Re: Spam slipping through

2008-12-17 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 15:49 -0500, Greg Skouby wrote: > http://pastebin.com/m791c34be Here's just the SA headers: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on zoogz.gregorie.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=5.5 required=6.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_EUDORA,MG_SEX1, U

Re: Spam slipping through

2008-12-17 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! "steadyrelationships DOT com" is currently blacklisted on ivmURI It was added to ivmURI at 12/16/2008, 6:31:03 PM EST (I think that time is before that spam arrived at your server, but double-check me on that) steadyrelationships .com is on SURBL lists: JP Bye, Raymond.

Re: Spam slipping through

2008-12-17 Thread Rob McEwen
Greg Skouby wrote: > Can you please do me a favor and run this through your setup and let me know > what it scores: > http://pastebin.com/m791c34be > As of now the URL at the bottom is not in URIBL or SURBL and the sending IP > is not on any major blacklist. I am curious if others have rules that

RE: Spam slipping through

2008-12-17 Thread Michael Hutchinson
Hrm, I get exactly the same score: Content analysis details: (2.5 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description -- -- 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines 0.0 BAYE

Re: Spam slipping through

2008-12-11 Thread LuKreme
On 11-Dec-2008, at 10:48, Kelson wrote: LuKreme wrote: On 10-Dec-2008, at 16:01, mouss wrote: so 5 is a little too high. Ah, gotcha. I am scoring whitelist at -5 though, so a 5 still puts them at 0. Without other spam tags, they should still pass, no? whitelist_from_dkim and related rules

Re: Spam slipping through

2008-12-11 Thread Kelson
LuKreme wrote: On 10-Dec-2008, at 16:01, mouss wrote: so 5 is a little too high. Ah, gotcha. I am scoring whitelist at -5 though, so a 5 still puts them at 0. Without other spam tags, they should still pass, no? whitelist_from_dkim and related rules (whitelist_from_spf, whitelist_from_au

Re: Spam slipping through

2008-12-10 Thread LuKreme
On 10-Dec-2008, at 16:01, mouss wrote: while the whitelisting part is ok, the "blacklisting" part is risky: - they could mess up with their dns config during an update or they could add a new MTA, or reconfigure their MTA and "forget" to pass throgh the dkim signing application... - they

Re: Spam slipping through

2008-12-10 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Wed, December 10, 2008 23:16, LuKreme wrote: > Which would, I think, score them a full 5 points up for failing > DKIM, but give them a negative score from USER_IN_DKIM_WHITELIST? try: def_whitelist_auth [EMAIL PROTECTED] whitelist_auth [EMAIL PROTECTED] why have the extra step with add scor

Re: Spam slipping through

2008-12-10 Thread mouss
LuKreme a écrit : > On 10-Dec-2008, at 12:10, Kelson wrote: >> Successful sender verification ALONE doesn't tell you much, because it >> doesn't distinguish between a legit sender who uses DKIM and a spammer >> who uses DKIM (or a spammer abusing a large sender). This is why the >> default scores

Re: Spam slipping through

2008-12-10 Thread LuKreme
On 10-Dec-2008, at 12:10, Kelson wrote: Successful sender verification ALONE doesn't tell you much, because it doesn't distinguish between a legit sender who uses DKIM and a spammer who uses DKIM (or a spammer abusing a large sender). This is why the default scores on DKIM_VERIFIED and DKIM

Re: Spam slipping through

2008-12-10 Thread mouss
LuKreme a écrit : > On 8-Dec-2008, at 00:44, mouss wrote: >>> DKIM is not a blacklister, but a whitelist based on if sender really >>> use monster.com mta mail server or not :) >>> >> indeed. > > > Checking my SPAM folder it seems that a LOT of spam gets DKIM_VERIFIED > > I have tons that look,

Re: Spam slipping through

2008-12-10 Thread Kelson
LuKreme wrote: So it looks like the only usefulness of DKIM for spam checking is really for the big mailers like gmail, paypal, ebay, etc? A pass on DKIM (or any other sender verification system ) is useful for any mailer that you *recognize*, regardless of size. Trivial example: If you regu

Re: Spam slipping through

2008-12-09 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 12:40 -0700, LuKreme wrote: > Checking my SPAM folder it seems that a LOT of spam gets DKIM_VERIFIED > > So it looks like the only usefulness of DKIM for spam checking is > really for the big mailers like gmail, paypal, ebay, etc? The usefulness of SPF, DKIM and related t

