Re: Two types of new spam

2020-01-11 Thread Philip Prindeville
> On Jan 4, 2020, at 11:57 AM, Bill Cole > wrote: > > On 3 Jan 2020, at 17:45, Philip Prindeville wrote: > [...] > >> One other question that occurs to me: why would we even need > http-equiv=“Content-Type” …> if we already have a Content-Type: header? > > There should be no need. > > With

Re: Two types of new spam

2020-01-08 Thread Kris Deugau
Lyle Evans wrote: Expect to see a lot more of these due to https://github.com/0x4447/0x4447_product_s3_email/blob/master/README.md That looks more like Doing It Right(TM), by way of using Amazon's outbound relay hosts. Doing It Wrong(TM) is sending direct-to-MX from your VPS without overrid

Re: Two types of new spam

2020-01-07 Thread Lyle Evans
On 1/3/2020 11:02 AM, Kris Deugau wrote: Philip Prindeville wrote: I’m getting the following Spam. http://www.redfish-solutions.com/misc/bluechew.eml Received: from phylobago.mysecuritycamera.org (ec2-34-210-5-63.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com [34.210.5.63]) I have a local rule adding a c

Re: Two types of new spam

2020-01-05 Thread Luis E. Muñoz
On 3 Jan 2020, at 8:02, Kris Deugau wrote: I have a local rule adding a couple of points for anything coming direct-to-MX from any Amazon compute node, period. ⋮ Reality has intruded and there are in fact static IP assignments in the .compute.amazonaws.com tree (as well as ISP customers of our

Re: Two types of new spam

2020-01-04 Thread RW
On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 11:06:41 -0800 (PST) John Hardin wrote: > >>> Seems to work either way! > >> > >> Either should match, but without the /m it should only match once. > >> > >> I just tried it and > >> > >> meta L_RECEIVED_SPF (__L_RECEIVED_SPF >= 10) > >> > >> doesn't work without t

Re: Two types of new spam

2020-01-04 Thread John Hardin
On Sat, 4 Jan 2020, John Hardin wrote: On Fri, 3 Jan 2020, RW wrote: On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 15:29:40 -0700 Philip Prindeville wrote: On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:34 AM, RW wrote: On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 10:09:21 -0800 (PST) John Hardin wrote: Try this instead, to actually match the header(s): header

Re: Two types of new spam

2020-01-04 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 3 Jan 2020, RW wrote: On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 15:29:40 -0700 Philip Prindeville wrote: On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:34 AM, RW wrote: On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 10:09:21 -0800 (PST) John Hardin wrote: Try this instead, to actually match the header(s): header __L_RECEIVED_SPF Received-SPF =~ /

Re: Two types of new spam

2020-01-04 Thread Bill Cole
On 3 Jan 2020, at 17:45, Philip Prindeville wrote: [...] One other question that occurs to me: why would we even need http-equiv=“Content-Type” …> if we already have a Content-Type: header? There should be no need. With that said, it could be *helpful* if a MUA were to save out the text/html

Re: Two types of new spam

2020-01-04 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 3 Jan 2020, Philip Prindeville wrote: On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:34 AM, RW wrote: On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 10:09:21 -0800 (PST) John Hardin wrote: On Fri, 3 Jan 2020, Pedro David Marco wrote: header __L_RECEIVED_SPFexists:Received-SPF tflags __L_RECEIVED_SPFmultiple maxhits

Re: Two types of new spam

2020-01-03 Thread RW
On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 16:21:21 -0700 Philip Prindeville wrote: > rawbody __L_UNNEEDED_META_CT /^ /m > > meta T_BLOCK_MISC47 __L_UNNEEDED_META_CT > describe T_BLOCK_MISC47 Why do this when a > Content-Type: header works? score T_BLOCK_MISC47 20.0 > > And that se

Re: Two types of new spam

2020-01-03 Thread RW
On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 15:29:40 -0700 Philip Prindeville wrote: > > On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:34 AM, RW wrote: > > > > On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 10:09:21 -0800 (PST) > > John Hardin wrote: > >> Try this instead, to actually match the header(s): > >> > >> header __L_RECEIVED_SPF Received-SPF =~ /^./

Re: Two types of new spam

2020-01-03 Thread Philip Prindeville
> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Philip Prindeville > wrote: > > > >> On Jan 2, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Philip Prindeville >> wrote: >> >> I’m getting the following Spam. >> >> http://www.redfish-solutions.com/misc/bluechew.eml >> >> And this is notable for having: >> >> >> >> GUID1 >> GUID2

