Re: Is this message a bug or feature?

2010-02-17 Thread Robert Nicholson
From this http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/spamassassin/commits/148538 it looks like it was a bug how can I configure dccifd is not available instead of SA trying to figure it out the long way? On Feb 17, 2010, at 11:06 PM, Robert Nicholson wrote: > Use of uninitialized value in sprintf

Is this message a bug or feature?

2010-02-17 Thread Robert Nicholson
Use of uninitialized value in sprintf at /home/elastica/SALOCAL-3.3.0/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/Logger.pm line 241. at /home/elastica/SALOCAL-3.3.0/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/Logger.pm line 241 Mail::SpamAssassin::Logger::_log(3, 'dcc: dccifd is not a

Re: Most hilarious spam ever

2010-02-17 Thread RW
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 12:31:34 -0600 Igor Chudov wrote: > This is a very funny spam, takes the title of "dumbest spam of Feb > 2010". > > http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/spam010.txt > > The person who sent it, probably thinks that he is the best phister in > the world. It seems to be a spammer'

Re: Most hilarious spam ever

2010-02-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 17 February 2010, Igor Chudov wrote: >This is a very funny spam, takes the title of "dumbest spam of Feb 2010". > > http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/spam010.txt > >The person who sent it, probably thinks that he is the best phister in >the world. > >i > Yeah I got one of those last week,

Re: Most hilarious spam ever

2010-02-17 Thread Bowie Bailey
Igor Chudov wrote: > This is a very funny spam, takes the title of "dumbest spam of Feb 2010". > > http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/spam010.txt > > The person who sent it, probably thinks that he is the best phister in > the world. > > i > The sad thing is that some people are going to fall for

Most hilarious spam ever

2010-02-17 Thread Igor Chudov
This is a very funny spam, takes the title of "dumbest spam of Feb 2010". http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/spam010.txt The person who sent it, probably thinks that he is the best phister in the world. i

Re: SA on outgoing SMTP

2010-02-17 Thread Charles Gregory
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010, Kris Deugau wrote: My experience has been that Outlook in particular (not Outlook Express or its descendant Windows (Live) Mail) does NOT in fact display SMTP error messages exactly as the server spits them out. :( Sorry. You've heard that old phrase "goes without saying"

Re: SA on outgoing SMTP

2010-02-17 Thread Frank Heydlauf
Hi Alexandre, On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:44:35AM -1000, Alexandre Chapellon wrote: > I am an ISP with over 5 users (wich is not that big for an isp) > permannently connected. FYI: similar scale here. > I can hardly imagine to manage the poilicies of all my customer, and I know > they would

Re: SA on outgoing SMTP

2010-02-17 Thread Kris Deugau
Charles Gregory wrote: ... but any legitimate mail that is blocked will result in their MUA (Outlook) displaying an error message. This is GOOD. :) My experience has been that Outlook in particular (not Outlook Express or its descendant Windows (Live) Mail) does NOT in fact display SMTP erro

Re: SA on outgoing SMTP

2010-02-17 Thread Kris Deugau
Mark Martinec wrote: SA already has some awareness of mail flow direction (inbound vs. outbound) through its trusted_networks/internal_networks/msa_networks settings, and recognizes authentication signs in Received header fields, as well as its whitelist_bounce_relays awareness, so it should be a

Re: SA on outgoing SMTP

2010-02-17 Thread Charles Gregory
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010, Alexandre Chapellon wrote: I'd like to re-focused to my initial questions: "does SA on outgoing smtp needs specific tweaks? Is it a good idea and does any body already set it up?" In answer to 'is it a good idea', please insure that whatever mechanism you put in place oper

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-17 Thread tonjg
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > you may have autolearn plugin not active. What does X-Spam-Status header > in your mail say? it says: X-Spam-Score: 4.463 () BAYES_60,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG,MIME_HTML_ONLY X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 172.16.1.36 I don't know

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-17 Thread tonjg
Arthur Dent-6 wrote: > > Try # date -d @1266390928 ah yes thanks Arthur that worked: [r...@home admin]# date -d @1266390928 Wed Feb 17 07:15:28 GMT 2010 [r...@home admin]# -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/is-bayes-learning--tp27616380p27623785.html Sent from the SpamAs

Re: SA on outgoing SMTP

2010-02-17 Thread DAve
Alexandre, To answer your first question, yes we filter outbound mail. We were once in the same position as you are now and corrected the problem successfully. All the advice given is good and I can attest that it will work. We first created a separate outbound service with authenticated smtps ad

Re: getting different SA scores depending on which outgoing smtp is used, though same sender IP and SA

2010-02-17 Thread RW
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 01:19:03 + Tom wrote: > On 17/02/10 00:35, RW wrote: > > > > It doesn't know it's internal because you haven't set your > > > internal network to include your > > > own IP address. Generally local mail shouldn't go through SA so > > > that's not an issue. > > > > >

Re: Increase spamassassin -r verbosity?

