Re: bad rules that likely to result in more false positives

2008-07-03 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> On Jul 3, 2008, at 12:14 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > >>>Please, don't send private replies, I did not ask for > >>>them. > > > >On 02.07.08 21:32, Jari Fredriksson wrote: > >>Its impossible to know who wants them, and who does not. > > > >my mail headers contain Mail-Followup-To: header t

How administer old spammed mail with spamassassin and procmail ?

2008-07-03 Thread Philippe Couas
Hi, I wante use procmail with spamassassin and put into an spécial directory spammed mail. But, how could i read theses mail ? do i need to create an special account for each user or not ? How could i delete old spammed mail if user don't verify it ? could i make it with logrotate ? I search s

Re: Cannot scan! SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line 164.

2008-07-03 Thread Sahil Tandon
Richard Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Stopping SpamAssassin Mail Filter Daemon: No /usr/bin/perl found This is odd, try to fix it. [...] > check: no loaded plugin implements 'check_main': cannot scan! > at /usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line

Re: Cannot scan! SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line 164.

2008-07-03 Thread Richard Johnson
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 21:53 +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 20:38 +0100, Richard Johnson wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 13:34 -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > > > > If you're missing pre files, I would suggest reinstalling SA. A normal > > > installation will include t

Charles Mount/GIS/CSC is out of the office.

2008-07-03 Thread Charles Mount
I will be out of the office starting 07/03/2008 and will not return until 07/08/2008. I will be out of the office until Jan 30rd. I will respond to your message when I return.

Re: Why are BAYES_00 to BAYES_40 scores negative?

2008-07-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Robert Case wrote: I'm going to ask a really silly question... First, my particulars: Fedora Core 8 x86_64 Qmail 1.03 (Running a Modified QmailRocks configuration, which is everything except vpopmail) Qscan ClamAV SpamAssassin 3.2.4 I periodically audit messages that get through SpamAssassin to

Re: Why are BAYES_00 to BAYES_40 scores negative?

2008-07-03 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 05:00:13PM -0700, Robert Case wrote: > I noticed that in many of the messages that got through were hitting the > BAYES_00 through BAYES_40 rules. I looked at the rules page, and the scores > for those rules are negative (ranging from -2.599 (eek!) to -0.185). When > you g

Re: Why are BAYES_00 to BAYES_40 scores negative?

2008-07-03 Thread Sahil Tandon
Robert Case <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I periodically audit messages that get through SpamAssassin to see why they > didn't reach the score threshold (mine is set at 3.5). I compare the > messages with the scoring details that get logged in "maillog". > > I noticed that in many of the messages

Why are BAYES_00 to BAYES_40 scores negative?

2008-07-03 Thread Robert Case
I'm going to ask a really silly question... First, my particulars: Fedora Core 8 x86_64 Qmail 1.03 (Running a Modified QmailRocks configuration, which is everything except vpopmail) Qscan ClamAV SpamAssassin 3.2.4 I periodically audit messages that get through SpamAssassin to see why they didn't

Re: Day Old Bread/Spammers

2008-07-03 Thread Kris Deugau
Mailing Lists wrote: Here's today's first WagonJumper's email ... the domain has a registry date back in October 2007. One of the bottom img src tags is the WagonJumper's logo img. I'd love to find a way to be able to scan those imgs - but since they are image refs, and not embedded - that d

Re: bad rules that likely to result in more false positives

2008-07-03 Thread Sahil Tandon
Jo Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jul 3, 2008, at 12:14 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: Please, don't send private replies, I did not ask for them. >> >> On 02.07.08 21:32, Jari Fredriksson wrote: >>> Its impossible to know who wants them, and who does not. >> >> my mail headers

Re: bad rules that likely to result in more false positives

2008-07-03 Thread Jo Rhett
On Jul 3, 2008, at 12:14 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: Please, don't send private replies, I did not ask for them. On 02.07.08 21:32, Jari Fredriksson wrote: Its impossible to know who wants them, and who does not. my mail headers contain Mail-Followup-To: header that is only sent to t

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-03 Thread Marc Perkel
Richard Frovarp wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: Michele Neylon wrote: On 2 Jul 2008, at 19:56, Marc Perkel wrote: Again - it's not to figure out where spam comes from. It's figuring out where non-spam comes from. I think there are registrars out there that don't have any spam domains regis

Re: Cannot scan! SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line 164.