Re: Two types of new spam

2020-01-03 Thread Philip Prindeville
> On Jan 2, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Philip Prindeville > wrote: > > I’m getting the following Spam. > > http://www.redfish-solutions.com/misc/bluechew.eml > > And this is notable for having: > > > > GUID1 > GUID2 > GUID3 > GUID4 > … > One other question that occurs to me: why would we even n

Re: Two types of new spam

2020-01-03 Thread Philip Prindeville
> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:34 AM, RW wrote: > > On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 10:09:21 -0800 (PST) > John Hardin wrote: > >> On Fri, 3 Jan 2020, Pedro David Marco wrote: >> >>> header __L_RECEIVED_SPFexists:Received-SPF >>> tflags __L_RECEIVED_SPFmultiple maxhits=20 >>> >>> meta L_RECEIVE

Re: Two types of new spam

2020-01-03 Thread RW
On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 10:09:21 -0800 (PST) John Hardin wrote: > On Fri, 3 Jan 2020, Pedro David Marco wrote: > > > header __L_RECEIVED_SPF        exists:Received-SPF > > tflags __L_RECEIVED_SPF        multiple maxhits=20 > > > > meta L_RECEIVED_SPF            (__L_RECEIVED_SPF >= 10) > > describe L_

Re: Two types of new spam

2020-01-03 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 3 Jan 2020, Pedro David Marco wrote: header __L_RECEIVED_SPF        exists:Received-SPF tflags __L_RECEIVED_SPF        multiple maxhits=20 meta L_RECEIVED_SPF            (__L_RECEIVED_SPF >= 10) describe L_RECEIVED_SPF        Crazy numbers of Received-SFP headers score L_RECEIVED_SPF   

Re: Two types of new spam

2020-01-03 Thread Pedro David Marco
Hi Philipe... try this: full __L_RECEIVED_SPF      /^Received-SPF: \w/mtflags __L_RECEIVED_SPF      multiple maxhits=11 meta L_RECEIVED_SPF        (__L_RECEIVED_SPF >= 10)describe L_RECEIVED_SPF        Crazy numbers of Received-SFP headersscore L_RECEIVED_SPF        4 -Pedro.

Re: Two types of new spam

2020-01-03 Thread Kris Deugau
Philip Prindeville wrote: I’m getting the following Spam. http://www.redfish-solutions.com/misc/bluechew.eml Received: from phylobago.mysecuritycamera.org (ec2-34-210-5-63.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com [34.210.5.63]) I have a local rule adding a couple of points for anything coming direc

Re: Two types of new spam

2020-01-02 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Thu, 2020-01-02 at 16:08 -0700, Philip Prindeville wrote: > I’m getting the following Spam. > > http://www.redfish-solutions.com/misc/bluechew.eml > > And this is notable for having: > > > > GUID1 > GUID2 > GUID3 > GUID4 > … > I've also been getting a number of these, and someone else on

Two types of new spam

2020-01-02 Thread Philip Prindeville
I’m getting the following Spam. http://www.redfish-solutions.com/misc/bluechew.eml And this is notable for having: GUID1 GUID2 GUID3 GUID4 … so it should be easy enough to detect. A GUID looks like: [0-9a-f]{8}-[0-9a-f]{4}-[0-9a-f]{3}-[0-9a-f]{3}-[0-9a-f]{12} The 2nd type of Spam I’m seei

Re: Absurd mail headers in new spam

2017-06-02 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 6/1/2017 7:31 PM, John Hardin wrote: Interesting. I wonder how that affects RFC-2822 (et. al.) headers, and specifically, the X-Spam-* headers that SA emits? RFC 6648 is a best practice and "deprecates the convention for newly defined parameters with textual (as opposed to numerical) names

Re: Absurd mail headers in new spam

2017-06-02 Thread Rupert Gallagher
Ignore them. Focus on RFC compliant headers and reject anything that fails. Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 12:14 AM, Loren Wilton wrote: I see I have received several new spam messages today from what looks (to me) like a new tool. Admittedly these three were all caught as

Re: Absurd mail headers in new spam

2017-06-01 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, A. Schulze wrote: John Hardin: any header that begins with "X-" is permitted. permitted - yes but I'm aware may user assisiate X- header still as private header. This is no longer true since 2012: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6648 just to mention that... Andreas In

