Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 09:32 +0200, Robert Schetterer wrote: > > earthlink.net net is a spam source since years ( not one of the worst ) Indeed, they have been listed on no less than 27 times over my career here. AOL and twtelecom only got listed 17 times :-) in fact they now are relisted on on

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread Rob McEwen
On 10/14/2011 12:05 AM, Marc Perkel wrote: > OK - I didn't deliberately blacklist them. I found a bug in my yellow > listing code No system or person or group of people is perfect and we ALL make mistakes... even big mistakes from time to time... and even large and famous corporations make big mis

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread Marc Perkel
On 10/13/2011 2:33 PM, jdow wrote: On 2011/10/13 14:15, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: On 10/13, jdow wrote: 3.0 RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL RBL: Sender listed in HOSTKARMA-BLACK [207.69.195.183 listed in hostkarma.junkemailfilter.com] None of the blacklists, or software

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread Marc Perkel
On 10/13/2011 2:15 PM, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: On 10/13, jdow wrote: 3.0 RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL RBL: Sender listed in HOSTKARMA-BLACK [207.69.195.183 listed in hostkarma.junkemailfilter.com] None of the blacklists, or software involved, are maintained by perfect

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread Marc Perkel
On 10/13/2011 2:04 PM, jdow wrote: On 2011/10/13 07:26, Marc Perkel wrote: On 10/13/2011 1:16 AM, Tom Kinghorn wrote: On 13/10/2011 10:07, jdow wrote: On 2011/10/13 00:32, Robert Schetterer wrote: Am 12.10.2011 21:49, schrieb jdow: The idiots who run that one have put the Earthlink smtp s

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread Marc Perkel
On 10/13/2011 2:00 PM, jdow wrote: On 2011/10/13 07:21, Marc Perkel wrote: On 10/12/2011 12:49 PM, jdow wrote: The idiots who run that one have put the Earthlink smtp servers into their list. So I am opting out of it. I don't want ALL my received mail marked as spam. Damn fools. {+_+}

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 18:23 -0700, jdow wrote: > You mean like > ===8<--- > :0c: > $HOME/mail/rawmbox > ===8<--- {^_-} > I'm not really up to speed on procmail, but I guess so. > What that trick needs is a way to pull a log rotate sort of function on the > rawmbox. > I cheated there: rather than

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread jdow
On 2011/10/13 16:31, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 13:56 -0700, jdow wrote: On 2011/10/13 05:43, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 04:50 -0700, jdow wrote: Thank you, sir. I'll check [getmail] out. RPM Forge has a suitable package for SL6.1. Look at your distro's r

Re: New Bayes like paradigm

2011-10-13 Thread Adam Katz
> On 9/28/2011 8:02 AM, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: >> You definitely have a good point that it would only be necessary to >> track the combinations that actually show up in emails, however >> 1024 is only the possible combinations from one set of 10 rules. >> The number of combinations in the ac

Re: Results of eval and meta rules

2011-10-13 Thread Lawrence @ Rogers
On 13/10/2011 9:01 PM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 03:57 -0230, Lawrence @ Rogers wrote: On 13/10/2011 1:45 AM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: In a related note, as per the M::SA::Conf docs for meta rules -- "The value of a hit meta test is that of its arithmetic expression. Th

Results of eval and meta rules (was: Re: SA 3.3.1 bug or mistake in my custom rules?)

2011-10-13 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 03:57 -0230, Lawrence @ Rogers wrote: > On 13/10/2011 1:45 AM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > > In a related note, as per the M::SA::Conf docs for meta rules -- "The > > value of a hit meta test is that of its arithmetic expression. The value > > of a hit eval test is that retu

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 13:56 -0700, jdow wrote: > On 2011/10/13 05:43, Martin Gregorie wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 04:50 -0700, jdow wrote: > > > >> Thank you, sir. I'll check [getmail] out. RPM Forge has a suitable > >> package for SL6.1. > >> > > Look at your distro's repo first: its a Fedora

