Turning pyzor off

2017-02-02 Thread Harry Putnam
I experimented with pyzor and set these in /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf, after installing pyzor use_pyzor 1 pyzor_path /usr/bin/pyzor pyzor_options --homedir /etc/spamassassin I've since commented them out and discontinued the experiment. I assumed that would be the end of pyzor bei

Re: How does sa know when pyzor sees a spam msg?

2017-02-01 Thread Harry Putnam
Matus UHLAR - fantomas writes: [...] Harry wrote: >>How is it all found by procmail? Matus UHLAR responded: > exactly as you use above. It also does not matter if you use pyzor, all > checks SA uses are evaluated that way. > > Simply install pyzor (razor, dcc, ...), activate SA plugins and let

How does sa know when pyzor sees a spam msg?

2017-01-21 Thread Harry Putnam
Having a heck of a time googling for this answer. I'm looking to understand the actual mechanism whereby pyzor tells sa it thinks a message is spam. What does sa look for. My sa setup allows sa to insert X-Spam headers and then procmail looks for certain of those :0fw | /usr/bin/spamc :0

Re: Really getting discouraged... when does the learning happen?

2013-09-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Bart Schaefer writes: > On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >> I've been trying to `teach' SA to spam from ham in my mail system. >> >> I've made it thru two main learning sessions where I ran around 450 >> msgs (each time) thru sa-le

Really getting discouraged... when does the learning happen?

2013-09-15 Thread Harry Putnam
I've been trying to `teach' SA to spam from ham in my mail system. I've made it thru two main learning sessions where I ran around 450 msgs (each time) thru sa-learn spam/ham and yet SA is still incapable of getting it right more than about 40 % or maybe less. Not sure how to figure that out very

Re: SA Scoring... mysterious point loss

2013-09-15 Thread Harry Putnam
RW writes: > On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 11:19:12 -0400 > Harry Putnam wrote: [...] >> I assumed it had something to do with rounding or something so I >> increased the score to 4.1 to get that message to break the spam level >> of 5. >> >> Now the same mail shows

Re: procmail/spassassin training session

2013-09-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Bart Schaefer writes: > On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >> >> 1) Does it matter that I have autolearn turned off in spamassassin >> conf filt 'local.cf' while doing my sandbox work > > No, it doesn't. In fact it's probabl

Re: How to make SA include Report for all msgs

2013-09-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam writes: > Matus UHLAR - fantomas writes: > >> On 15.09.13 08:58, Harry Putnam wrote: >>>How can I make SA include the 'X-Spam-Report:' header and report for >>>all messages rather than just the spam messages? >>> >>>I have `

SA Scoring... mysterious point loss

2013-09-15 Thread Harry Putnam
SA is letting mail thru as ham that should be spam apparently based on what is too low a score (for my mail) for URIBL_JP_SURBL which was 1.9 by default. I pushed it up to 4. But then I see a report that shows a total score of 4.9 when 4.0 is shown for URIBL_JP_SURBL 1.0 is shown for SPF_SOFTFA

Re: How to make SA include Report for all msgs

2013-09-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Matus UHLAR - fantomas writes: > On 15.09.13 08:58, Harry Putnam wrote: >>How can I make SA include the 'X-Spam-Report:' header and report for >>all messages rather than just the spam messages? >> >>I have `report_safe 0' set but that only causes SA to

How to make SA include Report for all msgs

2013-09-15 Thread Harry Putnam
How can I make SA include the 'X-Spam-Report:' header and report for all messages rather than just the spam messages? I have `report_safe 0' set but that only causes SA to includes the Report header for spam msgs.

Re: How to keep SA from Attaching the spammy messages (version control)

2013-09-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Thomas Harold writes: > On 9/13/2013 9:01 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Kris Deugau writes: >> >>> From man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf: >>> >>> report_safe 0 >> >> Thanks, I see I commented it out for some experiment several mnths >> a

Re: How to keep SA from Attaching the spammy messages

2013-09-13 Thread Harry Putnam
Kris Deugau writes: > From man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf: > > report_safe 0 Thanks, I see I commented it out for some experiment several mnths ago, and of course, forgot to uncomment.

How to keep SA from Attaching the spammy messages

2013-09-13 Thread Harry Putnam
I vaguely remember being able to tell SA, maybe in the local.cf file or something, not to attach messages like this: , | [-- Attachment #1 --] | [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 8bit, Size: 1.7K --] | | Spam detection software, running on the system "reader.local.lan", has | identified this in

Re: after sa-learn on spam I get '0' messages read?