Re: Absurd mail headers in new spam

2017-06-01 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, Loren Wilton wrote: Hopeless-Forming-Philistinizes: jobs Lossy-Cabdriver: 2368db81dcf1 Alba-Leanness-Elections: 38376DB11A Merrimac-Grams-Participating: B354488539E Giving-Remarkably-Incriminate: drawl Dustin-Ransoming: 18 Person-Decathlon-Arnold: dfcfce7ba985 Majori

Re: Absurd mail headers in new spam

2017-06-01 Thread Axb
Nice to see you're around Loren. Been a looong time since we did stuff like headerSARE_MSGID_RATWARE2 MESSAGEID =~ /\<\d{10,15}\.\d{18,40}\@[a-z]+\>/ # no /i! describe SARE_MSGID_RATWARE2 Message-Id is score SARE_MSGID_RATWARE2 0.639 #hist SARE_MSGI

Re: Absurd mail headers in new spam

2017-06-01 Thread Bill Cole
On 1 Jun 2017, at 8:28, Loren Wilton wrote: If he is intending to hide tracking info in the headers, it seems pointless unless he is also writing an MTA of some sort that will see the headers. But maybe he didn't think that far, and it was his intent to hide tracking info. Still, it seems a li

Re: Absurd mail headers in new spam

2017-06-01 Thread Loren Wilton
If I were to guess, adding such headers is done to confuse tools that compute hashes based on headers or use bayes filtering on the entire mail, since it adds innocent words to the mail without showing them to most end-users. It doesn't confuse either Bayes or any hash I'm aware of. Just as a

Re: Absurd mail headers in new spam

2017-06-01 Thread RW
On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 01:59:44 +0200 (CEST) Kim Roar Foldøy Hauge wrote: > If I were to guess, adding such headers is done to confuse tools that > compute hashes based on headers or use bayes filtering on the entire > mail, since it adds innocent words to the mail without showing them > to most end-

Re: Absurd mail headers in new spam

2017-06-01 Thread A. Schulze
John Hardin: any header that begins with "X-" is permitted. permitted - yes but I'm aware may user assisiate X- header still as private header. This is no longer true since 2012: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6648 just to mention that... Andreas

Re: Absurd mail headers in new spam

2017-06-01 Thread Loren Wilton
Hopeless-Forming-Philistinizes: jobs Lossy-Cabdriver: 2368db81dcf1 Alba-Leanness-Elections: 38376DB11A Merrimac-Grams-Participating: B354488539E Giving-Remarkably-Incriminate: drawl Dustin-Ransoming: 18 Person-Decathlon-Arnold: dfcfce7ba985 Majority-Gambles: 4f856 Buttock-Milky-Dogged: 8E626A

Re: Absurd mail headers in new spam

2017-05-31 Thread Benny Pedersen
Kim Roar Foldøy Hauge skrev den 2017-06-01 01:59: If I were to guess, adding such headers is done to confuse tools that compute hashes based on headers or use bayes filtering on the entire mail, since it adds innocent words to the mail without showing them to most end-users. bayes plugin: #

Re: Absurd mail headers in new spam

2017-05-31 Thread jdow
On 2017-05-31 16:59, Kim Roar Foldøy Hauge wrote: On Wed, 31 May 2017, John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, Benny Pedersen wrote: John Hardin skrev den 2017-06-01 00:29: > That sort of thing has happened before, and there are rules to *try* > to catch nonsense headers in my sandbox,

Re: Absurd mail headers in new spam

2017-05-31 Thread Kim Roar Foldøy Hauge
On Wed, 31 May 2017, John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, Benny Pedersen wrote: John Hardin skrev den 2017-06-01 00:29: > That sort of thing has happened before, and there are rules to *try* > to catch nonsense headers in my sandbox, but IIRC they never worked > well enough in massch

Re: Absurd mail headers in new spam

2017-05-31 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, Benny Pedersen wrote: John Hardin skrev den 2017-06-01 00:29: That sort of thing has happened before, and there are rules to *try* to catch nonsense headers in my sandbox, but IIRC they never worked well enough in masscheck to actually get published. would it be possib

Re: Absurd mail headers in new spam

2017-05-31 Thread Benny Pedersen
John Hardin skrev den 2017-06-01 00:29: That sort of thing has happened before, and there are rules to *try* to catch nonsense headers in my sandbox, but IIRC they never worked well enough in masscheck to actually get published. would it be possible to make list of non nonsense headers, and co

Re: Absurd mail headers in new spam

2017-05-31 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 31 May 2017, Loren Wilton wrote: I see I have received several new spam messages today from what looks (to me) like a new tool. Admittedly these three were all caught as spam, but some of them were close and went over the edge on some local rules I have. The new tool is putting

Absurd mail headers in new spam

2017-05-31 Thread Loren Wilton
I see I have received several new spam messages today from what looks (to me) like a new tool. Admittedly these three were all caught as spam, but some of them were close and went over the edge on some local rules I have. The new tool is putting absolutely absurd random headers in the spam

Re: New spam / phishing rule?

