Re: TTL on DNS records (was Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR)

2016-05-17 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Tue, 17 May 2016 21:42:15 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > discuss that with the pople of SOBRS Aren't we just a ray of fucking sunshine? Luckily, I have http://search.cpan.org/~dskoll/Mail-ThreadKiller/ to help me out. Regards, Dianne.

Re: TTL on DNS records (was Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR)

2016-05-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.05.2016 um 20:19 schrieb Dianne Skoll: On Tue, 17 May 2016 18:50:29 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: NOBODY is talking about BACKLIST short TTL it's all about de-listing when you got blacklisted for good reasons IMO, the TTL is a completely irrelevant factor when considering whether or no

Re: TTL on DNS records (was Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR)

2016-05-17 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Tue, 17 May 2016 18:50:29 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > >> NOBODY is talking about BACKLIST short TTL > >> it's all about de-listing when you got blacklisted for good reasons > > IMO, the TTL is a completely irrelevant factor when considering > > whether or not to blacklist an IP. I do not be

Re: TTL on DNS records (was Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR)

2016-05-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.05.2016 um 17:25 schrieb Dianne Skoll: On Tue, 17 May 2016 17:14:37 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: NOBODY is talking about BACKLIST short TTL it's all about de-listing when you got blacklisted for good reasons IMO, the TTL is a completely irrelevant factor when considering whether or not

Re: TTL on DNS records (was Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR)

2016-05-17 Thread Bill Cole
On 16 May 2016, at 10:24, jdebert wrote: On Mon, 16 May 2016 12:25:10 +0100 Dominic Benson wrote: Accepting that not all ISPs are as helpful as they might be, I can't easily think of a legitimate reason for needing the TTL on the PTR of a mail server to be small, so if a blacklist operator f

Re: TTL on DNS records (was Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR)

2016-05-17 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Tue, 17 May 2016 17:14:37 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > NOBODY is talking about BACKLIST short TTL > it's all about de-listing when you got blacklisted for good reasons IMO, the TTL is a completely irrelevant factor when considering whether or not to blacklist an IP. I do not believe there's

Re: TTL on DNS records (was Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR)

2016-05-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.05.2016 um 16:24 schrieb jdebert: On Mon, 16 May 2016 12:25:10 +0100 Dominic Benson wrote: Accepting that not all ISPs are as helpful as they might be, I can't easily think of a legitimate reason for needing the TTL on the PTR of a mail server to be small, so if a blacklist operator f

Re: TTL on DNS records (was Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR)

2016-05-17 Thread jdebert
On Mon, 16 May 2016 12:25:10 +0100 Dominic Benson wrote: >> Accepting that not all ISPs are as helpful as they might be, I can't > easily think of a legitimate reason for needing the TTL on the PTR of > a mail server to be small, so if a blacklist operator finds it an > effective way to manage re

Re: TTL on DNS records (was Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR)

2016-05-16 Thread Dominic Benson
On 16/05/16 12:10, Dianne Skoll wrote: > On Mon, 16 May 2016 09:12:54 +0200 > Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > >> short ttl's are more likely on abusers' DNS. good for refusing >> delisting. > I would love to see data on the correlation. I think it's pretty > mild. A few random tests on consumer

Re: TTL on DNS records (was Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR)

2016-05-16 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Mon, 16 May 2016 09:12:54 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > short ttl's are more likely on abusers' DNS. good for refusing > delisting. I would love to see data on the correlation. I think it's pretty mild. A few random tests on consumer cable IPs reveals TTLs for the reverse DNS rangin

Re: TTL on DNS records (was Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR)

2016-05-16 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
>That seems a little aggressive, IMO. On Sun, 15 May 2016 18:08:31 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: I don't think so. If you have a mail server, you don't change its DNS records very often. On 15.05.16 20:47, Dianne Skoll wrote: Maybe, but the TTL on the DNS records has nothing to do wi

Re: TTL on DNS records (was Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR)