2013-09-13 Thread Harry Putnam
snowybunting writes: Harry wrote: >> sa-learn --spam spammail >> Learned tokens from 0 message(s) (0 message(s) examined) >> >> Is this normal output or does it mean just what it appears to, that >> nothing was done? >> >> The file is mbox format, at least 'mutt -f spam' reads it fine. >> >>

after sa-learn on spam I get '0' messages read?

2013-09-13 Thread Harry Putnam
Using spamassassin 3.3.2 on debian linux (testing) I haven't tried teaching spamassasin spam from ham by hand before but looking thru the docs I guess something like: sa-learn --spam spammail (Where spammail is mbox style file) is supposed to be teaching Sa that those messages are spam. But,

Re: check old config against current versions

2011-10-17 Thread Harry Putnam
than an old version, but > > On 10/15, Harry Putnam wrote: >> trusted_networks 192.168.0. > I don't think that was ever necessary, I think 192.168.0.* is included in > SA's default guesses if you don't specify a trusted_networks. But I guess > that's not

check old config against current versions

2011-10-15 Thread Harry Putnam
I found a version of local.cf from a good while back. About a year and just wanted to see if anyone sees something in it that would be incompatible or just wrong for current versions of SA. Its a bit much to ask since its still 96 lines even with all comments and blank lines removed. But still i

Can bayes learning be turned on and off in one procmailrc

2011-05-04 Thread Harry Putnam
I've been thinking about using bayes in learning mode, but I want to do it without disturbing my current mail setup. I thought I might (using procmail) channel a copy of all incoming mail through spamassassin with bayes learning turned on. I'd want bayes learning off in the main mail setup. So

How to get a fresh start in messy old setup

2011-04-29 Thread Harry Putnam
Setup: Single user Linux Desktop, and home Family lan Running: Gentoo Linux (kernel-2.6.33) sendmail-8.14 procmail-3.22 spamassassin-3.3.1 Mail and News reader: emacs/gnus (emacs is version 24) ---- ---=---

Re: ok_locales en Unexpected behavior

2006-02-14 Thread Harry Putnam
"jdow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Nothing of note "short circuits" any of the SpamAssassin tests. They all > have to be evaluated because a positive or negative score might get over- > ridden by subsequent processing. Suppose you had a whitelist entry that > forgot and sent you a message in Spa

Re: ok_locales en Unexpected behavior

2006-02-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, that particular subject looks to only contain ordinary ascii. > Can't hit any CHARSET rules when there's no charachter set to hit. I hadn't understood it was based on a charset being stipulated. > Are you using ok_languages as well? My Mail::Spam

ok_locales en Unexpected behavior

2006-02-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Running spamassassin-3.1.0 I have `ok_locales en' set in local.cf. I had hoped that would cut down on the amount of processing SA has to do, but I see messages with a subject line like this: Subject: Replicas dos melhores relogios That still grind thru lots of processing and never did hit the

Re: non-english messages

2006-02-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Harry Putnam wrote: >> running spamassassin-3.1.0 >> >> I hoped to filter messages on the basis of non-english subject line so >> went looking in the files spama uses. I see something about FOREIGN >> language b

non-english messages

2006-02-12 Thread Harry Putnam
running spamassassin-3.1.0 I hoped to filter messages on the basis of non-english subject line so went looking in the files spama uses. I see something about FOREIGN language but then it dawned on me, being horribly colloquial, not to mention near illiterate, how FOREIGN is totally subjective. F

Keep spama from encapsulating

2006-02-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Where is the info about how to keep spama from encapsulating and just have it modify headers with its own insertions. I've scanned Mail::Spamassassin::Conf But did not see that sort of stuff coverd there

bayes howto documentation

2005-10-01 Thread Harry Putnam
Is there a piece of documentation devoted specifically to using bayes in SA? I'm a long time SA user but have always avoided the bayes angle because it always seems too complicated to learn to use.

Retain original headers

2005-04-07 Thread Harry Putnam
[Possible duplicate Alert... Posted on gmane a few days ago but did not appear on my server... now posted direct to list] Running SA 3.0.2 I may be just missunderstanding something here, if so I hope someone will help me straighten out my flawed view of how this works. I pull down mail from an