Re: sa-scripts hard-code perl loc, and can end up referring to wrong libs or data

2020-10-25 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
I believe if you install a version of sa yourself from a tar, you will see they use a .raw file without the Perl hardcoded. It is then relaxed at install time. On Sun, Oct 25, 2020, 20:29 L A Walsh wrote: > Putting the questions/wants 1st, for those wanting the bottom line. > For backstory/why,

Re: sa-scripts hard-code perl loc, and can end up referring to wrong libs or data

2020-10-25 Thread L A Walsh
Putting the questions/wants 1st, for those wanting the bottom line. For backstory/why, see further on. 2 things: 1) Is it too much effort to only use the major/minor for sa-files? i.e. instead of numbering: "3.002000/ 3.004000/ 3.004004/" using "3.002/ 3.004/" ...? Where the patch leve

Re: curl, MIRRORED.BY, and paths.

2020-10-25 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
Here are my notes for disabling it if it helps. You might also be able to uninstall something like perl-local-lib too. DONE - #DISABLE Local::Lib to stop installations of perl modules from ONLY working for one user. We want them on the whole box unset PERL5LIB PERL_MB_OPT PERL_LOCAL_LIB_ROOT

Re: curl, MIRRORED.BY, and paths.

2020-10-25 Thread L A Walsh
On 2020/10/25 13:00, Bill Cole wrote: A common source of such problems is widespread adoption of the local::lib module which creates a per-user Perl library tree for each user of CPAN, even root. If that's not disabled, it can result in independent module trees with different versions of the sa

Re: curl get fails; MIRRORED.BY claimed empty. But neither is really true

2020-10-25 Thread Linda A. Walsh
On 2020/10/25 07:58, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: This sounds like a path issue and you have two versions of SA installed. Yeah, sorta. One perhaps from a package manager like yum or apt and another from cpan. Both by me, but I didn't know the "sa-" ignored where the

Re: curl get fails; MIRRORED.BY claimed empty. But neither is really true

2020-10-25 Thread Bill Cole
On 25 Oct 2020, at 12:06, RW wrote: On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 21:12:39 -0700 L A Walsh wrote: On 2020/10/18 09:22, L A Walsh wrote: On 2020/10/17 15:58, RW wrote: Probably a networking problem at the time sa-update ran. status: 1792 decodes to a curl error code of 7 "Failed to connect to host". I

https://metacpan.org/pod/IP::Country::DB_File

2020-10-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
is it possible to get ASN from this dbfile ? using it with country lookup, would be good to stop using dns services

Re: What can one do abut outlook.com?

2020-10-25 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Sun, 2020-10-25 at 12:08 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Martin Gregorie wrote: > > I use this to send a copy of all outbound mail to a local mailbox. > > Then periodically a cronjob scans and erases the mailbox content, > > adding the To: address(es) to a list of correspondents. IME this is > > safe

Re: Blocking by country/ASN/IP/domain

2020-10-25 Thread Peter Blair
At 25 October, 2020 Marc Roos wrote: > From: Marc Roos > To: mysqlstudent , users > > Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 18:57:27 +0100 > X-Spam-Status: No, score=-13.2 required=4.0 > tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, > RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS, > UR

RE: What can one do abut outlook.com?

2020-10-25 Thread Marc Roos
> make a reality check outside your small bubble! typical low iq response. I was already discussing the validity of these soccerplayer contracts before they had to change the system. > when you have millions of customers you can do whatever you want all day long and you are > simply not able

Re: What can one do abut outlook.com?

2020-10-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
Bob Proulx skrev den 2020-10-25 19:08: I also have a tool for weeding undesirables from the correspondent list because spamming addresses can creep onto the list, but its very infrequently needed. It is a clever idea! I might add something similar to my own setup. :-) amavisd have penpal,

Re: What can one do abut outlook.com?

2020-10-25 Thread Bob Proulx
Martin Gregorie wrote: > Its easy enough to create a list all desirable correspondents, at least > if your MTA has the equivalent of Postfix's 'always_bcc' directive. > > I use this to send a copy of all outbound mail to a local mailbox. Then > periodically a cronjob scans and erases the mailbox

Re: What can one do abut outlook.com?

2020-10-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
John Hardin skrev den 2020-10-25 01:46: On Sat, 24 Oct 2020, Benny Pedersen wrote: John skrev den 2020-10-24 21:30: A regular source of spam is outlook.com; is spamassassin say is not spam ? in that case: blacklist_from *@outlook.com ...and then whitelist specific desireable-corresponden

Re: What can one do abut outlook.com?

