Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> > one does need to score viruses in SA if (s)he can reject them directly On 02.07.08 09:27, Robert - elists wrote: > Yes, we do that. > > See the SA clamav plugin no, you do not do that. See the clamav-milter or other apropriate program. SA is very CPU intensive so it's better to scan with cla

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-02 Thread Henrik K
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 09:18:41PM -0700, John Hardin wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 05:59 +0300, Henrik K wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 12:08:43PM -0700, John Hardin wrote: > > > On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Marc Perkel wrote: > > > > > >> Again - it's not to figure out where spam comes from. It's

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-02 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 05:59 +0300, Henrik K wrote: > On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 12:08:43PM -0700, John Hardin wrote: > > On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Marc Perkel wrote: > > > >> Again - it's not to figure out where spam comes from. It's figuring out > >> where non-spam comes from. I think there are registrar

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-02 Thread Henrik K
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 12:08:43PM -0700, John Hardin wrote: > On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Marc Perkel wrote: > >> Again - it's not to figure out where spam comes from. It's figuring out >> where non-spam comes from. I think there are registrars out there that >> don't have any spam domains registered.

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-02 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Marc Perkel wrote: Again - it's not to figure out where spam comes from. It's figuring out where non-spam comes from. I think there are registrars out there that don't have any spam domains registered. Right, but how do you guarantee a host with a whitelisted RDNS domain n

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-02 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Marc Perkel wrote: John Hardin wrote: On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Marc Perkel wrote: > Is there an easy way to detect the registrar of a domain through DNS? > For example - can I easilly figure out if an email I'm processing is > hosted by GoDaddy or Tucows? Registrar != h

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-02 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Martin Gregorie wrote: OK, but it still won't work. A lot of spam comes from botnets: hence my comment about PC users. There's certainly no correlation between the location of infected PCs and the reputation of the domain registrar of the domain the infected PC is posting fro

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-02 Thread Marc Perkel
Martin Gregorie wrote: On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 18:46, Marc Perkel wrote: Martin Gregorie wrote: On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 17:05, Marc Perkel wrote: Is there an easy way to detect the registrar of a domain through DNS? For example - can I easilly figure out if an email I'm process

Re: bad rules that likely to result in more false positives

2008-07-02 Thread Jari Fredriksson
> On 02.07.08 13:55, NGSS wrote: >> To: 'Matus UHLAR - fantomas' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >> users@spamassassin.apache.org > > Please, don't send private replies, I did not ask for > them. > Its impossible to know who wants them, and who does not. Someone who does not sit here and read all message

Re: Lots of spam with the following snip

2008-07-02 Thread PlantItWeb Administrator
- Original Message - From: "mouss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:27 PM Subject: Re: Lots of spam with the following snip Justin Mason wrote: [snip] On 01.07.08 10:50, Justin Mason wrote: no -- this is real spam, not a bounce in any way. same here. not

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-02 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 18:46, Marc Perkel wrote: > > Martin Gregorie wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 17:05, Marc Perkel wrote: > > > > > Is there an easy way to detect the registrar of a domain through DNS? > > > For example - can I easilly figure out if an email I'm processing is > > > hosted

Re: How to enable a 'userconf' target?

2008-07-02 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 19:31 +0200, Ralf Fassel wrote: > SpamAssassin version 3.1.8 > running on Perl version 5.8.8 > OpenSuse 10.2, latest patchlevel > > How do I enable a target tagged 'userconf'? > The flag just checks that there is something configured before it fires. > I'd like to have

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-02 Thread Marc Perkel
Martin Gregorie wrote: On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 17:05, Marc Perkel wrote: Is there an easy way to detect the registrar of a domain through DNS? For example - can I easilly figure out if an email I'm processing is hosted by GoDaddy or Tucows? Even if it was possible I don't think its wou

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-02 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 17:05, Marc Perkel wrote: > Is there an easy way to detect the registrar of a domain through DNS? > For example - can I easilly figure out if an email I'm processing is > hosted by GoDaddy or Tucows? > Even if it was possible I don't think its would be at all useful. Spammers

How to enable a 'userconf' target?

2008-07-02 Thread Ralf Fassel
SpamAssassin version 3.1.8 running on Perl version 5.8.8 OpenSuse 10.2, latest patchlevel How do I enable a target tagged 'userconf'? I'd like to have all messages checked against the BODY_8BITS target defined in /usr/share/spamassassin/25_textcat.cf: body BODY_8BITS

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-02 Thread Marc Perkel
John Hardin wrote: On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Marc Perkel wrote: Is there an easy way to detect the registrar of a domain through DNS? For example - can I easilly figure out if an email I'm processing is hosted by GoDaddy or Tucows? Registrar != hosted by. Here's what I'm thinking. I think there

Re: Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-02 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Marc Perkel wrote: Is there an easy way to detect the registrar of a domain through DNS? For example - can I easilly figure out if an email I'm processing is hosted by GoDaddy or Tucows? Registrar != hosted by. Here's what I'm thinking. I think there's some expensive and

RE: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Robert - elists
> > one does need to score viruses in SA if (s)he can reject them directly > -- Yes, we do that. See the SA clamav plugin - rh

Detecting the Registrar of the sending host?