2010-02-17 Thread Kārlis Repsons
On Wednesday 17 February 2010 12:09:50 Frank Heydlauf wrote: > Hi K??rlis, > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 08:50:24AM +, K??rlis Repsons wrote: > > On Tuesday 16 February 2010 18:18:01 Mark Martinec wrote: > > ... > > > > spamassassin --debug info -r > ... > > > Does the thing, but with one

AW: [SpamAssassin] Re: spamd: Can't locate object method "check_for_rdns_helo_mismatch"

2010-02-17 Thread Daniel Lemke
Thank you, that solved it. I downloaded the rules tarball and now it's working fine. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Karsten Bräckelmann [mailto:guent...@rudersport.de] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Februar 2010 11:55 An: users@spamassassin.apache.org Betreff: [SpamAssassin] Re: spamd: Can't loc

Re: SA on outgoing SMTP

2010-02-17 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 17:11 -1000, Alexandre Chapellon wrote: > Yes but most of the time (here) undeliverable mails are undeliverable > because of recipient over quota, wrong mx records on dst domain or > things like this... I can explain this to my customer. By cons I > cannot tell him we silently

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-17 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> RW-15 wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 00:29:38 +0100 > > Mikael Syska wrote: > > Watching nham, nspam counts is more meaningful. On 17.02.10 04:18, tonjg wrote: > my nspam and nham counts look the same as they were two weeks ago without > change, which makes me think that bayes isn't learning...

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-17 Thread Arthur Dent
On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 04:16 -0800, tonjg wrote: > > Mikael Syska wrote: > > > > [r...@freebsd /]# date -r 1266318121 > > Tue Feb 16 12:02:01 CET 2010 > > > > newsest atime should tell you when it last learned from a message. > > thanks for your response, I ran sa-learn --dump magic: > 0.000

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-17 Thread tonjg
RW-15 wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 00:29:38 +0100 > Mikael Syska wrote: > Watching nham, nspam counts is more meaningful. my nspam and nham counts look the same as they were two weeks ago without change, which makes me think that bayes isn't learning... -- View this message in context: htt

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-17 Thread tonjg
Mikael Syska wrote: > > [r...@freebsd /]# date -r 1266318121 > Tue Feb 16 12:02:01 CET 2010 > > newsest atime should tell you when it last learned from a message. thanks for your response, I ran sa-learn --dump magic: 0.000 0 3 0 non-token data: bayes db version 0.0

Re: Increase spamassassin -r verbosity?

2010-02-17 Thread Frank Heydlauf
Hi K??rlis, On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 08:50:24AM +, K??rlis Repsons wrote: > On Tuesday 16 February 2010 18:18:01 Mark Martinec wrote: ... > > spamassassin --debug info -r Does the thing, but with one trouble: those info-level messages appear to be > directed through stderr! Can they be dire

Re: SA on outgoing SMTP

2010-02-17 Thread Mark Martinec
Alexandre Chapellon wrote: > Not public blacklists but for example Yahoo!'s servers spends most of > its days replying "defered temporarily due user complaints' o our > relays. Start building a good reputation at Yahoo for your clean outgoing mail: - allocate a new IP address for your new 'clean'

Re: spamd: Can't locate object method "check_for_rdns_helo_mismatch"

2010-02-17 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 11:24 +0100, Daniel Lemke wrote: > I’ve got several warnings during execution of spamd on win32. For > every incoming mail the same warning pops up, saying: > Wed Feb 17 10:42:46 2010 [4988] warn: rules: failed to run > FAKE_HELO_EXCITE test, skipping: > Wed Feb 17 10:42:46

Re: SA on outgoing SMTP

2010-02-17 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> Alexandre Chapellon wrote: >> I am an ISP with over 5 users (wich is not that big for an isp) >> permannently connected. >> I can hardly imagine to manage the poilicies of all my customer, and I >> know they would really don't like it. >> What if your ISP told you what you got to do, where to

Re: Increase spamassassin -r verbosity?

2010-02-17 Thread Mark Martinec
On Wednesday February 17 2010 09:50:24 Kārlis Repsons wrote: > > spamassassin --debug info -r Does the thing, but with one trouble: those info-level messages appear to > be directed through stderr! Can they be directed through stdout, while > warning messages through stderr? That's the best we c

Re: MTX - How does it stop spam?

2010-02-17 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> On 02/16, Marc Perkel wrote: > > I'm still waiting for RDNS to be widely adopted enough to penalize for > > that. There is a lot of good email that comes from misconfigured > > servers. If we can't get the world to do good RDNS I don't think we can > > get the world to do some other more co

spamd: Can't locate object method "check_for_rdns_helo_mismatch"

2010-02-17 Thread Daniel Lemke
I've got several warnings during execution of spamd on win32. For every incoming mail the same warning pops up, saying: Wed Feb 17 10:42:46 2010 [4988] warn: rules: failed to run FAKE_HELO_EXCITE test, skipping: Wed Feb 17 10:42:46 2010 [4988] warn: (Can't locate object method "check_for_rdns_

Re: Increase spamassassin -r verbosity?

2010-02-17 Thread Kārlis Repsons
On Tuesday 16 February 2010 18:18:01 Mark Martinec wrote: > > > I'd appreciate a pointer how should spamassassin -r be made more > > > verbose, so that it'd report also messages with priority "info", but > > > not "dbg"... > > > > spamassassin --debug area=noall -r > Sorry, wrong syntax, should b

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-17 Thread Arthur Dent
On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 15:22 -0800, tonjg wrote: > I've got a feeling that the spamassassin on my machine is improving in the > way it recognises spam but I'd like to be sure it's not just my imagination. > I did my first manual bayes learn about 2 weeks ago using 200 spams and 200 > hams, the proce