Re: Interesting email...

2009-05-17 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Mon, May 18, 2009 01:54, Kurt Buff wrote: > Don't know why clamav didn't catch it - I know you're running that... tests=[AV:Sanesecurity.Phishing.Pay.5872.UNOFFICIAL=0, AV_SS=7.5, it also did :) so some have had it before bill -- http://localhost/ 100% uptime and 100% mirrored :)

Re: [spamassassin-users] shortcircuit

2009-05-17 Thread Matt Kettler
b-sub-...@rope.net wrote: > I am implementing a new SA installation. It looks like the shortcircuit > feature would be very useful, in my case. However, in searching the wiki, > google, etc., etc., I have not been able to find a *simple* explicit > example for my use. > > As I understand it, I shou

Re: Some strange results between spamd and spamc

2009-05-17 Thread Matt Kettler
Pieter De Wit wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I am pretty sure I covered this well, but I saw some strange happenings > over the last couple of days. I don't have access to the box to copy and > paste the results so this goes from memory (thought I would get the ball > rolling) > > I am writing my own custom

[spamassassin-users] shortcircuit

2009-05-17 Thread b-sub-sal
I am implementing a new SA installation. It looks like the shortcircuit feature would be very useful, in my case. However, in searching the wiki, google, etc., etc., I have not been able to find a *simple* explicit example for my use. As I understand it, I should be able to define a rule, and if i

Re: SA: what do SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF_NEUTRAL mean

2009-05-17 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Sun, 17 May 2009, Dennis German wrote: > Could someone discuss or add a wiki page about? > > SPF_SOFTFAIL http://www.openspf.org/RFC_4408#op-result-softfail > SPF_NEUTRAL http://www.openspf.org/RFC_4408#op-result-neutral -- Sahil Tandon

SA: what do SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF_NEUTRAL mean

2009-05-17 Thread Dennis German
Could someone discuss or add a wiki page about? SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF_NEUTRAL

Re: [spamassassin-users] shortcircuit

2009-05-17 Thread b-sub-sal
On Sun, 17 May 2009, Matt Kettler wrote: > > Could someone please show me how I could alter this frivilous rule to use > > shortcircuit: > > > > body SA1/dear friend/i > > describe SA1SA - dear friend > > score SA1 13 > > # Score of 12 is enough to classif

Re: [spamassassin-users] shortcircuit

2009-05-17 Thread Matt Kettler
b-sub-...@rope.net wrote: > On Sun, 17 May 2009, Matt Kettler wrote: > > >>> Could someone please show me how I could alter this frivilous rule to use >>> shortcircuit: >>> >>> body SA1/dear friend/i >>> describe SA1SA - dear friend >>> score SA1 13 >>>

Re: Interesting email...

2009-05-17 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Mon, May 18, 2009 01:23, Bill Landry wrote: > Is it simply a poorly written piece of vbscript that could be dangerous > if done right? paypal.conSOLE sender have a nice day trying also From: is diff then envelope sender so why is paypal.com in body, and https but not all url is https, silly s

Re: EmailBL hit count

2009-05-17 Thread Bill Landry
LuKreme wrote: > On 17-May-2009, at 06:32, Yet Another Ninja wrote: >> On 5/17/2009 2:09 PM, LuKreme wrote: >>> On 16-May-2009, at 21:25, Bill Landry wrote: LuKreme wrote: > grep EMAILBL /var/log/maillog.1 | grep -v "is spam" | wc -l > > ?? How is that going to work if yo

Re: learning from IMAP spam collection

2009-05-17 Thread LuKreme
On 17-May-2009, at 01:42, Michael Monnerie wrote: fetchmail -asnp IMAP --folder autolearn --user $username -m "formail -s |spamassassin -d >>/tmp/x" $mailserver Fethmail first so you an get ALL the messages at once. THEN run Spamassassin. This will be a lot shorter I'll be than what you a

Re: Interesting email...