2014-11-08 Thread Benny Pedersen
On November 9, 2014 2:12:16 AM John Hardin wrote: Yep. .sig flamewar. Sigh. Thats why i use no sig at all, please dont copy me :)

Re: New spam / phishing rule?

2014-11-08 Thread LuKreme
On Nov 8, 2014, at 5:54 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 09.11.2014 um 01:48 schrieb Dave Pooser: >> On 11/8/14, 5:57 PM, "Reindl Harald" wrote: >> >>> what is that garbage worth for? >> >> It's from a book by Terry Pratchett. Are we really so hard up for things to >> talk about that we're going

Re: New spam / phishing rule?

2014-11-08 Thread John Hardin
On Sun, 9 Nov 2014, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 09.11.2014 um 01:48 schrieb Dave Pooser: On 11/8/14, 5:57 PM, "Reindl Harald" wrote: > what is that garbage worth for? It's from a book by Terry Pratchett. Are we really so hard up for things to talk about that we're going to have a .sig flamew

Re: New spam / phishing rule?

2014-11-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.11.2014 um 01:48 schrieb Dave Pooser: On 11/8/14, 5:57 PM, "Reindl Harald" wrote: what is that garbage worth for? It's from a book by Terry Pratchett. Are we really so hard up for things to talk about that we're going to have a .sig flamewar now? it's not a matter of "hard" it's a m

Re: New spam / phishing rule?

2014-11-08 Thread Dave Pooser
On 11/8/14, 5:57 PM, "Reindl Harald" wrote: >what is that garbage worth for? It's from a book by Terry Pratchett. Are we really so hard up for things to talk about that we're going to have a .sig flamewar now? -- Dave Pooser Cat-Herder-in-Chief, Pooserville.com Programming: The profession of pr

Re: New spam / phishing rule?

2014-11-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.11.2014 um 00:51 schrieb LuKreme: On Nov 7, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote: What mua clients shows invalid mimetypes ? Most all of them "thank you" for your "fortune footer" in the name of everybody trying to train ham messages for bayes.. what is that garbage worth

Re: New spam / phishing rule?

2014-11-08 Thread LuKreme
On Nov 7, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote: > > What mua clients shows invalid mimetypes ? Most all of them. -- He'd never asked for an exciting life. What he really liked, what he sought on every occasion, was boredom. The trouble was that boredom tended to explode in your face. Just w

Re: MUAs and invalid MIME type handling (was Re: New spam / phishing rule?)

2014-11-07 Thread Benny Pedersen
On November 7, 2014 6:06:40 PM "David F. Skoll" wrote: > What mua clients shows invalid mimetypes ? Microsoft, thank you... if the attachment name ends in ".htm" or ".html" it is treated as HTML regardless of MIME type. Microsoft could fix this in a monthly bugfix update for dangerous softwar

MUAs and invalid MIME type handling (was Re: New spam / phishing rule?)

2014-11-07 Thread David F. Skoll
On Fri, 07 Nov 2014 18:03:32 +0100 Benny Pedersen wrote: > What mua clients shows invalid mimetypes ? Microsoft, thank you... if the attachment name ends in ".htm" or ".html" it is treated as HTML regardless of MIME type. Actually, most MUAs do this. There are an unbelievable number of MIME ge

Re: New spam / phishing rule?

2014-11-07 Thread Benny Pedersen
On November 7, 2014 5:41:30 PM "David F. Skoll" wrote: I've seen a couple of hundred phishing emails come in that all had an attachment of type "application/html" which is (of course) bogus. What mua clients shows invalid mimetypes ?

Re: New spam / phishing rule?

2014-11-07 Thread Axb
On 11/07/2014 05:41 PM, David F. Skoll wrote: Hi, I've seen a couple of hundred phishing emails come in that all had an attachment of type "application/html" which is (of course) bogus. I've put in a rule to block these and will see how it goes. I've put an example up at http://pastebin.com/M3d

New spam / phishing rule?