2008-07-02 Thread Marc Perkel
Is there an easy way to detect the registrar of a domain through DNS? For example - can I easilly figure out if an email I'm processing is hosted by GoDaddy or Tucows? Here's what I'm thinking. I think there's some expensive and highly secure registrars out there who are the registrar of expen

Re: AW: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Jonas Eckerman
Starckjohann, Ove wrote: Received: from n75.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([10.10.10.21]) by EXCHANGE02.norddeutsche.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:58:44 +0200 10.10.10.21 is MY address. It's a smtp-PROXY which passes through the smtp-connection to EXCHANG

Re: AW: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Arvid Ephraim Picciani
On Wednesday 02 July 2008 16:34:12 SM wrote: > At 05:23 02-07-2008, Starckjohann, Ove wrote: > >10.10.10.21 is MY address. It's a smtp-PROXY which passes through > >the smtp-connection to EXCHANGE02. > > Network tests on the message headers will be ineffective. > that was my worry. With the defaul

Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> > you seem not to reject viruses at SMTP level ;) otherwise clamav couldn't > > score them :) On 02.07.08 08:13, Robert - elists wrote: > One can score an email and still reject during the SMTP session if the > systems are setup to do so. one does need to score viruses in SA if (s)he can reject

RE: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Robert - elists
> > you seem not to reject viruses at SMTP level ;) otherwise clamav couldn't > score them :) > One can score an email and still reject during the SMTP session if the systems are setup to do so. - rh

Re: FreeMail Plugin

2008-07-02 Thread Duane Hill
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Dj Helmes wrote: Where can I find the url to download the FreeMail Plugin? Right on the plugins wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/CustomPlugins It's toward the bottom of the page.

Re: AW: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> At 05:23 02-07-2008, Starckjohann, Ove wrote: > >10.10.10.21 is MY address. It's a smtp-PROXY which passes through > >the smtp-connection to EXCHANGE02. On 02.07.08 07:34, SM wrote: > Network tests on the message headers will be ineffective. not if the 10.10.10.21 is in trusted_networks and in

Re: FreeMail Plugin

2008-07-02 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 10:14 -0400, Dj Helmes wrote: > Where can I find the url to download the FreeMail Plugin? http://sa.hege.li/FreeMail.pm > -- > DJ Helmes -- Daniel J McDonald, CCIE #2495, CISSP #78281, CNX Austin Energy http://www.austinenergy.com signature.asc Description: This is a dig

Re: AW: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread SM
At 05:23 02-07-2008, Starckjohann, Ove wrote: 10.10.10.21 is MY address. It's a smtp-PROXY which passes through the smtp-connection to EXCHANGE02. Network tests on the message headers will be ineffective. Regards, -sm

Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Jonas Eckerman
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: we DO reject at smtp-level if we are sure that the mail is spam. you seem not to reject viruses at SMTP level ;) otherwise clamav couldn't score them :) Or 1: they may use SpamAssassin during SMTP conversations in order to reject at SMTP level based on SpamAss

FreeMail Plugin

2008-07-02 Thread Dj Helmes
Where can I find the url to download the FreeMail Plugin? -- DJ Helmes

Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> > > But pls tell me: how may CLAMAV score with 10 points ? > > > where is the "virus" ??? > > > > virus, phish, PUA or false-positive. I recommend reject them > > as SMTP level, not in SA plugin, if possible On 02.07.08 15:25, Starckjohann, Ove wrote: > we DO reject at smtp-level if we are sur

AW: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Starckjohann, Ove
> > But pls tell me: how may CLAMAV score with 10 points ? > > where is the "virus" ??? > > virus, phish, PUA or false-positive. I recommend reject them > as SMTP level, not in SA plugin, if possible we DO reject at smtp-level if we are sure that the mail is spam. Our smtp-proxy is doing own te

Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 02.07.08 14:58, Starckjohann, Ove wrote: please configura your mail client to wrap lines below 80 characters per linx. 72 to 76 is good. > i added L_UNVERIFIED_YAHOO and GEO_QUERY_STRING to my rules, as i'm still > using SA_3.17...so maybe those rules are only embedded into the 3.2x'er > SA.