2008-07-03 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 20:38 +0100, Richard Johnson wrote: > On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 13:34 -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > > If you're missing pre files, I would suggest reinstalling SA. A normal > > installation will include the content you need, and who knows what else you > > are missing. > > I

Re: Cannot scan! SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line 164.

2008-07-03 Thread Richard Johnson
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 13:34 -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 06:01:21PM +0100, Richard Johnson wrote: > > As the .pre files are missing, what would I do to rectify it? What > > should they contain? > > If you're missing pre files, I would suggest reinstalling SA. A normal

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-03 Thread Andrzej Adam Filip
Marc Perkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > On 03.07.08 13:22, Henrik K wrote: > > > If lesser registrar means that it's probably ham, why couldn't > someone use > that to add some negative scores or use it as a part of whitelist > trustw

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-03 Thread Richard Frovarp
Marc Perkel wrote: Michele Neylon wrote: On 2 Jul 2008, at 19:56, Marc Perkel wrote: Again - it's not to figure out where spam comes from. It's figuring out where non-spam comes from. I think there are registrars out there that don't have any spam domains registered. What are you t

Re: Cannot scan! SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line 164.

2008-07-03 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 18:01 +0100, Richard Johnson wrote: > Thank you, Karsten. I've learned the [ctrl] + [l] now. My apologies, I > did not want to start a war. Nah, you didn't, don't worry. :) guenther -- char *t="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"; main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=

RE: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-03 Thread Robert - elists
The registrars I'm talking about are extremely expensive and very exclusive. Spammers couldn't afford it. Hmm, check out markmonitor.com The really interesting point is this. Since so much spam is about getting brand recognition in the peoples faces and not necessarily gettin

Re: Cannot scan! SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line 164.

2008-07-03 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 06:01:21PM +0100, Richard Johnson wrote: > As the .pre files are missing, what would I do to rectify it? What > should they contain? If you're missing pre files, I would suggest reinstalling SA. A normal installation will include the content you need, and who knows what el

RE: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-03 Thread Robert - elists
> > no, you do not do that. See the clamav-milter or other apropriate program. > SA is very CPU intensive so it's better to scan with clamav directly, > instead of using SA clamav plugin Matus... You are smart person. Maybe you could tell the clamav plugin people... ;-) Actually, yes, we do

Re: Cannot scan! SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line 164.

2008-07-03 Thread Richard Johnson
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 16:34 +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > > Leaving the evolution plugin thing to one side for now. > > > > I don't have any .pre files. /etc/spamassassin is empty. > > See, there's your problem. > Thank you, Karsten. I've learned the [ctrl] + [l] now. My apologies, I di

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-03 Thread Michele Neylon
On 3 Jul 2008, at 16:26, Marc Perkel wrote: It's interesting how the concept of white rules seems to be beyond comprehension here. There is a registrar called markmonitor.com that looks like a very high end and expensive registrar that only services big companies like banks and such. So doma

RE: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-03 Thread Bowie Bailey
Marc Perkel wrote: > > It's interesting how the concept of white rules seems to be beyond > comprehension here. There is a registrar called markmonitor.com that > looks like a very high end and expensive registrar that only services > big companies like banks and such. So domains who are registere

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-03 Thread Richard Frovarp
Marc Perkel wrote: Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 03.07.08 13:22, Henrik K wrote: If lesser registrar means that it's probably ham, why couldn't someone use that to add some negative scores or use it as a part of whitelist trustworthiness? Even if it's handful of domains, it's useful. If

