different results when using --debug

2014-12-02 Thread listsb-spamassassin
i was testing with a sample message, and noticed that when running manually with --debug, there seem to be numerous differences in the results, such as scores for the same tests differing, visual ordering of results differing [is this significant?], and bayes not being listed when using --debug.

Re: Argument "perl_version" isn't numeric

2014-12-02 Thread Noel Butler
On 03/12/2014 12:10, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: >> Likely in antique versions of debian and Redhat (which again will have >> bigger issues), there surely must come a time when the line is drawn and say >> - you're unsupported from this_date, give them plenty of notice, I think 12 >> months not

Re: Argument "perl_version" isn't numeric

2014-12-02 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 12/2/2014 5:50 PM, Noel Butler wrote: On 02/12/2014 23:10, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: 5.10 is only what, six years old? Surely anyone running anything older have far greater issues :) (says the guy running a few slackware 13.1 boxes with 5.10.1 hehe but theyll join the 14 series this Christ

spamassassin on fc20 improving accuracy

2014-12-02 Thread David Mehler
Hello, I've got a Postfix/Amavis/Spamassassin/Clamav setup running on an fc20 machine. It's all working except for the SA part, which is working that is it tags messages as spam or in my case not spam I see the headers. The problem is I'm using a completely virtual users setup user information co

Re: Honeypot email addresses

2014-12-02 Thread LuKreme
> On Dec 2, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 02.12.2014 um 19:22 schrieb Niamh Holding: >> Hello Reindl, >> >> Tuesday, December 2, 2014, 6:14:26 PM, you wrote: >> >> RH> no, i am saying nobody right in his mind is rejecting mails because >> RH> *one* RBL >> >> You do say the

Re: Honeypot email addresses

2014-12-02 Thread LuKreme
> On Dec 2, 2014, at 10:24 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > On 12/2/2014 6:19 AM, LuKreme wrote: >> On Dec 1, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>> This is assuming of course that your instantly blocking everything from a >>> sender that happens to email a honeypot. >> >> Right.

Re: Honeypot email addresses

2014-12-02 Thread Noel Butler
On 03/12/2014 09:18, Christian Grunfeld wrote: > ".if *anyone* sends *anything* to that address it is unsolicited mail - > spam, so that IP sender is blacklisted and placed in a DNSBL as well because > there is no possible legitimate reason to send to that address > > ït is not real

Re: Argument "perl_version" isn't numeric

2014-12-02 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 2 Dec 2014, jdow wrote: On 2014-12-02 12:15, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 12/2/2014 3:10 PM, jdow wrote: > On 2014-12-02 10:10, John Hardin wrote: > > On Tue, 2 Dec 2014, Burnie wrote: > > > > > On 12/02/2014 03:12 AM, John Hardin wrote: > > > > On Mon, 1 Dec 2014, Kevin A. McGrai

Re: Honeypot email addresses

2014-12-02 Thread Christian Grunfeld
".if *anyone* sends *anything* to that address it is unsolicited mail - spam, so that IP sender is blacklisted and placed in a DNSBL as well because there is no possible legitimate reason to send to that address ït is not really true. If a spammer sends to a list of addresses and among the

Re: Honeypot email addresses

2014-12-02 Thread Noel Butler
On 03/12/2014 03:07, Matthias Leisi wrote: > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:19 PM, LuKreme wrote: > >> On Dec 1, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>> This is assuming of course that your instantly blocking everything from a >>> sender that happens to email a honeypot. >> >> Right. Tha

Re: Argument "perl_version" isn't numeric

2014-12-02 Thread Noel Butler
On 03/12/2014 03:08, Benny Pedersen wrote: > Noel Butler skrev den 2014-12-02 05:38: > On 01/12/2014 22:27, Benny Pedersen wrote: Please turn of html never going to > happen this will be added so to my sieve autoreader, eg i can save reading your hints of my own problems again Benny you don

Re: Argument "perl_version" isn't numeric

2014-12-02 Thread Noel Butler
On 02/12/2014 23:10, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: >> 5.10 is only what, six years old? Surely anyone running anything older have >> far greater issues :) >> >> (says the guy running a few slackware 13.1 boxes with 5.10.1 hehe but theyll >> join the 14 series this Christmas when I can take them