Re: AW: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Stefan Hornburg
Starckjohann, Ove wrote: nice .-) i added L_UNVERIFIED_YAHOO and GEO_QUERY_STRING to my rules, as i'm still using SA_3.17...so maybe those rules are only embedded into the 3.2x'er SA. But pls tell me: how may CLAMAV score with 10 points ? where is the "virus" ??? This is probably ClamAV wit

AW: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Starckjohann, Ove
nice .-) i added L_UNVERIFIED_YAHOO and GEO_QUERY_STRING to my rules, as i'm still using SA_3.17...so maybe those rules are only embedded into the 3.2x'er SA. But pls tell me: how may CLAMAV score with 10 points ? where is the "virus" ??? Ove > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Chri

AW: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Starckjohann, Ove
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: McDonald, Dan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 14:00 > An: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Betreff: Re: i'm unable to catch these > > > On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 13:40 +0200, Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: > > >Received: from n75.

Re: whitelist_from/whitelist_auth and custom score

2008-07-02 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 02.07.08 11:12, Helmut Schneider wrote: > I would like to do some whitelisting for an external mailing list. I found > "whitelist_from" and "whitelist_auth" but they automatically score -100. Is > there a way to use whitelist_* or something similiar with a custom score? you can use def_whitel

Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 13:40 +0200, Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: > >Received: from n75.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([10.10.10.21]) by > >EXCHANGE02.norddeutsche.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); > > Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:58:44 +0200 > > huh? what's that weird IP doing there? yahoo trans

Re: whitelist_from/whitelist_auth and custom score

2008-07-02 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 11:12 +0200, Helmut Schneider wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to do some whitelisting for an external mailing list. I found > "whitelist_from" and "whitelist_auth" but they automatically score -100. Is > there a way to use whitelist_* or something similiar with a custom score

Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Duane Hill
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: Received: from n75.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([10.10.10.21]) by EXCHANGE02.norddeutsche.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:58:44 +0200 huh? what's that weird IP doing there? It's a version.

Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Arvid Ephraim Picciani
>Received: from n75.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([10.10.10.21]) by >EXCHANGE02.norddeutsche.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); >Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:58:44 +0200 huh? what's that weird IP doing there? -- best regards Arvid Ephraim Picciani

Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread mouss
Starckjohann, Ove wrote: Hello! during the last days i do get the following mails and i'm unable to catch/score them http://www.norddeutsche.de/temp/20080630185844296.eml.txt Content analysis details: (9.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---

Re: i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Chris
On Wednesday 02 July 2008 4:08 am, Starckjohann, Ove wrote: > Hello! > > during the last days i do get the following mails and i'm unable to > catch/score them > > http://www.norddeutsche.de/temp/20080630185844296.eml.txt > http://www.norddeutsche.de/temp/20080701190353407.eml.txt > > Any tips/

whitelist_from/whitelist_auth and custom score

2008-07-02 Thread Helmut Schneider
Hi, I would like to do some whitelisting for an external mailing list. I found "whitelist_from" and "whitelist_auth" but they automatically score -100. Is there a way to use whitelist_* or something similiar with a custom score? Thanks, Helmut -- No Swen today, my love has gone away My mailb

i'm unable to catch these

2008-07-02 Thread Starckjohann, Ove
Hello! during the last days i do get the following mails and i'm unable to catch/score them http://www.norddeutsche.de/temp/20080630185844296.eml.txt http://www.norddeutsche.de/temp/20080701190353407.eml.txt Any tips/hints how to score them ? Ove Starckjohann

RE: SUBJ_ALL_CAP, where to adjust score for this ?

2008-07-02 Thread NGSS
Thanks for all your helps. Ya, you had my question answered. I need to lower this score because it consistently give 2.1 for an All capital letter subject to my email. As some of you might know. It is pretty common for accounting related staff to cap-lock their keyboard all the time, and usually

Re: SUBJ_ALL_CAP, where to adjust score for this ?

2008-07-02 Thread mouss
NGSS wrote: I did a spamassasin -D --lint , but cannot find where this rule came from. Anyone knows this? do you mean SUBJ_ALL_CAPS? it is defined in 20_head_tests.cf (score is in in 50_scores.cf as usual). score SUBJ_ALL_CAPS 2.299 1.806 1.926 2.077 do not alter distributed rule fil

Re: SUBJ_ALL_CAP, where to adjust score for this ?

2008-07-02 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 14:56 +0800, NGSS wrote: > I did a spamassasin –D --lint , but cannot find where this rule came > from. Anyone knows this? 20_head_tests.cf, with the stock score set in 50_scores.cf. However, this seriously doesn't matter... Do NOT adjust scores in the SA provided cf files.

Re: rejecting emails from gmail.com

2008-07-02 Thread mouss
NGSS wrote: Something is wrong with the configuration. Does anyone know which sa rule is responsible for this ? Probably not SA: SA does not reject mail. whatever tool you use to call SA may, but then it may reject for other reasons. Please tell us more. http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/tools