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-03 Thread Marc Perkel
Michele Neylon wrote: On 2 Jul 2008, at 19:56, Marc Perkel wrote: Again - it's not to figure out where spam comes from. It's figuring out where non-spam comes from. I think there are registrars out there that don't have any spam domains registered. What are you trying to prove? You

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-03 Thread Marc Perkel
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 03.07.08 13:22, Henrik K wrote: If lesser registrar means that it's probably ham, why couldn't someone use that to add some negative scores or use it as a part of whitelist trustworthiness? Even if it's handful of domains, it's useful. If you could get the r

Re: Day Old Bread/Spammers

2008-07-03 Thread Mailing Lists
I thought I had uribl set up to check. But that was this one incident - most of them are day old. On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:39:36 -0500, Ken A wrote > # host contagiousensemble.com.black.uribl.com > contagiousensemble.com.black.uribl.com has address 127.0.0.2 > > uribl.com + milter-link = rejecte

Re: Better whitelisting with DNSWL

2008-07-03 Thread Marc Perkel
Henrik K wrote: On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 10:48:07AM +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 03.07.08 11:35, Henrik K wrote: I'd like to encourage people to take more advantage of DNSWL. I'm currently converting DNSWL entries into trusted_networks and using shortcircuited ALL_TR

RE: Clamav+phishing

2008-07-03 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 15:10 +0100, Sujit Acharyya-Choudhury wrote: > I am not using sanesecurity's clamav at present. However I have > downloaded the ndb files phish.ndb and scam.ndb and put them in > /var/lib/clamav which has the following: > clamd-socket daily.cld freshclam.pid main.inc > ..

Re: Cannot scan! SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line 164.

2008-07-03 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
Please Reply to List (Ctrl-L, FWIW) or at the very least Reply to All. On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 15:04 +0100, Richard Johnson wrote: > First of all apologies for top posting - I can't figure out how to get > evolution to quote properly. Huh? Evo did quote properly. Your reply contains a perfect ful

RMAIL Emacs sorting, filtering spam messages with spamassassin headers

2008-07-03 Thread Don Saklad
What newsgroup or newsgroups, listserv or listservs, web forum or webforums, et al might have information?... about what RMAIL Emacs existing commands there are for people who haven't programming expertise, existing commands useful for sorting out spam messages during a single session. Existing sin

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-03 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 03.07.08 13:22, Henrik K wrote: > If lesser registrar means that it's probably ham, why couldn't someone use > that to add some negative scores or use it as a part of whitelist > trustworthiness? Even if it's handful of domains, it's useful. If you could > get the registrar data without expensiv

RE: Clamav+phishing

2008-07-03 Thread Sujit Acharyya-Choudhury
I am not using sanesecurity's clamav at present. However I have downloaded the ndb files phish.ndb and scam.ndb and put them in /var/lib/clamav which has the following: clamd-socket daily.cld freshclam.pid main.inc .. clamd.pid daily.inc main.cld It does not pass the tests. I have even

Re: Day Old Bread/Spammers

2008-07-03 Thread Ken A
# host contagiousensemble.com.black.uribl.com contagiousensemble.com.black.uribl.com has address 127.0.0.2 uribl.com + milter-link = rejected spam Ken Mailing Lists wrote: Here's today's first WagonJumper's email ... the domain has a registry date back in October 2007. One of the bottom img

Re: Cannot scan! SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line 164.

2008-07-03 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 10:11 +0100, Richard Johnson wrote: > I'm running Ubuntu gutsy and have spamassassin installed. The original > plan was to use it with Evolution. However, when I selected it as a > plugin within Evolution it put every item of mail into the 'junk' > folder and there were no sp

Re: Can you help me with this filter

2008-07-03 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 06:28 -0500, McDonald, Dan wrote: > On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 02:38 -0700, Linspeed wrote: > > However, for a certain string in the subject, I want it to bypass > > SpamAssassin. > > That string is [WL]. We've been doing that for years on our existing > > anti-spam system and nobo

