Re: Bayes & Apache James server

2011-08-03 Thread Jason Bertoch
On 7/29/2011 3:08 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: On 07/29/2011 02:13 PM, Kelson Vibber wrote: > Also, to complete the system, I recall there were some AV-mailets at the age. If possible use> them before SA to catch message carrying viruses. Absolutely - we've got ClamAV running first, before anythin

Re: Bayes & Apache James server

2011-07-30 Thread Dave Funk
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011, Adam Moffett wrote: On 07/29/2011 02:13 PM, Kelson Vibber wrote: > Also, to complete the system, I recall there were some AV-mailets at the age. If possible use> them before SA to catch message carrying viruses. Absolutely - we've got ClamAV running first, before anythin

RE: Bayes & Apache James server

2011-07-29 Thread Kelson Vibber
> -Original Message- > From: David F. Skoll [mailto:d...@roaringpenguin.com] > > It's probably more efficient to have the thing that would block more mail run > first. On our installation, for example, ClamAV stops less than 0.1% of all > mail > (yes, you read that right), so running it f

Re: Bayes & Apache James server

2011-07-29 Thread David F. Skoll
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:08:34 -0400 Adam Moffett wrote: > I've often mused about which should run first, but never did any sort > of testing. Is it pretty much the general consensus that it's less > wasteful for the AV to scan the spam than to have SA scan the malware? It's probably more effici

Re: Bayes & Apache James server

2011-07-29 Thread Adam Moffett
On 07/29/2011 02:13 PM, Kelson Vibber wrote: > Also, to complete the system, I recall there were some AV-mailets at the age. If possible use> them before SA to catch message carrying viruses. Absolutely - we've got ClamAV running first, before anything touches SA, and using some of the SaneS

RE: Bayes & Apache James server

2011-07-29 Thread Kelson Vibber
> That said, I would suggest to not decouple bayes from SA, since I wouldn't > see any advantage > in this approach and you would rather miss the a bayes score from the SA > totals. You would > end having more FPs due to the bayesian mailer running apart and needing > special score > thresholds

RE: Bayes & Apache James server

2011-07-29 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
> From: Kelson Vibber [mailto:k...@tollfreeforwarding.com] > > ...omissis... > > If so, would you recommend: > 1. Sticking with SA's Bayesian filter? > 2. Running SpamAssassin without Bayes, then James' BayesianAnalysis > mailet? > 3. Running James's BayesianAnalysis mailet first, then SpamAssas

Bayes & Apache James server

2011-07-28 Thread Kelson Vibber
I'm setting up the spam/virus filtering on an Apache James mail server, and SpamAssassin is one of the pieces we plan on using. I used to run a Sendmail-based server with SpamAssassin for years at a previous job, so I'm familiar with SA, but I'm still new to James. James includes a plugin for B