2016-05-15 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Sun, 15 May 2016 18:08:31 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > >That seems a little aggressive, IMO. > I don't think so. If you have a mail server, you don't change its DNS > records very often. Maybe, but the TTL on the DNS records has nothing to do with whether or not an address is part o

Re: TTL on DNS records (was Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR)

2016-05-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.05.2016 um 02:26 schrieb Bill Cole: On 15 May 2016, at 9:51, Dianne Skoll wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2016 13:25:34 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: Note that the TTL is 3600 for both reverse and forward records. There are blacklists that won'd delist your IP if your TTL is this short,

Re: TTL on DNS records (was Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR)

2016-05-15 Thread Bill Cole
On 15 May 2016, at 9:51, Dianne Skoll wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2016 13:25:34 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: Note that the TTL is 3600 for both reverse and forward records. There are blacklists that won'd delist your IP if your TTL is this short, e.g. sorbs requirs at least 14400. Accordin

Re: TTL on DNS records (was Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR)

2016-05-15 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Sun, 15 May 2016 13:25:34 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: Note that the TTL is 3600 for both reverse and forward records. There are blacklists that won'd delist your IP if your TTL is this short, e.g. sorbs requirs at least 14400. On 15.05.16 09:51, Dianne Skoll wrote: What, really? W

TTL on DNS records (was Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR)

2016-05-15 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Sun, 15 May 2016 13:25:34 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > Note that the TTL is 3600 for both reverse and forward records. > There are blacklists that won'd delist your IP if your TTL is this > short, e.g. sorbs requirs at least 14400. What, really? What's the rationale for that require

Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2016-05-15 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 13.05.16 13:42, Robert Boyl wrote: Thanks a lot for your answer, sorry for confusion. But why add such a high score of 3,24 just before the host that sent my server mail is webmail-201.76.63.163.ig.com.br ? Its considered a dynamic IP? It isnt, its IGs server sending mail to our server. 16

Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2016-05-14 Thread John Hardin
On Sat, 14 May 2016, Bill Cole wrote: 4. The fact that SA is probably not alone in detecting that as a dynamic name is no excuse. Note the relevant rule definition: meta HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR (__HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR && !HELO_STATIC_HOST) So a framework is already in place by which ex

Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2016-05-14 Thread Bill Cole
calable simple naming scheme for a complex mail system with functionally identical machines whose only obvious differentiator is each one's unique IP address. 4. The fact that SA is probably not alone in detecting that as a dynamic name is no excuse. Note the relevant rule definition: meta HELO_

Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2016-05-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.05.2016 um 04:14 schrieb Kim Roar Foldøy Hauge: On Sat, 14 May 2016, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 13.05.2016 um 20:26 schrieb Kim Roar Foldøy Hauge: On Fri, 13 May 2016, Joe Quinn wrote: > The solution is to give your mail servers better hostnames that clue > into the narrower scope of t

Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2016-05-13 Thread Kim Roar Foldøy Hauge
On Sat, 14 May 2016, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 13.05.2016 um 20:26 schrieb Kim Roar Foldøy Hauge: On Fri, 13 May 2016, Joe Quinn wrote: > The solution is to give your mail servers better hostnames that clue > into the narrower scope of their purpose. This is NOT a practical solution. You c

Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2016-05-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.05.2016 um 20:26 schrieb Kim Roar Foldøy Hauge: On Fri, 13 May 2016, Joe Quinn wrote: The solution is to give your mail servers better hostnames that clue into the narrower scope of their purpose. This is NOT a practical solution. You can't expect administrators to know about this prob

Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2016-05-13 Thread David Jones
>From: Daniel J. Luke >Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 3:42 PM >To: David Jones >Cc: Vincent Fox; users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR >On May 13, 2016, at 4:24 PM, David Jones wrote: >> This is a very simple concept and yet most mail

Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2016-05-13 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On May 13, 2016, at 4:24 PM, David Jones wrote: > This is a very simple concept and yet most mail admins don't know it or > follow it. indeed. I haven't measured in a while, but the equivalent of postfix's 'reject_unknown_client_hostname' was the single most-effective anti-spam measure I ever

Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2016-05-13 Thread Vincent Fox
On 05/13/2016 01:24 PM, David Jones wrote: This is a very simple concept and yet most mail admins don't know it or follow it. I know right? IMO network/firewall backgrounds are worse though. They are used to thinking in IP all day and DNS is just this optional convenience. Cheers.

Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2016-05-13 Thread David Jones
> >From: Vincent Fox >Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 2:57 PM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR >On 05/13/2016 12:29 PM, Daniel J. Luke wrote: >> >> While you are at it, make sur

Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2016-05-13 Thread Vincent Fox
On 05/13/2016 12:29 PM, Daniel J. Luke wrote: While you are at it, make sure your forward and reverse dns match. At least weekly, I get someone bickering with me that reverse DNS is not any kind of requirement to be a legitimate server. Often it comes from well-paid network administrators.

Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2016-05-13 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On May 13, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Kim Roar Foldøy Hauge wrote: > This is NOT a practical solution. You can't expect administrators to know > about this problem, some styles of hostnames not playing well with SA. Note that this isn't just a 'spamassassin' issue. You will likely experience delivery pr

Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2016-05-13 Thread Kim Roar Foldøy Hauge
On Fri, 13 May 2016, Joe Quinn wrote: SA uses IP-in-name as a machine-decidable definition of a dynamic IP, since you can't really automate it otherwise. This heuristic holds in the vast majority of cases, and is effective against a huge class of spam that comes from public ISPs who don't bloc

Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2016-05-13 Thread Joe Quinn
this? Thanks 2016-05-01 11:06 GMT-03:00 RW <mailto:rwmailli...@googlemail.com>>: On Sun, 1 May 2016 10:20:09 -0300 Robert Boyl wrote: > Hi, everyone > > Ive seen some discussion in Spamassassin's bugzilla about this > HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR rule,

Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2016-05-13 Thread Robert Boyl
this? Thanks 2016-05-01 11:06 GMT-03:00 RW : > On Sun, 1 May 2016 10:20:09 -0300 > Robert Boyl wrote: > > > Hi, everyone > > > > Ive seen some discussion in Spamassassin's bugzilla about this > > HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR rule, some unanswered over years. > &g

Re: understanding HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2016-05-01 Thread RW
On Sun, 1 May 2016 10:20:09 -0300 Robert Boyl wrote: > Hi, everyone > > Ive seen some discussion in Spamassassin's bugzilla about this > HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR rule, some unanswered over years. > > It says in description: # (require an alpha first, as legit > HEL

Re: Bad pattern in HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR check?

2010-11-10 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 11:25 +0200, Angel L. Mateo wrote: > We are having a problema with one of our users that all his email was > marked as spam. The problem is that all his emails has the > HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR (or HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR2) check, because > spamassassin thinks that th

Re: Bad pattern in HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR check?

2010-11-09 Thread Angel L. Mateo
most-human-readable way to represent them. It is valid to represent an IPv4 address as a 32-bit hex value. On 08.11.10 11:51, Angel L. Mateo wrote: I know this, but is '72d07e260c444a7' an IP address? Not for me, but for HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR it is. Are you sure it's the

Re: Bad pattern in HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR check?

2010-11-08 Thread John Hardin
ost-human-readable way to represent them. It is valid to represent an IPv4 address as a 32-bit hex value. I know this, but is '72d07e260c444a7' an IP address? Not for me, but for HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR it is. ...good point. A valid IPv4 would only be 8 hex digits. -- John

Re: Bad pattern in HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR check?

2010-11-08 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
readable way to represent them. It is valid to >> represent an IPv4 address as a 32-bit hex value. On 08.11.10 11:51, Angel L. Mateo wrote: > I know this, but is '72d07e260c444a7' an IP address? Not for me, but > for HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR it is. Are you sure it's t

Re: Bad pattern in HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR check?

2010-11-08 Thread Angel L. Mateo
valid to represent an IPv4 address as a 32-bit hex value. I know this, but is '72d07e260c444a7' an IP address? Not for me, but for HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR it is. -- Angel L. Mateo Martínez Sección de Telemática Área de Tecnologías de la Información _o) y las Comunicaciones Aplica

Re: Bad pattern in HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR check?