2014-11-07 Thread David F. Skoll
Hi, I've seen a couple of hundred phishing emails come in that all had an attachment of type "application/html" which is (of course) bogus. I've put in a rule to block these and will see how it goes. I've put an example up at http://pastebin.com/M3dRp4dD with only slight editing to hide the actua

Re: New spam rule for specific content

2013-08-12 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 12 Aug 2013, Kris Deugau wrote: Amir 'CG' Caspi wrote: My main feeling is that if anyone is sending HTML email with LOTS of stuff commented out, that email is almost certainly spam. Ham HTML email would probably be done with more care. *snigger* Take a look at the raw source from a

Re: New spam rule for specific content

2013-08-12 Thread Kris Deugau
Amir 'CG' Caspi wrote: > My main feeling is that if anyone is > sending HTML email with LOTS of stuff commented out, that email is > almost certainly spam. Ham HTML email would probably be done with more > care. *snigger* Take a look at the raw source from a message sent with Outlook (especiall

Re: New spam rule for specific content

2013-08-11 Thread Amir 'CG' Caspi
At 8:23 PM -0700 08/11/2013, John Hardin wrote: However, I may be taking too-conservative a stance here. It's possible that, while HTML comments can appear in ham, *long* HTML comments won't, and the fact that we're looking for long blocks of comment text is enough safety. That's why feeling.

Re: New spam rule for specific content

2013-08-11 Thread John Hardin
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013, Amir 'CG' Caspi wrote: At 7:20 PM -0700 08/11/2013, John Hardin wrote: Yuck. Can you pastbin spamples, if you still have them? Here's one that comes to mind: http://pastebin.com/zVEH2h02 That's going to be problematic as the comment isn't gibberish, it's a bunch of pr

Re: New spam rule for specific content

2013-08-11 Thread Amir 'CG' Caspi
At 7:20 PM -0700 08/11/2013, John Hardin wrote: The unbounded matches you're using probably caused the RE engine to get stuck backing off and retrying. That's what I figured. That's why I changed things to the current version, which is "bounded" by the end-tag of the comment. My current ver

Re: New spam rule for specific content

2013-08-11 Thread John Hardin
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013, Amir 'CG' Caspi wrote: At 6:56 PM -0700 08/11/2013, John Hardin wrote: I'm also going to make FP-avoidance changes that should also help. Care to share? =) Everything is publicly visible in my sandbox: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/spamassassin/trunk/rulesrc/sandbox/jhar

Re: New spam rule for specific content

2013-08-11 Thread John Hardin
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013, Amir 'CG' Caspi wrote: At 9:31 PM -0400 08/11/2013, Alex wrote: Are you using sqlgrey? If not, it's incredible and you should try it. I have not implemented any sort of greylisting yet. I can't use sqlgrey because I don't use postfix... my server runs sendmail. I'm sur

Re: New spam rule for specific content

2013-08-11 Thread Amir 'CG' Caspi
At 6:56 PM -0700 08/11/2013, John Hardin wrote: I'm also going to make FP-avoidance changes that should also help. Care to share? =) Just make sure that the rule does not match the --> comment-end token I tried doing that and it caused SA to hang... couldn't figure out why the regex wasn't

Re: New spam rule for specific content

2013-08-11 Thread John Hardin
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013, Amir 'CG' Caspi wrote: At 2:22 AM -0600 08/11/2013, Amir 'CG' Caspi wrote: My regex is valid and appropriate for those comments... I tested it at regexpal.com, which shows that all three comments match just fine (all three get highlighted). So... why is SA hitting only o

Re: New spam rule for specific content

2013-08-11 Thread Amir 'CG' Caspi
At 9:31 PM -0400 08/11/2013, Alex wrote: Can you post this rule again so we can investigate? # HTML comment gibberish # Looks for sequence of 100 or more "words" (alphanum + punct separated by whitespace) within HTML comment rawbody HTML_COMMENT_GIBBERISH //im describe HTML_COMMENT_GIBBERISH

Re: New spam rule for specific content

2013-08-11 Thread Alex
Hi, > Further confusion. Received another of these types of spam today: > > http://pastebin.com/YywcFkui > > My new HTML_COMMENT_GIBBERISH rule didn't hit on this one at all. Running Can you post this rule again so we can investigate? How do you find the SPAMMY_URI_PATTERNS rule is performing?

