RE: Spamassassin not using Bayes for some reason.

2005-09-21 Thread Bowie Bailey
From: Nick Gilbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Right. I restarted the box (just in case) and it's now behaving > slightly differently for some reason (no idea why - I've already > restarted the spamd service several times this evening): > > spamc -u nick < spam3.txt now gives: > > * 3.5 BA

Re: Spamassassin not using Bayes for some reason.

2005-09-21 Thread Nick Gilbert
Right. I restarted the box (just in case) and it's now behaving slightly differently for some reason (no idea why - I've already restarted the spamd service several times this evening): spamc -u nick < spam3.txt now gives: * 3.5 BAYES_99 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100% ...whi

Re: Spamassassin not using Bayes for some reason.

2005-09-21 Thread Nick Gilbert
What parameters is spamd started with? In particular, is spamd started with -u? If so, spamc's -u will be ignored. I was - yes. But removing it and restarting spamd, and then rerunning the test doesn't seem to make any difference. It still isn't applying the bayes scores to that message even w

Re: Spamassassin not using Bayes for some reason.

2005-09-21 Thread Jim Maul
Nick Gilbert wrote: So perhaps the source of the problem is not simscan after all? Why would spamassassin and spamc produce different results? I never said the problem was with SimScan. No *I* did :) Matt Kettler asked the relevant question. Are you logged in as Nick when you are test

Re: Spamassassin not using Bayes for some reason.

2005-09-21 Thread Nick Gilbert
So perhaps the source of the problem is not simscan after all? Why would spamassassin and spamc produce different results? I never said the problem was with SimScan. No *I* did :) Matt Kettler asked the relevant question. Are you logged in as Nick when you are testing spamassassin? Yep

Re: Spamassassin not using Bayes for some reason.

2005-09-21 Thread Nick Gilbert
Are you running spamassassin while logged in as "nick"? Yes... But I presumed that the "-u nick" was designed to simulate that? Well that works with spamc, but not for spamassassin. ie: if you did that all while logged in as root, spamc would be using nick's bayes DB, but spamassassin woul

Re: Spamassassin not using Bayes for some reason.

2005-09-21 Thread Matt Kettler
Matt Kettler wrote: >spamc -u nick < spam3.txt Actually, one more question that comes to mind.. what parameters is spamd started with? In particular, is spamd started with -u? If so, spamc's -u will be ignored.

Re: Spamassassin not using Bayes for some reason.

2005-09-21 Thread Matt Kettler
Nick Gilbert wrote: > Matt Kettler wrote: > >> Nick Gilbert wrote: >> >>> I've just noticed that if I run: >>> >>> spamc -u [EMAIL PROTECTED] < spam3.txt >>> or >>> spamc -u nick < spam3.txt >>> >>> I do NOT get the bayes results which I DO get if I run: >>> >>> spamassassin -t < spam3.txt. >>> >

RE: Spamassassin not using Bayes for some reason.

2005-09-21 Thread Bowie Bailey
From: Nick Gilbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I've just noticed that if I run: > > spamc -u [EMAIL PROTECTED] < spam3.txt >or > spamc -u nick < spam3.txt > > I do NOT get the bayes results which I DO get if I run: > > spamassassin -t < spam3.txt. > > So perhaps the source of the problem

Re: Spamassassin not using Bayes for some reason.

2005-09-21 Thread Nick Gilbert
Matt Kettler wrote: Nick Gilbert wrote: I've just noticed that if I run: spamc -u [EMAIL PROTECTED] < spam3.txt or spamc -u nick < spam3.txt I do NOT get the bayes results which I DO get if I run: spamassassin -t < spam3.txt. So perhaps the source of the problem is not simscan after all? W

Re: Spamassassin not using Bayes for some reason.

2005-09-21 Thread Matt Kettler
Nick Gilbert wrote: > I've just noticed that if I run: > > spamc -u [EMAIL PROTECTED] < spam3.txt > or > spamc -u nick < spam3.txt > > I do NOT get the bayes results which I DO get if I run: > > spamassassin -t < spam3.txt. > > So perhaps the source of the problem is not simscan after all? Wh

Re: Spamassassin not using Bayes for some reason.

2005-09-21 Thread Nick Gilbert
I've just noticed that if I run: spamc -u [EMAIL PROTECTED] < spam3.txt or spamc -u nick < spam3.txt I do NOT get the bayes results which I DO get if I run: spamassassin -t < spam3.txt. So perhaps the source of the problem is not simscan after all? Why would spamassassin and spamc produce d

RE: Spamassassin not using Bayes for some reason.

2005-09-21 Thread Bowie Bailey
From: Nick Gilbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Bowie Bailey wrote: > > You are training bayes and running your manual tests as the user > > 'nick'. However, when a real message is scanned, it is probably > > running as a different user and using a different (untrained) bayes > > database. What

RE: Spamassassin not using Bayes for some reason.

2005-09-20 Thread Bowie Bailey
From: Nick Gilbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For some reason, spamassassin is behaving differently when it scans > real incoming mail compared to when I run it manually with the -t > option from the console. > > When a real message is scanned, it doesn't seem to apply any > bayesian scoring t