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread jdow
On 2011/10/13 14:15, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: On 10/13, jdow wrote: 3.0 RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL RBL: Sender listed in HOSTKARMA-BLACK [207.69.195.183 listed in hostkarma.junkemailfilter.com] None of the blacklists, or software involved, are maintained by perfect be

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread darxus
On 10/13, jdow wrote: > 3.0 RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL RBL: Sender listed in HOSTKARMA-BLACK > [207.69.195.183 listed in hostkarma.junkemailfilter.com] None of the blacklists, or software involved, are maintained by perfect beings. And you get it all for free. Mistakes happen,

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread jdow
On 2011/10/13 08:18, Marc Perkel wrote: On 10/12/2011 12:49 PM, jdow wrote: The idiots who run that one have put the Earthlink smtp servers into their list. So I am opting out of it. I don't want ALL my received mail marked as spam. Damn fools. {+_+} If by some mistake we actually did bla

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread jdow
On 2011/10/13 07:26, Marc Perkel wrote: On 10/13/2011 1:16 AM, Tom Kinghorn wrote: On 13/10/2011 10:07, jdow wrote: On 2011/10/13 00:32, Robert Schetterer wrote: Am 12.10.2011 21:49, schrieb jdow: The idiots who run that one have put the Earthlink smtp servers into their list. So I am optin

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread jdow
On 2011/10/13 07:24, Marc Perkel wrote: On 10/13/2011 12:32 AM, Robert Schetterer wrote: Am 12.10.2011 21:49, schrieb jdow: The idiots who run that one have put the Earthlink smtp servers into their list. So I am opting out of it. I don't want ALL my received mail marked as spam. Damn fools.

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread jdow
On 2011/10/13 07:21, Marc Perkel wrote: On 10/12/2011 12:49 PM, jdow wrote: The idiots who run that one have put the Earthlink smtp servers into their list. So I am opting out of it. I don't want ALL my received mail marked as spam. Damn fools. {+_+} Excuse me! Earthlink servers are NOT

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread jdow
On 2011/10/13 05:54, RW wrote: On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:45:18 -0700 jdow wrote: On 2011/10/12 16:53, Benny Pedersen wrote: On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 12:49:12 -0700, jdow wrote: The idiots who run that one have put the Earthlink smtp servers into their list. So I am opting out of it. I don't want ALL

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread jdow
On 2011/10/13 05:44, Benny Pedersen wrote: On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:45:18 -0700, jdow wrote: what are stopping you from add there ip to trusted_networks ? A bug I reported several years ago between fetchmail and SpamAssassin. hmp, spamassassin still can excempt whitelisted/blacklisted ips, if y

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread jdow
On 2011/10/13 05:43, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 04:50 -0700, jdow wrote: Thank you, sir. I'll check [getmail] out. RPM Forge has a suitable package for SL6.1. Look at your distro's repo first: its a Fedora supported package, so I'd expect other distros to include it too. I

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread Marc Perkel
On 10/12/2011 12:49 PM, jdow wrote: The idiots who run that one have put the Earthlink smtp servers into their list. So I am opting out of it. I don't want ALL my received mail marked as spam. Damn fools. {+_+} If by some mistake we actually did blacklist an earthlink.net server then I

Re: Blacklisting based on SPF

2011-10-13 Thread Marc Perkel
On 10/11/2011 6:49 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 7 Oct 2011 00:28:49 -, John Levine wrote: Nobody with any interest in delivering the mail that their users want. The error rate is much, much too high. On 10/7/2011 12:50 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote: how ? On 10.10.11 07:00, Marc P

Re: New Bayes like paradigm

2011-10-13 Thread Marc Perkel
On 10/10/2011 9:16 AM, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: On 10/10, Marc Perkel wrote: On 9/28/2011 8:02 AM, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: On 09/28, Marc Perkel wrote: You would only have to test the rule combinations that the message actually triggered. So if it hit 10 rules then it would be 102

