R: R: R: R: URIWhois-0.02

2007-09-27 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
> -Messaggio originale- > Da: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Inviato: giovedì 27 settembre 2007 19.22 > > Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote: > > > Well, I have to manually turn my MX server on and off, sometimes. So, > is it > > SA an automated process? And then, if SA issues a wh

Re: R: R: R: URIWhois-0.02

2007-09-27 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote: Well, I have to manually turn my MX server on and off, sometimes. So, is it SA an automated process? And then, if SA issues a whois request, is it automated? This is plain silliness, which leads me to believe that you very well know that you're doing automated queri

R: R: R: URIWhois-0.02

2007-09-27 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
> -Messaggio originale- > Da: Kris Deugau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Inviato: giovedì 27 settembre 2007 18.14 > > Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote: > >> -Messaggio originale- > >> Da: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> It appears that you selectively missed the part that a

Re: R: R: URIWhois-0.02

2007-09-27 Thread Kris Deugau
Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote: -Messaggio originale- Da: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It appears that you selectively missed the part that applies: "You agree that you will use this data only for lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data to: (a)

Re: R: R: URIWhois-0.02

2007-09-27 Thread Jeff Chan
Quoting Giampaolo Tomassoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I think there is a lot of people in this list who runs a small business like > mine, and who may benefit from using the URIWhois plugin with no negative > consequences. The others, well, they have influence and resources to spend > in a "centraliz

Re: R: R: R: URIWhois-0.02

2007-09-26 Thread Dave Koontz
Thanks for the explanation, but I think you are missing the point here. What is reasonable and what will cause a block? An individual may well issue 100 queries a day for research. Not many have the time to do tens of thousands+ a day (or more). Any system that does will likely fall into the AU

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2007-09-26 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
> -Messaggio originale- > Da: Dave Koontz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Inviato: giovedì 27 settembre 2007 0.50 > > If nothing else, you should likely add a disclaimer to your rules as > you > can't control the threshold at which a site may be blocked for > excessive > queries. I doubt that

R: R: R: R: URIWhois-0.02

2007-09-26 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
> -Messaggio originale- > Da: Michele Neylon :: Blacknight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Inviato: giovedì 27 settembre 2007 0.55 > > Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote: > >> -Messaggio originale- > >> Da: Michele Neylon :: Blacknight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> That refers to pretty m

Re: R: R: URIWhois-0.02

2007-09-26 Thread SM
At 15:32 26-09-2007, Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote: It depends upon how many e-mail you scan. In about 24h I just issued more or less 100 queries to the to several TLDs' whois servers. What is it, 10 queries per TLD? It doesn't seem too much to me... Also note today I'm probably not going to get the

Re: R: R: URIWhois-0.02

2007-09-26 Thread Dave Koontz
If nothing else, you should likely add a disclaimer to your rules as you can't control the threshold at which a site may be blocked for excessive queries. I doubt that most users on this list have email volumes as low as yours (100?), and will go well above the thresholds you've tested. I am a wh

Re: R: R: R: URIWhois-0.02

2007-09-26 Thread Michele Neylon :: Blacknight
Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote: -Messaggio originale- Da: Michele Neylon :: Blacknight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] That refers to pretty much all TLDs and ccTLDs If you want to go slamming registry and registrar whois servers in an automated fashion you will get blacklisted by them all and bl

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2007-09-26 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
> -Messaggio originale- > Da: Michele Neylon :: Blacknight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > That refers to pretty much all TLDs and ccTLDs > > If you want to go slamming registry and registrar whois servers in an > automated fashion you will get blacklisted by them all and blocked I don't

Re: R: R: URIWhois-0.02

2007-09-26 Thread Michele Neylon :: Blacknight
Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote: This means nothing: what is a "high volume"? Also, you normally use the "whois" command. Isn't it an "automated, electronic process"? They are to say: "If we like to ban you, don't scream!". These terms comes from early internet ages, when spammers were used to scaven

R: R: URIWhois-0.02

2007-09-26 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
> -Messaggio originale- > Da: John D. Hardin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Wed, 26 Sep 2007, Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote: > > > So, I don't see the problem here: we are attempting to obtain > > information about or related to a domain name registration record. > > Doing it over and over

R: R: URIWhois-0.02

2007-09-26 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
> -Messaggio originale- > Da: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > However, mostly they say that: > > > > "Whois database is provided by XX for information purposes > only, > > and to assist persons in obtaining information about or related > to a > > domain name