2010-10-28 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010, Angel L. Mateo wrote: Is there any reason for this pattern being so general? Or this is a bug? IPv4 addresses are numbers (uint4 to be precise), dotted quad notation is just the most-human-readable way to represent them. It is valid to represent an IPv4 address as a 32-

Bad pattern in HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR check?

2010-10-28 Thread Angel L. Mateo
Hello, We are having a problema with one of our users that all his email was marked as spam. The problem is that all his emails has the HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR (or HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR2) check, because spamassassin thinks that the connection used the IP address in the helo commando, but not

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR false positive

2009-08-20 Thread mouss
Matus UHLAR - fantomas a écrit : >>> On 19.08.09 00:48, mouss wrote: The name of the rule is worng, but the result is ok. Instead of "dynamic", I suggest: "UMO" for "Unidentifiable Mailing Object". whether static-ip- is static or not doesn't matter. a lot of junk comes from

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR false positive

2009-08-19 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> > On 19.08.09 00:48, mouss wrote: > >> The name of the rule is worng, but the result is ok. Instead of > >> "dynamic", I suggest: "UMO" for "Unidentifiable Mailing Object". whether > >> static-ip- is static or not doesn't matter. a lot of junk comes from > >> such hosts, and we can't report/c

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR false positive

2009-08-19 Thread mouss
Matus UHLAR - fantomas a écrit : >> Bob Proulx a écrit : >>> The following header line: >>> >>> Received: from static-96-254-126-11.tampfl.fios.verizon.net >>> [96.254.126.11] by >>> windows12.uvault.com with SMTP; Wed, 12 Aug 2009

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR false positive

2009-08-18 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> Bob Proulx a écrit : > > The following header line: > > > > Received: from static-96-254-126-11.tampfl.fios.verizon.net > > [96.254.126.11] by > > windows12.uvault.com with SMTP; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:26:40 -0400 > > > > Hits the HE

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR false positive

2009-08-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Michael Scheidell wrote: > if this is a client of yours, you might help them get a VALID RDNS and > setup the FQDN for their mail server. > (more likely, its a zombie spambot anyway, ) Not related to me in any way. The mail message generated from there was legitimate. It came *to* a client of

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR false positive

2009-08-18 Thread mouss
Bob Proulx a écrit : > The following header line: > > Received: from static-96-254-126-11.tampfl.fios.verizon.net [96.254.126.11] > by > windows12.uvault.com with SMTP; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:26:40 -0400 > > Hits the HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR rule. I tested it this w

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR false positive

2009-08-18 Thread RW
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:51:46 +0200 Per Jessen wrote: > Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > another serious question: should IPs with statically assigned IP > > addresses get the same processing as if they were dynamically > > assigned? > > Probably not, but there's no guaranteed way of telling

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR false positive

2009-08-18 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > another serious question: should IPs with statically assigned IP > > addresses get the same processing as if they were dynamically > > assigned? On 18.08.09 16:51, Per Jessen wrote: > Probably not, but there's no guaranteed way of telling them apart. there is

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR false positive

2009-08-18 Thread Per Jessen
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > another serious question: should IPs with statically assigned IP > addresses get the same processing as if they were dynamically > assigned? Probably not, but there's no guaranteed way of telling them apart. > Of course it's much better to have personalised DNS n

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR false positive

2009-08-18 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> Bob Proulx wrote: >> The following header line: >> >> Received: from static-96-254-126-11.tampfl.fios.verizon.net >> [96.254.126.11] by >> windows12.uvault.com with SMTP; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:26:40 -0400 >> >> Hits the HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADD

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR false positive

2009-08-18 Thread Michael Scheidell
Bob Proulx wrote: The following header line: Received: from static-96-254-126-11.tampfl.fios.verizon.net [96.254.126.11] by windows12.uvault.com with SMTP; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:26:40 -0400 Hits the HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR rule. I tested it this way: $ perl -le 'if ("sta

HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR false positive

2009-08-17 Thread Bob Proulx
The following header line: Received: from static-96-254-126-11.tampfl.fios.verizon.net [96.254.126.11] by windows12.uvault.com with SMTP; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:26:40 -0400 Hits the HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR rule. I tested it this way: $ perl -le 'if ("static-96-

CLOSED: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR not explainable

2007-05-08 Thread DogMatz
de (most clients will use > the local hostname for the HELO), or check your MTA or mail client > program docs for how to explicitly specify what it says in the HELO. > > That said, I would observe that HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR probably shouldn't > fire on a HELO containing the

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR not explainable

2007-05-08 Thread John D. Hardin
you should either verify that your hostname is set to server.marcelkorte.de (most clients will use the local hostname for the HELO), or check your MTA or mail client program docs for how to explicitly specify what it says in the HELO. That said, I would observe that HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR probably should

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR not explainable

2007-05-08 Thread DogMatz
hosteurope.de". But still. I don´t understand where that might come frome since nslookup 87.230.7.51 shows the correct hostname server.marcelkorte.de. Daryl C. W. O wrote: > > DogMatz wrote: >> Emails from one of my accounts often get the HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR but I >> can´t

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR not explainable

2007-05-08 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
DogMatz wrote: Emails from one of my accounts often get the HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR but I can´t see why! Nor can we since you didn't include the headers from the actual message scanned, rather just the report_safe encapsulation headers. Daryl Check this mail: Received: from localho

HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR not explainable

2007-05-08 Thread DogMatz
Emails from one of my accounts often get the HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR but I can´t see why! Check this mail: Received: from localhost by webbox413.server-home.net with SpamAssassin (version 3.1.3); Tue, 08 May 2007 15:52:01 +0200 From: Marcel Korte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2007-04-02 Thread Matt Kettler
Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: > Am Montag, 2. April 2007 17:09 schrieb Scott Lockwood: > >> On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 17:01 +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: >> >>> I’m sending my mails via my DSL provider’s SMTP server. >>> >> Which puts in the headers that it came from a node in it's network, >

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2007-04-02 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
tion as sending the mail via my DSL provider’s SMTP server. Meanwhile I realized that not every mail I send the way I described suffers from the HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR problem but the mail I attached to my other message to this list does. Can anyone figure out what the problem with exactly this

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2007-04-02 Thread Scott Lockwood
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 17:01 +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: > I’m sending my mails via my DSL provider’s SMTP server. Which puts in the headers that it came from a node in it's network, which makes the machine the mail originated from, you guessed it, one that has a dynamic IP address. Your best b

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2007-04-02 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Montag, 2. April 2007 17:01 schrieb Wolfgang Jeltsch: > Hello, > > what does HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR mean? Why is it rated that high? > > The reason behind my question is that most of my e-mails seem to get > HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR assigned to them. Okay, maybe not most of them.

HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2007-04-02 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Hello, what does HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR mean? Why is it rated that high? The reason behind my question is that most of my e-mails seem to get HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR assigned to them. In the From: field, I typically use an address which belongs to a domain registered by me and pointing to my own

Re: FP because of HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2006-11-23 Thread John Rudd
John Andersen wrote: On Thursday 23 November 2006 00:32, Nigel Frankcom wrote: t's worth hassling your ISP. If they want to sell 'business' packages then an rDNS *should* be part of the deal (imo). If your current ISP won't do it, switch to one that will, they are out there. I'm surprised none s

Re: FP because of HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2006-11-23 Thread John Andersen
On Thursday 23 November 2006 00:32, Nigel Frankcom wrote: > t's worth hassling your ISP. If they want to sell 'business' packages > then an rDNS *should* be part of the deal (imo). If your current ISP > won't do it, switch to one that will, they are out there. I'm > surprised none seem to use it as

Re: FP because of HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2006-11-23 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 00:15:16 -0900, John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Wednesday 22 November 2006 22:04, Bob Proulx wrote: >> But in this case it is an example of poor form for the forward and >> reverse dns not to match.  If you are running a mail server this is >> one of the things tha

