Re: Whitelist rules should never pass on SPF fail

2024-05-11 Thread Noel Butler
On 11/05/2024 03:40, Bill Cole wrote: So what? domain owners state hard fail it SHOULD be hard failed, irrespective of if YOU think you know better than THEM or not, if we hardfail we accept the risks that come with it. In practice, there is a prioritizing of whose wishes I prioritize on the

Re: Score 0.001

2024-05-11 Thread jdow
On 20240511 14:56:51, Greg Troxel wrote: Thomas Barth writes: Am 2024-05-11 21:54, schrieb Bill Cole: I have no idea who the Debian "spam analysts" are but I am certain that they are not doing any sort of data-driven dynamic adjustments of scores based on a threshold of 6.3 no

Re: Score 0.001

2024-05-11 Thread Thomas Barth
Am 2024-05-11 23:49, schrieb Vincent Lefevre: The value 6.31 does not even appear in the spamassassin source package. Sorry, the values are overwritten via the Amavis defaults. cat /etc/debian_version 10.13 egrep -nri "sa_tag_level_deflt|sa_kill_level_deflt" /etc /etc/amavis/conf.d/20-debian_d

Re: Score 0.001

2024-05-11 Thread Greg Troxel
Thomas Barth writes: > Am 2024-05-11 21:54, schrieb Bill Cole: >> I have no idea who the Debian "spam analysts" are but I am certain >> that they are not doing any sort of data-driven dynamic adjustments >> of scores based on a threshold of 6.3 nor are they (obviously) >> adjusting that threshold

Re: Score 0.001

2024-05-11 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2024-05-11 20:26:59 +0200, Thomas Barth wrote: > Am 2024-05-11 19:24, schrieb Loren Wilton: [...] > > > found in > > > > > > X-Spam-Status: No, score=5.908 tagged_above=2 required=6.31 > > > tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, > > > DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, DMARC_PAS

Re: Score 0.001

2024-05-11 Thread Thomas Barth
Am 2024-05-11 21:54, schrieb Bill Cole: I have no idea who the Debian "spam analysts" are but I am certain that they are not doing any sort of data-driven dynamic adjustments of scores based on a threshold of 6.3 nor are they (obviously) adjusting that threshold daily based on current scores.

Re: Score 0.001

2024-05-11 Thread Bill Cole
On 2024-05-11 at 14:26:59 UTC-0400 (Sat, 11 May 2024 20:26:59 +0200) Thomas Barth is rumored to have said: Hello Am 2024-05-11 19:24, schrieb Loren Wilton: Can I just take the names of the rules? e.g. at least two checks should fire: meta MULTIPLE_TESTS (( RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 + RAZOR2_CH

Re: Score 0.001

2024-05-11 Thread Thomas Barth
Hello Am 2024-05-11 19:24, schrieb Loren Wilton: Can I just take the names of the rules? e.g. at least two checks should fire: meta MULTIPLE_TESTS (( RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 + RAZOR2_CHECK + URIBL_ABUSE_SURBL) > 1) score MULTIPLE_TESTS 1 found in X-Spam-Status: No, score=5.908 tagged_above=

Re: Score 0.001

2024-05-11 Thread Loren Wilton
Can I just take the names of the rules? e.g. at least two checks should fire: meta MULTIPLE_TESTS (( RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 + RAZOR2_CHECK + URIBL_ABUSE_SURBL) > 1) score MULTIPLE_TESTS 1 found in X-Spam-Status: No, score=5.908 tagged_above=2 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VA

Re: Score 0.001

2024-05-11 Thread Thomas Barth
Hi guys, thank you all for your advice! Am 2024-05-10 22:39, schrieb Bowie Bailey: The rules with the low scores are not intended to contribute to the spam score for the email.  They only have a defined score at all because if the score is 0, SA will not run the rule. It works like this: Ru