2009-05-17 Thread Kurt Buff
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 17:28, Bill Landry wrote: > Kurt Buff wrote: >> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 16:23, Bill Landry wrote: >>> I'm not sure the purpose is of this kind of email, as the links are not >>> clickable, even though they appear to be.  The message scored high, but >>> wondering what othe

Re: EmailBL hit count

2009-05-17 Thread LuKreme
On 17-May-2009, at 06:32, Yet Another Ninja wrote: On 5/17/2009 2:09 PM, LuKreme wrote: On 16-May-2009, at 21:25, Bill Landry wrote: LuKreme wrote: grep EMAILBL /var/log/maillog.1 | grep -v "is spam" | wc -l ?? How is that going to work if you are telling grep to output everything that d

Some strange results between spamd and spamc

2009-05-17 Thread Pieter De Wit
Hi Guys, I am pretty sure I covered this well, but I saw some strange happenings over the last couple of days. I don't have access to the box to copy and paste the results so this goes from memory (thought I would get the ball rolling) I am writing my own custom milter for sendmail. I use the fo

Re: Interesting email...

2009-05-17 Thread Bill Landry
Kurt Buff wrote: > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 16:23, Bill Landry wrote: >> I'm not sure the purpose is of this kind of email, as the links are not >> clickable, even though they appear to be. The message scored high, but >> wondering what others think about this one: >> >> http://pastebin.com/m74d

Re: Interesting email...

2009-05-17 Thread Simon Wilson
Quoting Evan Platt : At 04:36 PM 5/17/2009, you wrote: Not sure as to the purpose - the VBscript certainly looks suspect, but I'm no expert there. But damn you'd think they'd at least run a spell-check LOL. I'm sure they'd get at least twice the number of dumb-asses responding if their emails

Re: Interesting email...

2009-05-17 Thread Evan Platt
At 04:36 PM 5/17/2009, you wrote: Not sure as to the purpose - the VBscript certainly looks suspect, but I'm no expert there. But damn you'd think they'd at least run a spell-check LOL. I'm sure they'd get at least twice the number of dumb-asses responding if their emails weren't full of stupid

Re: Interesting email...

2009-05-17 Thread Kurt Buff
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 16:23, Bill Landry wrote: > I'm not sure the purpose is of this kind of email, as the links are not > clickable, even though they appear to be.  The message scored high, but > wondering what others think about this one: > >   http://pastebin.com/m74dd8503 > > Is it simply a

Re: Interesting email...

2009-05-17 Thread Simon Wilson
Quoting Bill Landry : I'm not sure the purpose is of this kind of email, as the links are not clickable, even though they appear to be. The message scored high, but wondering what others think about this one: http://pastebin.com/m74dd8503 Is it simply a poorly written piece of vbscript

Interesting email...

2009-05-17 Thread Bill Landry
I'm not sure the purpose is of this kind of email, as the links are not clickable, even though they appear to be. The message scored high, but wondering what others think about this one: http://pastebin.com/m74dd8503 Is it simply a poorly written piece of vbscript that could be dangerous if d

Re: learning from IMAP spam collection

2009-05-17 Thread Andrzej Adam Filip
Michael Monnerie wrote: > Dear experts, > > I have a question regarding spam/ham learning, regarding performance. I > store spam in a mail folder accessible via IMAP. Then I want to feed > this into bayes. > [...] Could you answer a few extra question needed to recommend alternatives? Do you

Re: learning from IMAP spam collection

2009-05-17 Thread Chris
On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 09:42 +0200, Michael Monnerie wrote: > Dear experts, > > I have a question regarding spam/ham learning, regarding performance. I > store spam in a mail folder accessible via IMAP. Then I want to feed > this into bayes. For this, I do: > > fetchmail -asnp IMAP --folder auto

Re: learning from IMAP spam collection

2009-05-17 Thread John Hardin
On Sun, 17 May 2009, Michael Monnerie wrote: Finally measured again, it takes 1h7m to fetch from imap plus remove all markups: I think the largest part of your problem is the "fetch" part. The way this is usually set up is the training mailbox files reside on the same server that is doing th

