fil

Re: update overkill

2009-03-29 Thread mouss
Karsten Bräckelmann a écrit : > On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 18:14 +0100, Justin Mason wrote: >> on the other hand, the sa-update architecture can cope with it just fine. ;) > > Heh, true. And he could run sa-update even more frequently. After all, > the DNS answer is cached for an hour... ;) > > The re

Re: update overkill (was: help lowering score on a specific email list situation)

2009-03-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 18:14 +0100, Justin Mason wrote: > on the other hand, the sa-update architecture can cope with it just fine. ;) Heh, true. And he could run sa-update even more frequently. After all, the DNS answer is cached for an hour... ;) The real impact isn't the DNS query, but whenever

Re: update overkill (was: help lowering score on a specific email list situation)

2009-03-29 Thread Justin Mason
on the other hand, the sa-update architecture can cope with it just fine. ;) 2009/3/29 Karsten Bräckelmann : >> > Isn't that a tad overkill? > > It is. :) > >> > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RuleUpdates >> > >> > How often should I run sa-update? >> > >> > As often as you like. It typically