Re: Clamav+phishing

2008-07-03 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 13:46 +0100, Sujit Acharyya-Choudhury wrote: > Dear All, > We are using clamAV 0.93.1 as our virus checker on SLES9 using exim as > MTA. It catches lot of virus+phishing. However, lot of phishing > mails are recently getting through. Are you using the SANESECURITY signatur

Re: Clamav+phishing

2008-07-03 Thread Duane Hill
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Sujit Acharyya-Choudhury wrote: Dear All, We are using clamAV 0.93.1 as our virus checker on SLES9 using exim as MTA. It catches lot of virus+phishing. However, lot of phishing mails are recently getting through. Our spamassassin is version 3.1.7 (a bit old), but running

Clamav+phishing

2008-07-03 Thread Sujit Acharyya-Choudhury
Dear All, We are using clamAV 0.93.1 as our virus checker on SLES9 using exim as MTA. It catches lot of virus+phishing. However, lot of phishing mails are recently getting through. Our spamassassin is version 3.1.7 (a bit old), but running lot of SARE rules as well as sought_rules. The question

Re: Day Old Bread/Spammers

2008-07-03 Thread Mailing Lists
Here's today's first WagonJumper's email ... the domain has a registry date back in October 2007. One of the bottom img src tags is the WagonJumper's logo img. I'd love to find a way to be able to scan those imgs - but since they are image refs, and not embedded - that doesn't occur. >From

Re: Can you help me with this filter

2008-07-03 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 02:38 -0700, Linspeed wrote: > However, for a certain string in the subject, I want it to bypass > SpamAssassin. > That string is [WL]. We've been doing that for years on our existing > anti-spam system and nobody has ever sent us spam with [WL] in the subject. > > So I chang

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-03 Thread Michele Neylon
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Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-03 Thread Henrik K
On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 11:09:15AM +0100, Michele Neylon wrote: > > On 2 Jul 2008, at 19:56, Marc Perkel wrote: >>> >> >> Again - it's not to figure out where spam comes from. It's figuring >> out where non-spam comes from. I think there are registrars out there >> that don't have any spam domai

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-03 Thread Michele Neylon
On 2 Jul 2008, at 19:56, Marc Perkel wrote: Again - it's not to figure out where spam comes from. It's figuring out where non-spam comes from. I think there are registrars out there that don't have any spam domains registered. What are you trying to prove? Your logic completely esca

Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-03 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 03.07.08 11:04, Starckjohann, Ove wrote: > it was NOT us, who was scoring with CLAMAV - it was Chris > (see first respone to my initial question). Oh, I see, sorry... > We're using SA as "one under many" tests which the > smtp-proxy performs during the smtp-communication. > virus-check is d

Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-03 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> Matus UHLAR - fantomas writes: > > > > one does need to score viruses in SA if (s)he can reject them directly > > > > On 02.07.08 09:27, Robert - elists wrote: > > > Yes, we do that. > > > > > > See the SA clamav plugin > > > > no, you do not do that. See the clamav-milter or other apropriate

Can you help me with this filter

2008-07-03 Thread Linspeed
Hello I've just started using SpamAssassin this morning. In my procmailrc file, I have this at the top: :0fw: spamassassin.lock * < 512000 | spamassassin i.e. the recommended default. Works perfectly OK. From there on, I have a lot of other filters, again all working. However, for a certain

Re: Better whitelisting with DNSWL

2008-07-03 Thread Matthias Leisi
> [snip code + explanation] Very nice :) > It would be nice to see something like this built into SA in the future, > possibly even distributing all the entries daily with sa-update. We can produce almost any export format of dnswl.org data, also in a way that it would fit for some sa-update cha

Cannot scan! SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line 164.

2008-07-03 Thread Richard Johnson
Hello, this is the first time I've used a 'list' so if I have posted in the wrong context or using the wrong protocol please forgive my blunder. Let me try again as clearly I did something wrong and 'hijacked' a thread accidentally. Can someone help me with Spamassassin? Here is an overview of wh

AW: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-03 Thread Starckjohann, Ove
it was NOT us, who was scoring with CLAMAV - it was Chris (see first respone to my initial question). We're using SA as "one under many" tests which the smtp-proxy performs during the smtp-communication. virus-check is done by another (windoze-based ;-) ) product... Ove Starckjohann > ---

Re: How to enable a 'userconf' target?