Re: FP because of HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2006-11-23 Thread John Andersen
On Wednesday 22 November 2006 22:04, Bob Proulx wrote: > But in this case it is an example of poor form for the forward and > reverse dns not to match.  If you are running a mail server this is > one of the things that should be set up properly for it.  When that is > fixed then the rule won't trig

Re: FP because of HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2006-11-22 Thread Bob Proulx
wrote: > | messju mohr wrote: > | > mails from our host 80.237.202.55 > (ds80-237-202-55.dedicated.hosteurope.de) > | > are tagged as HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR. Said IP is not dynamic, it's a > | > dedicated server hosted at german ISP (Host Europe GmbH). > |

Re: FP because of HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2006-11-22 Thread qqqq
| messju mohr wrote: | > Hello, | > | > mails from our host 80.237.202.55 (ds80-237-202-55.dedicated.hosteurope.de) | > are tagged as HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR. Said IP is not dynamic, it's a | > dedicated server hosted at german ISP (Host Europe GmbH). | > | > How can we get

Re: FP because of HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2006-11-22 Thread Matt Kettler
messju mohr wrote: > Hello, > > mails from our host 80.237.202.55 (ds80-237-202-55.dedicated.hosteurope.de) > are tagged as HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR. Said IP is not dynamic, it's a > dedicated server hosted at german ISP (Host Europe GmbH). > > How can we get our hos

Re: [spamassassin] Re: FP because of HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2006-11-22 Thread messju mohr
On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 03:39:43PM +, Justin Mason wrote: > > messju mohr writes: > > mails from our host 80.237.202.55 (ds80-237-202-55.dedicated.hosteurope.de) > > are tagged as HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR. Said IP is not dynamic, it's a > > dedicated server hosted at

Re: FP because of HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2006-11-22 Thread Justin Mason
messju mohr writes: > mails from our host 80.237.202.55 (ds80-237-202-55.dedicated.hosteurope.de) > are tagged as HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR. Said IP is not dynamic, it's a > dedicated server hosted at german ISP (Host Europe GmbH). > > How can we get our host removed from the

FP because of HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2006-11-22 Thread messju mohr
Hello, mails from our host 80.237.202.55 (ds80-237-202-55.dedicated.hosteurope.de) are tagged as HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR. Said IP is not dynamic, it's a dedicated server hosted at german ISP (Host Europe GmbH). How can we get our host removed from the list of DYNAMIC_IPS? thanks in advance messju

Re: FP for HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP and HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2006-10-18 Thread Ugo Bellavance
Steven Dickenson wrote: On Oct 18, 2006, at 11:47 AM, Ugo Bellavance wrote: This should be fixed, as many Videotron clients purchase a static IP address to have their own mail server. This service also comes with all ports open (dynamic has port 25 blocked in/out), so they are almose telling

Re: FP for HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP and HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2006-10-18 Thread Steven Dickenson
On Oct 18, 2006, at 11:47 AM, Ugo Bellavance wrote: This should be fixed, as many Videotron clients purchase a static IP address to have their own mail server. This service also comes with all ports open (dynamic has port 25 blocked in/out), so they are almose telling their clients to deli

FP for HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP and HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2006-10-18 Thread Ugo Bellavance
Hi, An ISP in canada, Videotron, hits this rule with the RDNS of their new offering: Static IP addresses on cable modem. RDNS: Dynamic: modemcable002.152-81-70.mc.videotron.ca. Static: modemcable014.58-70-69.static.videotron.ca This should be fixed, as many Videotron clients purchase a st

Re: fetchmail and HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR when sender is local

2006-08-17 Thread Logan Shaw
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Chris Thielen wrote: So it seems the root of my problem is that users are connecting to the office smtp server (also our primary MX) without authentication. That seems to be a legitimate hit for the dynamic ip lists. However it is also the only legitimate smtp server for

Re: fetchmail and HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR when sender is local

2006-08-17 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Chris Thielen wrote: So it seems the root of my problem is that users are connecting to the office smtp server (also our primary MX) without authentication. That seems to be a legitimate hit for the dynamic ip lists. However it is also the only legitimate smtp server for these people to use.