Re: New spam rule for specific content

2013-08-11 Thread Amir 'CG' Caspi
At 2:22 AM -0600 08/11/2013, Amir 'CG' Caspi wrote: My regex is valid and appropriate for those comments... I tested it at regexpal.com, which shows that all three comments match just fine (all three get highlighted). So... why is SA hitting only on the final comment, and ignoring the first tw

Re: New spam rule for specific content

2013-08-11 Thread Amir Caspi
On Aug 11, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote: > i created MSG_ID_INSTAFILE_BIZ and HTML_ERROR_TAGS_X_HTML , but even without > this rules its spam It is NOW, it was not when it was originally processed, as you can see from the SA headers included in the pastebin. If you read the messages

Re: New spam rule for specific content

2013-08-11 Thread Benny Pedersen
Amir 'CG' Caspi skrev den 2013-08-11 10:22: http://pastebin.com/VCtvzjzV Content analysis details: (10.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description -- -- -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good repu

Re: New spam rule for specific content

2013-08-11 Thread Amir 'CG' Caspi
At 1:41 PM -0600 08/10/2013, Amir 'CG' Caspi wrote: (The HTML comment gibberish rule would be a big step here, since that's one of the few things that would distinguish this from ham... unlikely that a real person would embed tens of KB of comment gibberish.) OK, I'm trying to test an HTML co

Re: New spam rule for specific content

2013-08-10 Thread John Hardin
On Sat, 10 Aug 2013, Amir 'CG' Caspi wrote: At 2:17 PM -0700 08/10/2013, John Hardin wrote: Perhaps it's time to bring FuzzyOCR up-to-date...? Is this something I need to manually update or something that needs updating in the SA distribution? FuzzyOCR was a SA plugin a few years back. It

Re: New spam rule for specific content

2013-08-10 Thread Amir 'CG' Caspi
At 2:17 PM -0700 08/10/2013, John Hardin wrote: Perhaps it's time to bring FuzzyOCR up-to-date...? Is this something I need to manually update or something that needs updating in the SA distribution? Thanks. --- Amir

Re: New spam rule for specific content

2013-08-10 Thread John Hardin
On Sat, 10 Aug 2013, Amir 'CG' Caspi wrote: It looks like both this and the previous type of spam are bypassing Bayes by embedding images and using no rendered text. Well, not NO text, but very little, mostly a "successful delivery" message and the unsub/report links. That is, Bayes sees abso

Re: New spam rule for specific content

2013-08-10 Thread Amir 'CG' Caspi
At 10:41 AM -0700 08/09/2013, John Hardin wrote: Can you provide a spample or two? Looks like a similar spam method has come out in recent weeks (since Jul 30, it seems) that uses slightly different footers... example is here: http://pastebin.com/QCmSPzwG Although running SA on this spam _

Re: New spam rule for specific content

2013-08-09 Thread Amir 'CG' Caspi
At 10:41 AM -0700 08/09/2013, John Hardin wrote: Can you provide a spample or two? Sure. http://pastebin.com/VfSCB7fw http://pastebin.com/VCtvzjzV Note the "outl" and "outi" links near the very bottom. The actual domains used in these URIs vary... they used to be .pw, but recently most have

Re: New spam rule for specific content

2013-08-09 Thread Amir 'CG' Caspi
On Fri, August 9, 2013 1:01 pm, RW wrote: > BAYES works on rendered text it doesn't see the HTML. Hmmm. It doesn't see HTML comments, which would appear in rendered HTML source even though they are "invisible?" OK, in that case, I have NO idea why the spam isn't hitting Bayes, because it looks p

Re: New spam rule for specific content

2013-08-09 Thread RW
On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 11:19:08 -0600 Amir 'CG' Caspi wrote: > A number of my users have been receiving spam formatted in a > very specific way which seems to very often miss Bayes... I don't > know why, whether it's because of the HTML gibberish flooding Bayes > with useless tokens (to reduc

Re: New spam rule for specific content

2013-08-09 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 9 Aug 2013, Amir 'CG' Caspi wrote: A number of my users have been receiving spam formatted in a very specific way which seems to very often miss Bayes... Can you provide a spample or two? I recommend this rule be added to the general distribution. They can be added but unless such

New spam rule for specific content

2013-08-09 Thread Amir 'CG' Caspi
Hi all, A number of my users have been receiving spam formatted in a very specific way which seems to very often miss Bayes... I don't know why, whether it's because of the HTML gibberish flooding Bayes with useless tokens (to reduce the relative strength of the spammy tokens), or if it's ju