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread Marc Perkel
On 10/13/2011 1:16 AM, Tom Kinghorn wrote: On 13/10/2011 10:07, jdow wrote: On 2011/10/13 00:32, Robert Schetterer wrote: Am 12.10.2011 21:49, schrieb jdow: The idiots who run that one have put the Earthlink smtp servers into their list. So I am opting out of it. I don't want ALL my received

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread Marc Perkel
On 10/13/2011 12:32 AM, Robert Schetterer wrote: Am 12.10.2011 21:49, schrieb jdow: The idiots who run that one have put the Earthlink smtp servers into their list. So I am opting out of it. I don't want ALL my received mail marked as spam. Damn fools. {+_+} earthlink.net net is a spam sourc

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread Marc Perkel
On 10/12/2011 12:49 PM, jdow wrote: The idiots who run that one have put the Earthlink smtp servers into their list. So I am opting out of it. I don't want ALL my received mail marked as spam. Damn fools. {+_+} Excuse me! Earthlink servers are NOT blacklisted. -- Marc Perkel - Sales/Su

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread RW
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:45:18 -0700 jdow wrote: > On 2011/10/12 16:53, Benny Pedersen wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 12:49:12 -0700, jdow wrote: > >> The idiots who run that one have put the Earthlink smtp servers > >> into their list. So I am opting out of it. I don't want ALL my > >> received mai

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:45:18 -0700, jdow wrote: what are stopping you from add there ip to trusted_networks ? A bug I reported several years ago between fetchmail and SpamAssassin. hmp, spamassassin still can excempt whitelisted/blacklisted ips, if you want it to, it does not count how you fe

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 04:50 -0700, jdow wrote: > Thank you, sir. I'll check [getmail] out. RPM Forge has a suitable > package for SL6.1. > Look at your distro's repo first: its a Fedora supported package, so I'd expect other distros to include it too. The following is not to tell you what you al

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread jdow
On 2011/10/13 03:44, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 21:45 -0700, jdow wrote: A bug I reported several years ago between fetchmail and SpamAssassin. Minor point: fetchmail is known to be buggy, amongst which is a bad habit of leaving previously read mail in the source mailbox, whe

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread jdow
On 2011/10/13 01:17, Robert Schetterer wrote: Am 13.10.2011 10:07, schrieb jdow: On 2011/10/13 00:32, Robert Schetterer wrote: Am 12.10.2011 21:49, schrieb jdow: The idiots who run that one have put the Earthlink smtp servers into their list. So I am opting out of it. I don't want ALL my recei

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 21:45 -0700, jdow wrote: > A bug I reported several years ago between fetchmail and SpamAssassin. > Minor point: fetchmail is known to be buggy, amongst which is a bad habit of leaving previously read mail in the source mailbox, where it remains forever or until you take spec

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 13.10.2011 10:07, schrieb jdow: > On 2011/10/13 00:32, Robert Schetterer wrote: >> Am 12.10.2011 21:49, schrieb jdow: >>> The idiots who run that one have put the Earthlink smtp servers into >>> their >>> list. So I am opting out of it. I don't want ALL my received mail >>> marked as >>> spam. >

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread Tom Kinghorn
On 13/10/2011 10:07, jdow wrote: On 2011/10/13 00:32, Robert Schetterer wrote: Am 12.10.2011 21:49, schrieb jdow: The idiots who run that one have put the Earthlink smtp servers into their list. So I am opting out of it. I don't want ALL my received mail marked as spam. Damn fools. {+_+} It

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread jdow
On 2011/10/13 00:32, Robert Schetterer wrote: Am 12.10.2011 21:49, schrieb jdow: The idiots who run that one have put the Earthlink smtp servers into their list. So I am opting out of it. I don't want ALL my received mail marked as spam. Damn fools. {+_+} earthlink.net net is a spam source si

Re: Good bye RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL

2011-10-13 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 12.10.2011 21:49, schrieb jdow: > The idiots who run that one have put the Earthlink smtp servers into their > list. So I am opting out of it. I don't want ALL my received mail marked as > spam. > > Damn fools. > {+_+} earthlink.net net is a spam source since years ( not one of the worst ) the