Re: fetchmail and HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR when sender is local

2006-08-17 Thread Chris Thielen
Oooh, reply to multiple emails at once? I so crzy! jdow wrote: For brute force solutions you could use whitelist_from_rcvd. But even that is "awkward". Is your office server on your trusted list? Yeah, I tried with and without the office server on the trusted list with no apparent chang

Re: fetchmail and HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR when sender is local

2006-08-16 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Chris Thielen wrote: Thanks for the response. Benny Pedersen wrote: 1.4 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) [SPF failed: Please see http://spf.pobox.com/why.html?sender=blahblahblah] update Mail::SPF::Query domain is not pobox but openspf duly noted

Re: fetchmail and HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR when sender is local

2006-08-16 Thread jdow
mail server (office) <-- fetchmail (home) <-- spamassassin When a message of this sort is retrieved, I get these rule hits: 4.2 HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDRRelay HELO'd using suspicious hostname (IP addr 1) 1.4 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF

Re: fetchmail and HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR when sender is local

2006-08-16 Thread Chris Thielen
Thanks for the response. Benny Pedersen wrote: 1.4 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) [SPF failed: Please see http://spf.pobox.com/why.html?sender=blahblahblah] update Mail::SPF::Query domain is not pobox but openspf duly noted... I am using debian

Re: fetchmail and HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR when sender is local

2006-08-16 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Wed, August 16, 2006 18:16, Chris Thielen wrote: > CoWorker (dialup) --> mail server (office) <-- fetchmail (home) <-- you can make fetchmail so it does not add the its own recieved headers > 1.4 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) > [SPF failed: Please se

fetchmail and HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR when sender is local

2006-08-16 Thread Chris Thielen
massassin When a message of this sort is retrieved, I get these rule hits: 4.2 HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDRRelay HELO'd using suspicious hostname (IP addr 1) 1.4 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) [SPF failed: Please see http://spf.pobo

Re: False positive for HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC & HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2005-10-20 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Matt Kettler wrote: Received: from FOOBAR (adsl-xx-xx-xx-xx.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [xx.xx.xx.xx]) by > mail1..com with SMTP; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:36:54 -0600 It doesn't like it when the HELLO is adsl-xx-xx-xx-xx.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.netWhy? Because a trusted host shouldn't be recei

Re: False positive for HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC & HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2005-10-19 Thread Matt Kettler
Mark London wrote: > Hi - spamassassin is running on psfcsv1.psfc.mit.edu (has been for > several years, with same configuration)/ Ok, does psfcsv1.psfc.mit.edu resolve psfcsv1.psfc.mit.edu to a reserved IP? >I don't use trusted_networks. Ok, so you use the auto-guessed trusted_networks list.

Re: Fwd: Re: False positive for HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC & HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2005-10-18 Thread Mark London
Thanks for the info! Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: Mark London wrote: Mark London wrote: Mark London wrote: Hi - We are receiving mail from a site that includes the headers: This causes spamassassin to flag it with: HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR Rec

Re: Fwd: Re: False positive for HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC & HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2005-10-18 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Mark London wrote: Mark London wrote: Mark London wrote: Hi - We are receiving mail from a site that includes the headers: This causes spamassassin to flag it with: HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR Received: from mail1.easyasphosting.com

Fwd: Re: False positive for HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC & HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2005-10-18 Thread Mark London
t 2005 18:07:52 -0400 Received: from adsl-xx-xx-xx-xx.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [xx.xx.xx.xx] by mail1..com with SMTP; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:36:54 -0600 This causes spamassassin to flag it with: HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR This easily causes a very high spam

Re: False positive for HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC & HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2005-10-18 Thread Mark London
it with: HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR 1) do you have a trusted_networks setting? If so, does it include "mail1.xxx.com"? If so, are you sure you what to? 2) If you don't have a trusted_networks setting, what would the spamassassin system resolve the IP address o