Re: Blocking new spam wave

2013-07-22 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 7/20/2013 1:35 AM, Andrea wrote: Hi all. Since a few days ago I'm being buried under spam messages that slip through my amavis/SA setup. The messages all look alike: plaintext with random junk + URL in the body. Pastebin with a few examples here: http://g2z.me/ed64d I've tried running a sa

Re: Re: Blocking new spam wave

2013-07-21 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Sun, 2013-07-21 at 16:33 +0200, Andrea wrote: > > On 7/20/13 9:20 AM, "Christian Recktenwald" wrote: > > >On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 07:35:23AM +0200, Andrea wrote: > >> Hi all. > >> > >> Since a few days ago I'm being buried under spam messages that slip > >>through > >> my amavis/SA setup. >

Re: Re: Blocking new spam wave

2013-07-21 Thread Andrea
On 7/20/13 9:20 AM, "Christian Recktenwald" wrote: >On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 07:35:23AM +0200, Andrea wrote: >> Hi all. >> >> Since a few days ago I'm being buried under spam messages that slip >>through >> my amavis/SA setup. >> The messages all look alike: plaintext with random junk + URL in

Re: Blocking new spam wave

2013-07-20 Thread Neil Schwartzman
On Jul 19, 2013, at 10:35 PM, Andrea wrote: > Hi all. > > Since a few days ago I'm being buried under spam messages that slip through > my amavis/SA setup. > The messages all look alike: plaintext with random junk + URL in the body. > Pastebin with a few examples here: http://g2z.me/ed64d > >

Blocking new spam wave

2013-07-19 Thread Andrea
Hi all. Since a few days ago I'm being buried under spam messages that slip through my amavis/SA setup. The messages all look alike: plaintext with random junk + URL in the body. Pastebin with a few examples here: http://g2z.me/ed64d I've tried running a sa-update but I don't have enough samples

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-08-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Good morning *, Am 2009-08-04 13:51:24, schrieb Jason L Tibbitts III: > > "DS" == Dan Schaefer writes: > > DS> I'm glad to see this SPAM traffic has come to a halt. At least on my > DS> mail server... > > Yes, I haven't seen any of those spams since the morning of the 31st. > My servers wer

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-08-05 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "DS" == Dan Schaefer writes: DS> I'm glad to see this SPAM traffic has come to a halt. At least on my DS> mail server... Yes, I haven't seen any of those spams since the morning of the 31st. My servers were rejecting them like mad right up until that point in time (10:30CDT), and then noth

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-08-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi Dan and *, Am 2009-08-04 14:37:46, schrieb Dan Schaefer: > I'm glad to see this SPAM traffic has come to a halt. At least on my > mail server... They have seen, the out spamassassin is working verry efficient. I get only one or two spams per day... which are catched by SA of course. Than

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-08-04 Thread Dan Schaefer
I'm glad to see this SPAM traffic has come to a halt. At least on my mail server... -- Dan Schaefer Web Developer/Systems Analyst Performance Administration Corp.

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-07-23 Thread Kevin Parris
(apologies for top posting, but the email software here does not really do quoting in a way that works out well otherwise) If your mail contains SpamAssassin headers then it was (obviously) processed through SpamAssassin. Just because you have BL checks in your MTA does not necessarily mean th

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-07-23 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Dan Schaefer wrote: > > Are you quite sure that an upstream copy of SA, e.g. in your ISP > > or at a sender site that scans for outgoing spam, hasn't already > > added X-* headers to the message? > > No. Is that even possible to track down? There would probably b

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-07-23 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 12:25 -0400, Dan Schaefer wrote: > > Are you quite sure that an upstream copy of SA, e.g. in your ISP or at a > > sender site that scans for outgoing spam, hasn't already added X-* > > headers to the message? > > > > > > Martin > > > > > No. Is that even possible to track d

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-07-23 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Dan Schaefer wrote: Are you quite sure that an upstream copy of SA, e.g. in your ISP or at a sender site that scans for outgoing spam, hasn't already added X-* headers to the message? No. Is that even possible to track down? There would probably be an X-Spam-Checker-V

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-07-23 Thread Dan Schaefer
Are you quite sure that an upstream copy of SA, e.g. in your ISP or at a sender site that scans for outgoing spam, hasn't already added X-* headers to the message? No. Is that even possible to track down? There would probably be an X-Spam-Checker-Version header in your inbound mail strea

