Re: [OT] Problem with mailserver and rejects

2011-03-07 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, [UTF-8] Marcin Miros�^Baw wrote: > W dniu 07.03.2011 13:40, Michelle Konzack pisze: > > Hello, > > > > since 2011-01-19 I have a problem because my FTTH was accidently cuted > > and now no one want ot be responsable including my ISP. > > > > OK, <88.168.69.36> had an rDNS to

Re: Describing "AWL"

2011-03-07 Thread Benny Pedersen
> I also have some thoughts about discarding "hammers" at the end of that > document. if awl had unixtime stamp for last change time, one could add time test for at least x days where its was score aveageing, but if less then x days dont give negative for ham that would hardened it more to be

Re: Describing "AWL"

2011-03-07 Thread Dennis German
On 3/7/11 4:13 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Adam Katz wrote: On 03/06/2011 11:33 AM, Karsten Br�ckelmann wrote: On Sun, 2011-03-06 at 10:51 -0800, JP Kelly wrote: I just found an incoming message which is ham but marked as spam. It received a score of 14 because it is in th

Re: Open letter to Yahoo and Hotmail concerning junkmail

2011-03-07 Thread Warren Togami Jr.
On 3/7/2011 2:10 AM, Mynabbler wrote: Warren Togami Jr. wrote: I'd agree, but users wont rebel against Yahoo unless they begin to see actual bounces to their sent mail. I don't know about your end users, but ours typically get flummoxed if mail from this "well known and trusted" free mail p

Re: Describing "AWL"

2011-03-07 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Adam Katz wrote: On 03/06/2011 11:33 AM, Karsten Br?ckelmann wrote: On Sun, 2011-03-06 at 10:51 -0800, JP Kelly wrote: I just found an incoming message which is ham but marked as spam. It received a score of 14 because it is in the auto white-list. Shouldn't it receive a ne

Re: Open letter to Yahoo and Hotmail concerning junkmail

2011-03-07 Thread David F. Skoll
On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 19:51:47 + Ned Slider wrote: > Like you, I've yet to find a reliable set of meta rules to > effectively deal with this junk and invariably it turns into a game > of chasing one's tail. We use an in-house DNSBL based on our reputation-reporting code (http://www.mimedefang.

Re: Open letter to Yahoo and Hotmail concerning junkmail

2011-03-07 Thread Ned Slider
On 07/03/11 12:10, Mynabbler wrote: Warren Togami Jr. wrote: I'd agree, but users wont rebel against Yahoo unless they begin to see actual bounces to their sent mail. I don't know about your end users, but ours typically get flummoxed if mail from this "well known and trusted" free mail pro

Describing "AWL"

2011-03-07 Thread Adam Katz
On 03/06/2011 11:33 AM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > On Sun, 2011-03-06 at 10:51 -0800, JP Kelly wrote: >> I just found an incoming message which is ham but marked as spam. >> It received a score of 14 because it is in the auto white-list. >> Shouldn't it receive a negative score? > > http://wiki.

Re: Open letter to Yahoo and Hotmail concerning junkmail

2011-03-07 Thread J.D. Falk
On Mar 6, 2011, at 3:37 AM, Mynabbler wrote: > The amount of junkmail coming from your systems is unbelievable. How hard is > it to implement a cap on the amount of messages people can send out daily > with your systems. They do that. > And that includes the number of Cc's and Bcc's one > messag

Re: [OT] Problem with mailserver and rejects

2011-03-07 Thread Marcin Mirosław
W dniu 07.03.2011 13:40, Michelle Konzack pisze: > Hello, > > since 2011-01-19 I have a problem because my FTTH was accidently cuted > and now no one want ot be responsable including my ISP. > > OK, <88.168.69.36> had an rDNS to and was working > perfectly and gotten never rejects except from

[OT] Problem with mailserver and rejects

2011-03-07 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello, since 2011-01-19 I have a problem because my FTTH was accidently cuted and now no one want ot be responsable including my ISP. OK, <88.168.69.36> had an rDNS to and was working perfectly and gotten never rejects except from Hotmail which use a realy weird ANTI-SPAM service/policy Now I

Re: Open letter to Yahoo and Hotmail concerning junkmail

2011-03-07 Thread Mynabbler
Warren Togami Jr. wrote: > > I'd agree, but users wont rebel against Yahoo unless they begin to see > actual bounces to their sent mail. > I don't know about your end users, but ours typically get flummoxed if mail from this "well known and trusted" free mail providers would not arrive to them

Re: Automatically extracted SpamAssassin FAQs

2011-03-07 Thread Stefan Henß
Hi Alex, thanks for those two important points. Each question and answer is now attributed with the author, a link to the original post (apache's mailing list archives) and the date it was contributed. Regards, Stefan Am 23.02.2011 14:54, schrieb Alex: Hi, I'm currently doing research fo

Re: Open letter to Yahoo and Hotmail concerning junkmail

2011-03-07 Thread Warren Togami Jr.
On 3/6/2011 3:15 AM, Ned Slider wrote: On 06/03/11 11:46, Warren Togami Jr. wrote: I have no comment on your proposed solution. I can however point out the statistics that I see on my own spam traps. It seems that 90%+ of the spam coming from DNSWL listed hosts is Yahoo and Hotmail which are li