Re: charter.net

2007-08-25 Thread Matt Kettler
Ray Dzek wrote: > Just as a side note... > > I am a charter customer. I have spoken with their techincal assistance > many times, and at various levels, for myself and on behalf of others I > have tried to assist. They are by far the most incompetent ISP I have > ever dealt with. They only have

Re: report_header and use_terse_report errors

2007-08-25 Thread Matt Kettler
Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: >> that's nothing like the defaults. >> > > My (uncommented) settings are: > report_safe 0 > trusted_networks 192.168/16 > lock_method flock > required_score 5.0 > use_bayes 1 > bayes_auto_learn 1 > bayes_ignore_header X-Bogosity > bayes_ignore_header X-Spam-Flag > baye

Re: Posioned MX is a bad idea

2007-08-25 Thread Rob McEwen
Marc, Overall good answers... but about six months ago, one of my users was joe jobbed in "biblical proportions"... in this case, the spammer chose this one "real" address and that spammer must have either sent the bots this info, or pre-programmed the bots. When the spam run started, this pa

Re: Posioned MX is a bad idea

2007-08-25 Thread John D. Hardin
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007, Marc Perkel wrote: > Rob McEwen wrote: > > > (2) On the other hand, consider the scenerio where a single e-mail > > address is Joe Jobbed in millions of spams... and that address is > > valid (and this is quite common as worms play musical chair with > > infected computers

Re: Posioned MX is a bad idea [Was: Email forwarding and RBL trouble]

2007-08-25 Thread Marc Perkel
Rob McEwen wrote: Marc Perkel said: If someone is sending email using one of my domains I want people verifying the sender addresses. That way spam that is spoofing my domains won't get delivered. Marc: (1) Sure, this covers spoofing where the alias is invalid for that domain, but it does

Re: Posioned MX is a bad idea [Was: Email forwarding and RBL trouble]

2007-08-25 Thread Duane Hill
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 at 13:42 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: Duane Hill wrote: On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 at 13:08 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: Further, how does check_sender_mx_access differ from Sender Address Verification (SAV)? (where SAV is an INCREDIBLY bad idea, and a blight

Re: Posioned MX is a bad idea [Was: Email forwarding and RBL trouble]

2007-08-25 Thread Rob McEwen
Marc Perkel said: If someone is sending email using one of my domains I want people verifying the sender addresses. That way spam that is spoofing my domains won't get delivered. Marc: (1) Sure, this covers spoofing where the alias is invalid for that domain, but it doesn't do anything about

Re: Posioned MX is a bad idea [Was: Email forwarding and RBL trouble]

2007-08-25 Thread Dave Pooser
> If > someone is sending email using one of my domains I want people verifying > the sender addresses. So do you run your servers with VRFY enabled? -- Dave Pooser Cat-Herder-in-Chief Pooserville.com "Jon, the CIA's credibility has never been lower. Crazy people no longer believe the CIA is imp

Re: Posioned MX is a bad idea [Was: Email forwarding and RBL trouble]

2007-08-25 Thread Marc Perkel
John Rudd wrote: mouss wrote: Kai Schaetzl wrote: Rense Buijen wrote on Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:43:19 +0200: I didn't know that a backup MX can lead to more trouble then having just one Unfortunately, backup MXes attract spammers :-(. You could at least add some more backup MXs (that

Re: Posioned MX is a bad idea [Was: Email forwarding and RBL trouble]

2007-08-25 Thread John Rudd
Nikolay Shopik wrote: On 8/26/2007 12:08 AM, John Rudd wrote: mouss wrote: Kai Schaetzl wrote: Rense Buijen wrote on Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:43:19 +0200: I didn't know that a backup MX can lead to more trouble then having just one Unfortunately, backup MXes attract spammers :-(. You cou

Re: Posioned MX is a bad idea [Was: Email forwarding and RBL trouble]

2007-08-25 Thread Marc Perkel
mouss wrote: Kai Schaetzl wrote: Rense Buijen wrote on Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:43:19 +0200: I didn't know that a backup MX can lead to more trouble then having just one Unfortunately, backup MXes attract spammers :-(. You could at least add some more backup MXs (that don't exist) on to

Re: Posioned MX is a bad idea [Was: Email forwarding and RBL trouble]

2007-08-25 Thread John Rudd
Duane Hill wrote: On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 at 13:08 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: Further, how does check_sender_mx_access differ from Sender Address Verification (SAV)? (where SAV is an INCREDIBLY bad idea, and a blight upon the internet) (meaning: if check_sender_mx_access is just the

Re: Posioned MX is a bad idea [Was: Email forwarding and RBL trouble]

2007-08-25 Thread Duane Hill
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 at 13:08 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: Further, how does check_sender_mx_access differ from Sender Address Verification (SAV)? (where SAV is an INCREDIBLY bad idea, and a blight upon the internet) (meaning: if check_sender_mx_access is just the postfix name for SA

Re: Posioned MX is a bad idea [Was: Email forwarding and RBL trouble]

2007-08-25 Thread John Rudd
mouss wrote: Kai Schaetzl wrote: Rense Buijen wrote on Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:43:19 +0200: I didn't know that a backup MX can lead to more trouble then having just one Unfortunately, backup MXes attract spammers :-(. You could at least add some more backup MXs (that don't exist) on top

Re: Posioned MX is a bad idea [Was: Email forwarding and RBL trouble]

2007-08-25 Thread mouss
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Mouss wrote on Sat, 25 Aug 2007 16:51:07 +0200: check_sender_mx_access. this won't detect MX hostnames resolving to valid but not reachable IP no.s. sure, which may lead to the creation of a dedicated blacklist.

Re: Posioned MX is a bad idea [Was: Email forwarding and RBL trouble]

2007-08-25 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Mouss wrote on Sat, 25 Aug 2007 16:51:07 +0200: > check_sender_mx_access. this won't detect MX hostnames resolving to valid but not reachable IP no.s. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com

Re: charter.net

2007-08-25 Thread Tom Ray
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Jonn R Taylor wrote on Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:30:22 -0500: What even more interesting is that they block 25 out going. So I am not sure why we all see so much spam from them. The spam is comming from *.dhcp.*.*.charter.com. Obviously, there's no such blockage. I r

Re: How to stop these?

2007-08-25 Thread Kai Schaetzl
report the spam to AOL. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com

Re: How to stop these?

2007-08-25 Thread Kai Schaetzl
What's the problem? "Great Chinese Proverb" is genuine enough, isn't it? Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com

Posioned MX is a bad idea [Was: Email forwarding and RBL trouble]

2007-08-25 Thread mouss
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Rense Buijen wrote on Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:43:19 +0200: I didn't know that a backup MX can lead to more trouble then having just one Unfortunately, backup MXes attract spammers :-(. You could at least add some more backup MXs (that don't exist) on top of that, that

Re: How to stop these?

2007-08-25 Thread mouss
Rick Zeman wrote: I doubt that spammers have gotten sophisticated enough to have lists of of Middle Eastern names with US-based addresses. There's something else going on, methinks. It is possible that most of these addresses were found in the address book of some [EMAIL PROTECTED] by a

Re: report_header and use_terse_report errors

2007-08-25 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hello, On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:38:13 -0400, Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: >> >> I went for the report_safe 0 option but what I would really like to get > is >> also the spam YES/NO flag in it. >> >> I have X-Spam-Score: 22.7 (++) >> X-Spam-Re