Re: Spam slipping through

2008-12-09 Thread LuKreme
On 8-Dec-2008, at 00:44, mouss wrote: DKIM is not a blacklister, but a whitelist based on if sender really use monster.com mta mail server or not :) indeed. Checking my SPAM folder it seems that a LOT of spam gets DKIM_VERIFIED I have tons that look, essentially, like this: DomainKey-Signa

Re: Spam slipping through

2008-12-07 Thread mouss
Benny Pedersen a écrit : > On Mon, December 8, 2008 05:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> mouss said: > > bug: > Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::dbg("FromInTo: Comparing '$from' and > '$To"); > > fixed line: > Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::dbg("FromInTo: Comparing '$from' and > '$To'"); > Thanks! >> we

Re: Spam slipping through

2008-12-07 Thread hamann . w
Benny Pedersen wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, December 8, 2008 05:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > mouss said: >> >> bug: >> Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::dbg("FromInTo: Comparing '$from' and >> '$To"); >> >> fixed line: >> Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::dbg("FromInTo: Comparing '$from' and >> '$To'"); >>

Re: Spam slipping through

2008-12-07 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Mon, December 8, 2008 05:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > mouss said: bug: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::dbg("FromInTo: Comparing '$from' and '$To"); fixed line: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::dbg("FromInTo: Comparing '$from' and '$To'"); > well, I send mail to myself sometimes. The only way that t

Re: Spam slipping through

2008-12-07 Thread hamann . w
mouss said: >> >> > >> > The implementation of it is not my concern. It's a pretty basic rule to >> > require that addresses a commonly exploited spam attack vector. >> >> having the same address in the From and To is also seen in legitimate mail: >> - I send mail to myself >> - some people use

Re: Spam slipping through

2008-12-07 Thread mouss
support a écrit : > On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 23:45 -0500, Theo Van Dinter wrote: >> On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 08:00:10PM -0800, John Hardin wrote: >>> mechanism for. Devs: there've been wishes for this before; how hard >>> would it be to add the ability to match on the substring match captured >>> by an

Re: Spam slipping through

2008-12-07 Thread support
On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 23:45 -0500, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 08:00:10PM -0800, John Hardin wrote: > > mechanism for. Devs: there've been wishes for this before; how hard > > would it be to add the ability to match on the substring match captured > > by another rule? Add a fl

Re: Spam slipping through

2008-12-06 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 08:00:10PM -0800, John Hardin wrote: > mechanism for. Devs: there've been wishes for this before; how hard > would it be to add the ability to match on the substring match captured > by another rule? Add a flag to say "capture the match for this rule" and > a syntax for subs

Re: Spam slipping through

2008-12-06 Thread John Hardin
On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 20:13 +, support wrote: > Surely, by now, someone has come up with a simple regex rule or > something that matches if the to & from are the same? Is this too > obvious? Unfortunately it's actually not that easy. It involves remembering a matched substring across *two* ru

Re: Spam slipping through

2008-12-06 Thread support
On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 11:48 -0800, John Hardin wrote: > On Sat, 6 Dec 2008, Mike Cisar wrote: > > > - the "from" always matches the "to" (so it always looks like its coming > > from yourself) > > Silly, basic question: have you whitelist_from'd yourself? Baaad idea. > > SPF checks would catch

Re: Spam slipping through

2008-12-06 Thread John Hardin
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008, Mike Cisar wrote: - the "from" always matches the "to" (so it always looks like its coming from yourself) Silly, basic question: have you whitelist_from'd yourself? Baaad idea. SPF checks would catch that if you published SPF records for your domain. If you know that ma

Re: Spam slipping through

2008-12-06 Thread mouss
Mike Cisar a écrit : > Have recently been having 1000's of spam slipping past Spamassassin... they > all seem to be pretty much identical in format but Spamassassin isn't > scoring them even high enough to be tagged. > > - they are all flagged as important > - a single line having so far have one

Re: Spam slipping through

2008-12-06 Thread support
On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 10:17 -0700, Mike Cisar wrote: > Have recently been having 1000's of spam slipping past Spamassassin... they > all seem to be pretty much identical in format but Spamassassin isn't > scoring them even high enough to be tagged. > > - they are all flagged as important > - a si