Re: Argument "perl_version" isn't numeric

2014-12-02 Thread Bob Proulx
jdow wrote: > John Hardin wrote: > > Bob Proulx wrote: > > > I am hoping this won't make you gun-shy from continuing your fine > > > work on the project. Please don't let this minor bump in the road > > > discourage you from future work. That would be a tragedy for the > > > project and for the u

Re: Argument "perl_version" isn't numeric

2014-12-02 Thread Burnie
On 12/02/2014 09:10 PM, jdow wrote: Does this show the error? if can(Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf::perl_min_version_501) && version > 3.004001 && perl_version >= 5.018000 body INVALID_RE_SYNTAX_IN_PERL_BEFORE_5_18 /(?[ \p{Thai} & \p{Digit} ])/ endif It doesn't show the

Re: Argument "perl_version" isn't numeric

2014-12-02 Thread jdow
On 2014-12-02 12:15, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 12/2/2014 3:10 PM, jdow wrote: On 2014-12-02 10:10, John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2014, Burnie wrote: On 12/02/2014 03:12 AM, John Hardin wrote: On Mon, 1 Dec 2014, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > On 12/1/2014 8:03 PM, John Hardin wrote: > > F

Re: pdfinfo plugin

2014-12-02 Thread Axb
On 12/02/2014 07:02 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2014, Axb wrote: On 12/02/2014 11:58 AM, Stefan Jakobs wrote: Hello, I still use the pdfinfo plugin from Dallas Engelken (and it still hits on some messages). But does anyone know the status of the plugin? Is it maintained? I'm

Re: Argument "perl_version" isn't numeric

2014-12-02 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 12/2/2014 3:10 PM, jdow wrote: On 2014-12-02 10:10, John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2014, Burnie wrote: On 12/02/2014 03:12 AM, John Hardin wrote: On Mon, 1 Dec 2014, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > On 12/1/2014 8:03 PM, John Hardin wrote: > > For now, the only issue that has ever arisen in

RE: Argument "perl_version" isn't numeric

2014-12-02 Thread Kevin Miller
> -Original Message- > From: Niamh Holding [mailto:ni...@fullbore.co.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 7:27 AM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: Argument "perl_version" isn't numeric > > > Hello Noel, > > Tuesday, December 2, 2014, 4:57:08 AM, you wrote: > > NB> 5.

Re: Argument "perl_version" isn't numeric

2014-12-02 Thread jdow
On 2014-12-02 10:10, John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2014, Burnie wrote: On 12/02/2014 03:12 AM, John Hardin wrote: On Mon, 1 Dec 2014, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > On 12/1/2014 8:03 PM, John Hardin wrote: > > For now, the only issue that has ever arisen in years is the 501 > test so I

Re: Honeypot email addresses

2014-12-02 Thread Axb
On 12/02/2014 07:22 PM, Niamh Holding wrote: Hello Reindl, Tuesday, December 2, 2014, 6:14:26 PM, you wrote: RH> no, i am saying nobody right in his mind is rejecting mails because RH> *one* RBL You do say the sweetest things! Should I be offended given that we block at SMTP time if an IP ad

Re: Honeypot email addresses

2014-12-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.12.2014 um 19:22 schrieb Niamh Holding: Hello Reindl, Tuesday, December 2, 2014, 6:14:26 PM, you wrote: RH> no, i am saying nobody right in his mind is rejecting mails because RH> *one* RBL You do say the sweetest things! Should I be offended given that we block at SMTP time if an IP a

Re: Honeypot email addresses

2014-12-02 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Reindl, Tuesday, December 2, 2014, 6:14:26 PM, you wrote: RH> no, i am saying nobody right in his mind is rejecting mails because RH> *one* RBL You do say the sweetest things! Should I be offended given that we block at SMTP time if an IP address is listed in just one of a chosen select

Re: pdfinfo plugin

2014-12-02 Thread Axb
On 12/02/2014 07:02 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2014, Axb wrote: On 12/02/2014 11:58 AM, Stefan Jakobs wrote: Hello, I still use the pdfinfo plugin from Dallas Engelken (and it still hits on some messages). But does anyone know the status of the plugin? Is it maintained? I'm

Re: Honeypot email addresses

2014-12-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.12.2014 um 18:24 schrieb Ted Mittelstaedt: On 12/2/2014 6:19 AM, LuKreme wrote: On Dec 1, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: This is assuming of course that your instantly blocking everything from a sender that happens to email a honeypot. Right. That i the *point* of a honey