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-07-23 Thread Dan Schaefer
Are you quite sure that an upstream copy of SA, e.g. in your ISP or at a sender site that scans for outgoing spam, hasn't already added X-* headers to the message? Martin No. Is that even possible to track down? -- Dan Schaefer Web Developer/Systems Analyst Performance Administration Cor

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-07-23 Thread Martin Gregorie
Dan Schaefer wrote: > > If this is the case, then why does my email have the X-* headers in > it? I have nothing in my postfix header_checks to discard the BL > rules. Does anyone have a detailed flow chart of SA/postfix setup and > describes blacklisting? Or even a webpage describing the proces

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-07-23 Thread Charles Gregory
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, Dan Schaefer wrote: For those of you that manage these rules, URI_OBFU_X9_WS, URI_OBFU_WWW, AE_MEDS38, AE_MEDS39 did not mark this email as spam http://pastebin.com/m40f7cff4 The URI is not obfuscated, therefore it triggered the URIBL tests properly (and scored 3 additio

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-07-23 Thread Bowie Bailey
Dan Schaefer wrote: It means that if you were using BL at MTA level your SA might never have seen the message at all. No your rule would not be "overlooked" 'because the site is in a blacklist' *unless* you were using the BL in your MTA and rejected the transaction from a blacklisted IP add

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-07-23 Thread Dan Schaefer
It means that if you were using BL at MTA level your SA might never have seen the message at all. No your rule would not be "overlooked" 'because the site is in a blacklist' *unless* you were using the BL in your MTA and rejected the transaction from a blacklisted IP address and, thus, never

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-07-23 Thread Dan Schaefer
>For those of you that manage these rules, >URI_OBFU_X9_WS, URI_OBFU_WWW, AE_MEDS38, AE_MEDS39 did not mark this email as spam I'm up to AE_MED45, so I wouldn't expect AE_MEDS38 and 39 to be hitting anything currently. >http://pastebin.com/m40f7cff4 This is not an obfuscated domain. You

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-07-23 Thread Daniel J McDonald
On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 07:34 +0100, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > It's catching on :-) this new obfuscation is already caught by AE_MED45, but I can foresee a variant that might not match... How about: body__MED_OB /\bw{2,3}(?:[[:punct:][:space:]]{1,5}|[[:space:][:punct:]]{1,3}dot[[

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-07-22 Thread Kevin Parris
It means that if you were using BL at MTA level your SA might never have seen the message at all. No your rule would not be "overlooked" 'because the site is in a blacklist' *unless* you were using the BL in your MTA and rejected the transaction from a blacklisted IP address and, thus, never su

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-07-22 Thread McDonald, Dan
>From: Dan Schaefer [mailto:d...@performanceadmin.com] >For those of you that manage these rules, >URI_OBFU_X9_WS, URI_OBFU_WWW, AE_MEDS38, AE_MEDS39 did not mark this email as >spam I'm up to AE_MED45, so I wouldn't expect AE_MEDS38 and 39 to be hitting anything currently. >http://pastebin.co

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-07-22 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Wed, July 22, 2009 21:56, Dan Schaefer wrote: > Does this mean that if I have a custom rule to search for exactly the > "via" site, my rule will be overlooked because the site is in a blacklist? what problem ? -- xpoint

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-07-22 Thread Dan Schaefer
Benny Pedersen wrote: On Wed, July 22, 2009 21:39, Dan Schaefer wrote: For those of you that manage these rules, URI_OBFU_X9_WS, URI_OBFU_WWW, AE_MEDS38, AE_MEDS39 did not mark this email as spam http://pastebin.com/m40f7cff4 reject it with rbl testing in mta, and its found in blackli

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-07-22 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Wed, July 22, 2009 21:39, Dan Schaefer wrote: > For those of you that manage these rules, > URI_OBFU_X9_WS, URI_OBFU_WWW, AE_MEDS38, AE_MEDS39 did not mark this email as > spam > http://pastebin.com/m40f7cff4 reject it with rbl testing in mta, and its found in blacklist, reason it not found

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-07-22 Thread Dan Schaefer
For those of you that manage these rules, URI_OBFU_X9_WS, URI_OBFU_WWW, AE_MEDS38, AE_MEDS39 did not mark this email as spam http://pastebin.com/m40f7cff4 -- Dan Schaefer Web Developer/Systems Analyst Performance Administration Corp.

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