2008-07-03 Thread Ralf Fassel
* McDonald, Dan | > How do I enable a target tagged 'userconf'? | | The flag just checks that there is something configured before it | fires. 'Something' meaning "something, and you'll have to lookup in the code what exactly"? | > Which magic do I have to put in my user_prefs file so that the |

Re: Better whitelisting with DNSWL

2008-07-03 Thread ram
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 10:48 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 03.07.08 11:35, Henrik K wrote: > > I'd like to encourage people to take more advantage of DNSWL. > > while DNSWL('s) may be good, I encountered many cases whan spam and bounces > won't get catched by SA because the sender is i

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-03 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 06:32, Henrik K wrote: > On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 09:18:41PM -0700, John Hardin wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 05:59 +0300, Henrik K wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 12:08:43PM -0700, John Hardin wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Marc Perkel wrote: > > > > > > > >>

Cannot Scan ... SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line 164.

2008-07-03 Thread Richard Johnson
Hello, this is the first time I've used a 'list' so if I have posted in the wrong context or using the wrong protocol please forgive my blunder. Can someone help me with Spamassassin? Here is an overview of where I am at: I'm running Ubuntu gutsy and have spamassassin installed. The original plan

Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-03 Thread Justin Mason
Matus UHLAR - fantomas writes: > > > one does need to score viruses in SA if (s)he can reject them directly > > On 02.07.08 09:27, Robert - elists wrote: > > Yes, we do that. > > > > See the SA clamav plugin > > no, you do not do that. See the clamav-milter or other apropriate program. > SA is

Re: Another Slow down for those using in High Volume environments..

2008-07-03 Thread Justin Mason
Michael Peddemors writes: > Complete Whois checks slow scans to 7.2 seconds from a more typical 1.5 > seconds.. Should this be a rule used by default? It will often stop > responding (whois) .. > > Just thought I would mention this during the latest rounds of testing .. > however this is sti

Re: Better whitelisting with DNSWL

2008-07-03 Thread Henrik K
On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 10:48:07AM +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 03.07.08 11:35, Henrik K wrote: > > I'd like to encourage people to take more advantage of DNSWL. > > while DNSWL('s) may be good, I encountered many cases whan spam and bounces > won't get catched by SA because the sende

Re: WrongMX plugin

2008-07-03 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 11.06.08 15:40, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 30.05.08 11:46, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > I'd like to use WrongMX plugin on our mailservers (I found it very good > > idea and I was explicitly searching for it), but I'd like to ask a few > > questions, if someone of you uses it: > > >

Re: Better whitelisting with DNSWL

2008-07-03 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 03.07.08 11:35, Henrik K wrote: > I'd like to encourage people to take more advantage of DNSWL. while DNSWL('s) may be good, I encountered many cases whan spam and bounces won't get catched by SA because the sender is in DNSQL. > I'm currently converting DNSWL entries into trusted_networks and

Better whitelisting with DNSWL

2008-07-03 Thread Henrik K
Hi, I'd like to encourage people to take more advantage of DNSWL. I'm currently converting DNSWL entries into trusted_networks and using shortcircuited ALL_TRUSTED to reduce unnecessary processing. Also DNS checks are reduced. With only 'med' and 'high' entries, 15% of my traffic hits ALL_TRUST

Re: bad rules that likely to result in more false positives

2008-07-03 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> > On 02.07.08 13:55, NGSS wrote: > >> To: 'Matus UHLAR - fantomas' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > >> users@spamassassin.apache.org > > > > Please, don't send private replies, I did not ask for > > them. On 02.07.08 21:32, Jari Fredriksson wrote: > Its impossible to know who wants them, and who does no