Re: Argument "perl_version" isn't numeric

2014-12-02 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 2 Dec 2014, Burnie wrote: On 12/02/2014 03:12 AM, John Hardin wrote: On Mon, 1 Dec 2014, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > On 12/1/2014 8:03 PM, John Hardin wrote: > > For now, the only issue that has ever arisen in years is the 501 > test so I would stick with just that for now. O

Re: pdfinfo plugin

2014-12-02 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 2 Dec 2014, Axb wrote: On 12/02/2014 11:58 AM, Stefan Jakobs wrote: Hello, I still use the pdfinfo plugin from Dallas Engelken (and it still hits on some messages). But does anyone know the status of the plugin? Is it maintained? I'm partially to blame this plugin exists - rule

Re: Honeypot email addresses

2014-12-02 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
On 12/2/2014 9:31 AM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 12/2/2014 12:24 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: On 12/2/2014 6:19 AM, LuKreme wrote: On Dec 1, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: This is assuming of course that your instantly blocking everything from a sender that happens to email a ho

Re: Honeypot email addresses

2014-12-02 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 12/2/2014 12:24 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: On 12/2/2014 6:19 AM, LuKreme wrote: On Dec 1, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: This is assuming of course that your instantly blocking everything from a sender that happens to email a honeypot. Right. That i the *point* of a honeypo

Re: Honeypot email addresses

2014-12-02 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
On 12/2/2014 6:19 AM, LuKreme wrote: On Dec 1, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: This is assuming of course that your instantly blocking everything from a sender that happens to email a honeypot. Right. That i the *point* of a honeypot. The only thing going to a honeypot is going

Re: Argument "perl_version" isn't numeric

2014-12-02 Thread Benny Pedersen
Noel Butler skrev den 2014-12-02 05:38: On 01/12/2014 22:27, Benny Pedersen wrote: Please turn of html never going to happen this will be added so to my sieve autoreader, eg i can save reading your hints of my own problems again

Re: Honeypot email addresses

2014-12-02 Thread Matthias Leisi
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:19 PM, LuKreme wrote: > On Dec 1, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > This is assuming of course that your instantly blocking everything from > a sender that happens to email a honeypot. > > Right. That i the *point* of a honeypot. The only thing going to a >

Re: Argument "perl_version" isn't numeric

2014-12-02 Thread Benny Pedersen
jdow skrev den 2014-12-01 23:56: I just added the following to my user-prefs file: if version > 3.004001 && perl_version >= 5.01 metaPDS_FROM_2_EMAILS __PDS_FROM_2_EMAILS && !__VIA_ML && !__VIA_RESIGNER endif No error here SL6.6, perl 5.10.1 and SA 3.3.1. good, but 3.4.2 do

Re: SA dns_server option

2014-12-02 Thread Benny Pedersen
Axb skrev den 2014-12-02 13:16: No matter how hard I look, I can't find a dns_server option in SA's conf oh are you living in belgium ? :) did you mean dns_available ?? next line after that is dns_server ( http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.4.x/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.txt ) or

Re: Argument "perl_version" isn't numeric

2014-12-02 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Noel, Tuesday, December 2, 2014, 4:57:08 AM, you wrote: NB> 5.10 is only what, six years old? Surely anyone running anything older have far greater issues CentOS 5.11 doesn't go EOL until 2017 and it has 5.8.8 -- Best regards, Niamhmailto:ni...@fullbore.co.

Re: SA dns_server option

2014-12-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.12.2014 um 15:20 schrieb Matteo Dessalvi: @Mark: thanks for the explanations about Amavis/SA. @Reindl: thanks, I am indeed using unbound as a DNS caching server. Interesting the option 'minimal-responses', I would check that it's damned useful, Google using it also on their public NS a

Re: SA dns_server option

2014-12-02 Thread Matteo Dessalvi
Hi. @Mark: thanks for the explanations about Amavis/SA. @Reindl: thanks, I am indeed using unbound as a DNS caching server. Interesting the option 'minimal-responses', I would check that. Regards, Matteo On 02.12.2014 14:16, Mark Martinec wrote: Matteo Dessalvi wrote: I have a short quest