Re: False positive for HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC & HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2005-10-18 Thread Matt Kettler
ue, 18 Oct 2005 18:07:52 -0400 > Received: from adsl-xx-xx-xx-xx.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [xx.xx.xx.xx] by > mail1..com with SMTP; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:36:54 -0600 > > This causes spamassassin to flag it with: > > HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR 1) do

Re: False positive for HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC & HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2005-10-18 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
-0400 Received: from adsl-xx-xx-xx-xx.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [xx.xx.xx.xx] by mail1..com with SMTP; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:36:54 -0600 This causes spamassassin to flag it with: HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR This easily causes a very high spam score. I've never

False positive for HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC & HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR

2005-10-18 Thread Mark London
-xx-xx-xx.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [xx.xx.xx.xx] by mail1..com with SMTP; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:36:54 -0600 This causes spamassassin to flag it with: HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR This easily causes a very high spam score. I've never seen these tests

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR - score too high?

2005-08-27 Thread wolfgang
In an older episode (Saturday, 27. August 2005 19:24), Robert Menschel wrote: > If you can send me the full email, with headers, so I can compose a > whitelist_from_rcvd rule for it, and if you are personally certain > they do not send spam from that From address, I'll add an entry for > them into

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR - score too high?

2005-08-27 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello wolfgang, Saturday, August 27, 2005, 3:50:20 AM, you wrote: w> we received a Duden newsletter (duden is *the* spelling w> rules/grammar/dictionary publisher in germany) with the header: Wolfgang, If you can send me the full email, with headers, so I can compose a whitelist_from_rcvd rule

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR - score too high?

2005-08-27 Thread List Mail User
de (DesyMail_In_27) with ESMTP id 3B5D6FB90A >for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:00:38 +0200 (MEST) > >It got, among others, the scores >4.4 HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR >2.2 DCC_CHECK >2.4 MIME_HTML_ONLY_MULTI > >This makes me wonder if HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR should get a lower score in

HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR - score too high?

2005-08-27 Thread wolfgang
3B5D6FB90A for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:00:38 +0200 (MEST) It got, among others, the scores 4.4 HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR 2.2 DCC_CHECK 2.4 MIME_HTML_ONLY_MULTI This makes me wonder if HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR should get a lower score in SA in general - I have now lowered it's score in our set

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR And IMP

2005-06-16 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
22.253]) by webmail.fingerprint.fr (IMP) with HTTP for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:05:03 +0200 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on mx.fprt.com X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=6.6 required=5.5 tests=HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR,

HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR And IMP

2005-06-16 Thread jj-ml
YES X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on mx.fprt.com X-Spam-Report: * 2.8 HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR Relay HELO'd using suspicious hostname (IP addr 1) * 1.7 RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL RBL: NJABL: dialup sender did non-local SMTP * [80.13.222.253 liste

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR matches wrongly on hotmail

2005-01-31 Thread Tony Finch
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Matt Kettler wrote: > > The order and spacing of the items after the from keyword is wrong. The > > specification for Received: lines is in RFC 2821. A correctly formatted > > line would be something like > > > > Received: from hotmail.com (bay22-dav1.bay22.hotmail.com > > [64

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR matches wrongly on hotmail

2005-01-31 Thread Tony Finch
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005, Ole Nomann Thomsen wrote: > > So I don't feel able to bugzilla this one - any takers? It isn't a bug in SpamAssassin. Tony. -- f.a.n.finch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://dotat.at/ FAEROES: NORTHWEST 5 TO 7, OCCASIONALLY VARIABLE 3 OR 4 FOR A TIME. RAIN AT TIMES. MODERATE OR GO

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR matches wrongly on hotmail

2005-01-31 Thread Ole Nomann Thomsen
Justin Mason wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Matt Kettler writes: >> At 09:23 AM 1/28/2005, Tony Finch wrote: >> > > Hi, it seems that HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR fires wrongly on this header: >> > > >> > > Recei

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