Re: Forgetting mis-learned email

2013-07-29 Thread Amir 'CG' Caspi
On Mon, July 29, 2013 10:21 am, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: >> There were none for this email. > > Content-Type: text/plain > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Whoops. I missed those... I guess this could be why a 7-bit copy/paste wouldn't work, and using the mbox file directly is required. > Trie

Re: Getting AWL to unlearn (SA 3.4.0 2013/04/01)

2013-07-29 Thread Quanah Gibson-Mount
--On Monday, July 29, 2013 10:19 PM +0200 Benny Pedersen wrote: Quanah Gibson-Mount skrev den 2013-07-29 21:50: X-Spam-Status: No, score=9.734 tagged_above=-10 required=3 WHITELISTED No matter how much I feed these emails to SA for training as spam, the user its not whitelisted in sa, its a

Re: Getting AWL to unlearn (SA 3.4.0 2013/04/01)

2013-07-29 Thread RW
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:50:51 -0700 Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote: > Running SA 3.4.0 from April 1st, 2013. I'm seeing an issue where > obvious spam is reporting as whitelisted from SA for some users. We > do not have per-user whitelisting, so it seems AWL as for some > unknown and bizarre reason, de

Re: Getting AWL to unlearn (SA 3.4.0 2013/04/01)

2013-07-29 Thread Benny Pedersen
Quanah Gibson-Mount skrev den 2013-07-29 21:50: X-Spam-Status: No, score=9.734 tagged_above=-10 required=3 WHITELISTED No matter how much I feed these emails to SA for training as spam, the user its not whitelisted in sa, its amavisd dont blame sa for this :)

Re: Forgetting mis-learned email

2013-07-29 Thread RW
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:30:40 +0200 Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > On Mon, 2013-07-29 at 18:21 +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > > Tried --forget without the To header? > > Seeing that empty Subject header, instead of completely removing the > To header it might also be an empty header ("To: " wit

Getting AWL to unlearn (SA 3.4.0 2013/04/01)

2013-07-29 Thread Quanah Gibson-Mount
Running SA 3.4.0 from April 1st, 2013. I'm seeing an issue where obvious spam is reporting as whitelisted from SA for some users. We do not have per-user whitelisting, so it seems AWL as for some unknown and bizarre reason, decided to whitelist this spam. The *same* emails for me get marked as

Re: Forgetting mis-learned email

2013-07-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2013-07-29 at 19:08 +0200, Benny Pedersen wrote: > X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham > version=3.3.2 > > well here bayes score is lower then autolearnthreashhold so it learns > its self as ham forever tflags learn (the Bayesian rules) are ignor

Re: Forgetting mis-learned email

2013-07-29 Thread Benny Pedersen
Amir 'CG' Caspi skrev den 2013-07-29 18:06: I'm suspecting that it's the "undisclosed recipients" in the To: field that may be causing confusion with Bayes... I think the MUA inserted that, but not entirely positive. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham

Re: Forgetting mis-learned email

2013-07-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2013-07-29 at 18:21 +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > Tried --forget without the To header? Seeing that empty Subject header, instead of completely removing the To header it might also be an empty header ("To: " with a trailing space). Probably before or after the From header, or maybe b

Re: Forgetting mis-learned email

2013-07-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2013-07-29 at 10:06 -0600, Amir 'CG' Caspi wrote: > At 5:48 PM +0200 07/29/2013, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > > See the Content-Type and Content-Transfer-Encoding headers. > > There were none for this email. Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > The complete "raw s

Re: Forgetting mis-learned email

2013-07-29 Thread Amir 'CG' Caspi
At 5:48 PM +0200 07/29/2013, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: I strongly suggest to NEVER copy-n-paste like that, but to either run sa-learn on an entire mbox, or *save* a single mail to a file. Since For what it's worth, I also opened the mbox in a text editor and copied the actual raw message (as

Re: Forgetting mis-learned email

2013-07-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2013-07-29 at 09:31 -0600, Amir 'CG' Caspi wrote: > >SA always needs a full, raw message, including all headers, alternative > >parts, and attachments if any. And in particular regarding the sa-learn > >message ID, almost every bit counts. > > Yes, in this case the message was plain-text,

Re: Forgetting mis-learned email

2013-07-29 Thread Amir 'CG' Caspi
At 12:00 PM +0200 07/29/2013, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: You're best bet is to just train what you have as spam, to counter the Sure, I was planning to do that. The reason I wanted to --forget it was to make sure that I wasn't learning it twice (once as ham, once as spam). You do not hav

Re: Forgetting mis-learned email

2013-07-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2013-07-28 at 23:12 -0600, Amir 'CG' Caspi wrote: > So, some of my FNs get autolearned as ham, and because of the > way my mail queue is set up, I typically only see this once the mail > reaches my MUA and has already been deleted from the online inbox. I > have one particular mes

Re: Update Channel

2013-07-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2013-07-29 at 10:07 +0530, Blason rock wrote: > Then all my updates are failing especially to > rules.yerp.org.s3.amazonaws.com with error access denied. What is the error you get? Paste the output, we cannot help without you providing some actual data. sa-update -D output might me interes