Re: Honeypot email addresses

2014-12-02 Thread LuKreme
On Dec 1, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > This is assuming of course that your instantly blocking everything from a > sender that happens to email a honeypot. Right. That i the *point* of a honeypot. The only thing going to a honeypot is going to be a spammer. > Most honeypots are

Re: SA dns_server option

2014-12-02 Thread Mark Martinec
For example DKIM validation is done by amavisd calling Net::DNS directly A nitpick: Actually, amavisd is calling Mail::DKIM when DKIM validation is enabled, which in turn calls Net::DNS. The validation result is then passed to SpamAssassin's DKIM plugin, so that it doesn't need to do the valida

Re: SA dns_server option

2014-12-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.12.2014 um 14:16 schrieb Mark Martinec: Matteo Dessalvi wrote: I have a short question about the dns_server option of SA. Is this option used when SA is called from Amavis and there isn't any spamd process running? Yes it is. To be more clear: should I also be forced to add the IP add

Re: SA dns_server option

2014-12-02 Thread Mark Martinec
Matteo Dessalvi wrote: I have a short question about the dns_server option of SA. Is this option used when SA is called from Amavis and there isn't any spamd process running? Yes it is. To be more clear: should I also be forced to add the IP address of the caching DNS server to /etc/resolv.co

Re: Honeypot email addresses

2014-12-02 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 12/2/2014 12:28 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: For anyone else, this discussion about honeypots STARTED as a discussion on where to find good Bayes feeding sources. No, it started as a discussion about honeypots to help the SOUGHT 2.0 project which could use more volunteers, BTW! Regards, KA

Re: Argument "perl_version" isn't numeric

2014-12-02 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 12/1/2014 11:57 PM, Noel Butler wrote: On 02/12/2014 10:24, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 12/1/2014 6:06 PM, John Hardin wrote: It looks like as long as we support perl < 5.10.0 then the only clean solution is can(Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf::perl_min_version_501) With perl versions so low

Re: SA dns_server option

2014-12-02 Thread Matteo Dessalvi
Yes, I have read the docs but I was not sure if SA, when used through Amavis, would use such option. Nevermind, I pushed up the log verbosity of my DNS caching service and it looks like SA is using it. So, problem solved :-). Thanks. Best regards, Matteo On 02.12.2014 13:18, Axb wrote: doh..

Re: SA dns_server option

2014-12-02 Thread Axb
On 12/02/2014 01:16 PM, Axb wrote: On 12/02/2014 12:32 PM, Matteo Dessalvi wrote: Hi all. I have a short question about the dns_server option of SA. Is this option used when SA is called from Amavis and there isn't any spamd process running? To be more clear: should I also be forced to add the

Re: SA dns_server option

2014-12-02 Thread Axb
On 12/02/2014 12:32 PM, Matteo Dessalvi wrote: Hi all. I have a short question about the dns_server option of SA. Is this option used when SA is called from Amavis and there isn't any spamd process running? To be more clear: should I also be forced to add the IP address of the caching DNS serve

Re: Honeypot email addresses

2014-12-02 Thread Noel Butler
On 02/12/2014 15:28, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > On 12/1/2014 8:47 PM, Noel Butler wrote: > On 02/12/2014 09:07, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 01.12.2014 um 23:46 schrieb > Franck Martin: On Nov 26, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Reindl Harald > mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net>> wrote: Am 26.11.2014 > um 19:45 s

SA dns_server option

2014-12-02 Thread Matteo Dessalvi
Hi all. I have a short question about the dns_server option of SA. Is this option used when SA is called from Amavis and there isn't any spamd process running? To be more clear: should I also be forced to add the IP address of the caching DNS server to /etc/resolv.conf or the option would be suf

Re: pdfinfo plugin

2014-12-02 Thread Axb
On 12/02/2014 11:58 AM, Stefan Jakobs wrote: Hello, I still use the pdfinfo plugin from Dallas Engelken (and it still hits on some messages). But does anyone know the status of the plugin? Is it maintained? I'm partially to blame this plugin exists - rule support, etc. Does it make sense to

pdfinfo plugin

2014-12-02 Thread Stefan Jakobs
Hello, I still use the pdfinfo plugin from Dallas Engelken (and it still hits on some messages). But does anyone know the status of the plugin? Is it maintained? Does it make sense to use it with spamassassin 3.4.0 or is a similar functionality already included there? Best regards Stefan