Re: EmailBL hit count

2009-05-17 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 5/17/2009 3:41 PM, Steve Freegard wrote: Who cares if they have strict blocks on stuff coming in to their network - an EMAILBL listing is all about whether or not spammers/scammers use their service for drop-boxes, spew mail out from their service or use their domain name. Whereas URIBLs are

Re: EmailBL hit count

2009-05-17 Thread Steve Freegard
Michael Monnerie wrote: > I generally like the idea. But this project is in the beginners phase, > and a whole lot of people will want to wait until others report it's > benefits. After all, who wishes to put it in production and then maybe > it causes a lot of FPs? Duh: score EMAILBL 0.001 *

Re: EmailBL hit count

2009-05-17 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 5/17/2009 3:22 PM, Michael Monnerie wrote: On Sonntag 17 Mai 2009 Yet Another Ninja wrote: The future of this project depends if the concept is of any use. The lack of feedback, any kind, must mean its of little value so it might as well be drowned at birth. I generally like the idea. But t

Re: learning from IMAP spam collection

2009-05-17 Thread Jari Fredriksson
- Original Message - From: "Michael Monnerie" To: Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 1:15 PM Subject: Re: learning from IMAP spam collection >Why is there no mode -L spam -C report to spamc? Could do both at once. I think -C report does a) remove markup b) sent reports to ALL c) learn as s

Re: EmailBL hit count

2009-05-17 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Sonntag 17 Mai 2009 Yet Another Ninja wrote: > The future of this project depends if the concept is of any use. The > lack of feedback, any kind, must mean its of little value so it might > as well be drowned at birth. I generally like the idea. But this project is in the beginners phase, and

Re: learning from IMAP spam collection

2009-05-17 Thread Rick Macdougall
Michael Monnerie wrote: Finally measured again, it takes 1h7m to fetch from imap plus remove all markups: # time fetchmail -kasnp IMAP --folder $spamfolder--user $spamuser -m "formail -s |spamassassin -d >>/tmp/x" $mailhost real67m10.352s user51m41.350s sys 3m27.170s mfg zmi Why

Re: learning from IMAP spam collection

2009-05-17 Thread Michael Monnerie
Finally measured again, it takes 1h7m to fetch from imap plus remove all markups: # time fetchmail -kasnp IMAP --folder $spamfolder--user $spamuser -m "formail -s |spamassassin -d >>/tmp/x" $mailhost real67m10.352s user51m41.350s sys 3m27.170s mfg zmi -- // Michael Monnerie, Ing.BS

Re: EmailBL hit count

2009-05-17 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 5/17/2009 2:09 PM, LuKreme wrote: On 16-May-2009, at 21:25, Bill Landry wrote: LuKreme wrote: grep EMAILBL /var/log/maillog.1 | grep -v "is spam" | wc -l ?? How is that going to work if you are telling grep to output everything that does NOT contain "is spam" (-v = select non-matching lin

Re: EmailBL hit count

2009-05-17 Thread LuKreme
On 16-May-2009, at 21:25, Bill Landry wrote: LuKreme wrote: grep EMAILBL /var/log/maillog.1 | grep -v "is spam" | wc -l ?? How is that going to work if you are telling grep to output everything that does NOT contain "is spam" (-v = select non-matching lines)? Right. How many emails that we

Re: learning from IMAP spam collection

2009-05-17 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Sonntag 17 Mai 2009 Michael Monnerie wrote: To clarify my posting, here some additions: > Question 1: > Do I need to call spamc twice, once with "-L spam" and once with "-C > report"? Do I understand correctly that -L trains my bayes, while -C > reports to spamcop etc.? The man page of spamc p

learning from IMAP spam collection

2009-05-17 Thread Michael Monnerie
Dear experts, I have a question regarding spam/ham learning, regarding performance. I store spam in a mail folder accessible via IMAP. Then I want to feed this into bayes. For this, I do: fetchmail -asnp IMAP --folder autolearn --user $username -m "formail -s |spamassassin -d >>/tmp/x" $mailse