2020-10-25 Thread John Hardin
On Sun, 25 Oct 2020, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 24.10.20 22:19, Juerg Reimann wrote: This is what I did, it works a 100% :). outlook.com REJECT Too much spam from outlook.com, please use another email service. OTOH, outlook.com responds mail sent to abuse@ address, assuring you it h

RE: Blocking by country/ASN/IP/domain

2020-10-25 Thread Marc Roos
I have been looking into exactly the same, don't know how I am going to implement it still. What I know for now. This is how you can get info on a netblock owner. [@]$ dig +short -t txt 80.53.103.176.origin.asn.cymru.com '48031 | 176.103.48.0/20 | UA | ripencc | 2011-12-09' You can then eith

Blocking by country/ASN/IP/domain

2020-10-25 Thread Alex
Hi, I have a spamassassin-3.4.4 install with amavisd-2.12 and postfix on fedora32 and would like to be able to block email from an entire country on a per-user or per-domain basis. What is the best way to do this? I'm currently using the RelayCountry plugin and Amavis::Custom to add an X-Relay-Cou

RE: What can one do abut outlook.com?

2020-10-25 Thread Marc Roos
Are you guys working for Google or Amazon or so? Maybe I should give something simple analogy so you understand. If your neighbours washing machine breaks down, and causes you water damage. They have to pay for cleaning up de mess they created in your apartment. If the neighbour spills oil o

Re: What can one do abut outlook.com?

2020-10-25 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 25 October 2020 at 17:05:26, Marc Roos wrote: > Google, Amazon and Microsoft have billions of cash. It is indeed a > wonder how they are not spending it on outgoing mail detection. Why do they need to? Customers use their services anyway, and are either: a) spammers, in which case the

Re: What can one do abut outlook.com?

2020-10-25 Thread Alex Woick
If you block something, you have to ask yourself: How many innocent, unsuspecting legitimate senders Who cares, these "unsuspecting legitimate senders" should take their business somewhere else. This is extremist. You are confusing offenders with victims. Fight offenders, not victims. Every s

Re: curl get fails; MIRRORED.BY claimed empty. But neither is really true

2020-10-25 Thread RW
On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 21:12:39 -0700 L A Walsh wrote: > On 2020/10/18 09:22, L A Walsh wrote: > > On 2020/10/17 15:58, RW wrote: > > > >> Probably a networking problem at the time sa-update ran. > >> status: 1792 decodes to a curl error code of 7 "Failed to connect > >> to host". > >> I suspect

RE: What can one do abut outlook.com?

2020-10-25 Thread Marc Roos
> all huge mail providers with thousands/millions of customers, so there > is no wonder there is spam included. Google, Amazon and Microsoft have billions of cash. It is indeed a wonder how they are not spending it on outgoing mail detection. > mail services to a mono-culture of single huge

Re: What can one do abut outlook.com?

2020-10-25 Thread Alex Woick
A regular source of spam is outlook.com; or at least that is the domain that delivered the junk to my domain. Outlook.com is a legitimate email provider and not known for ignoring reports. If you block outlook.com, you have to block google.com for the same reason. And everything sent through ama

Re: curl get fails; MIRRORED.BY claimed empty. But neither is really true

2020-10-25 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
This sounds like a path issue and you have two versions of SA installed. One perhaps from a package manager like yum or apt and another from cpan. Your root installation likely has a different path, hence the discrepancy. And sa-update rights to /var/lib/spamassassdin by default so likely a non-pri

Re: What can one do abut outlook.com?

2020-10-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 24.10.20 22:19, Juerg Reimann wrote: This is what I did, it works a 100% :). outlook.com REJECT Too much spam from outlook.com, please use another email service. OTOH, outlook.com responds mail sent to abuse@ address, assuring you it has been dealt with, while gmail does not. of course,

Re: What can one do abut outlook.com?

2020-10-25 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Sat, 2020-10-24 at 16:46 -0700, John Hardin wrote: > ...and then whitelist specific desireable-correspondent outlook.com > addresses. > Its easy enough to create a list all desirable correspondents, at least if your MTA has the equivalent of Postfix's 'always_bcc' directive. I use this to se

Re: What can one do abut outlook.com?

2020-10-25 Thread John Capo
On Sat, October 24, 2020 16:33, Benny Pedersen wrote: > John skrev den 2020-10-24 21:30: > >> A regular source of spam is outlook.com; >> > > is spamassassin say is not spam ? > > in that case: > > blacklist_from *@outlook.com > > if it contains urls, is this urls unlisted ? > > i see low scooring