Re: postini.com

2006-07-31 Thread John Andersen
On Monday 31 July 2006 15:10, John D. Hardin wrote: > On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, jdow wrote: > > Is postini even remotely legitimate? > > What's even funnier is that they are a commercial spam filter > service provider. > > This might really damage their reputation... Not likely. My ISP uses them as a

Re: cgpav: Error spam checking file

2006-07-31 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 10:20:44AM +0600, Tshering NORBU wrote: > I am posting my mail again. Does anyone in the list know > about the following error? > > cgpav: Error spam checking file: > /var/CommuniGate/Queue/21294134.msg > > Your suggestion will be highly appreciated. Since the problem i

Re: cgpav: Error spam checking file

2006-07-31 Thread jdow
Ask the CommuniGate people. It's impossible to tell from that message that anything wrong happened with SpamAssassin. {^_^} - Original Message - From: "Tshering NORBU" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am posting my mail again. Does anyone in the list know about the following error? cgpav: Er

Re: (OT) RE: How do I assign a negative score to BAYES_00 ?

2006-07-31 Thread jdow
From: "Gary D. Margiotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I laughed myself into a coughing fit after reading this, after a long day, this was welcome. It's one of my more fun riffs that I dig out from time to time when it seems to fit the situation. When an application is as obviously broken as cpanel see

cgpav: Error spam checking file

2006-07-31 Thread Tshering NORBU
I am posting my mail again. Does anyone in the list know about the following error? cgpav: Error spam checking file: /var/CommuniGate/Queue/21294134.msg Your suggestion will be highly appreciated. NORBU +++ Get a free DrukNet e-mail account a

Re: Retagging false positives?

2006-07-31 Thread Robert Nicholson
Yes that's correct. when you relearn a message for bayes you don't need to write a new message at all. You just update the db based on the contents of the message as HAM or SPAM. that's easy because it's easy to query the message back using IMAP and the message-id. But I don't think IMAP wi

RE: postini.com

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Scheidell
> -Original Message- > From: Shane Mullins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:40 PM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: postini.com > > > I don't know about legitimate, but they have a very rude > staff. When we > first started looking at a anti

Re: (OT) RE: How do I assign a negative score to BAYES_00 ?

2006-07-31 Thread Gary D. Margiotta
Find a floppy disk. Format it. Move cpanel over to the floppy disk. Remove the floppy disk from the system. Wrap the floppy in alternating layers of foil, lead is best, and parafin until it is about 6" thick. Save it until the next full Moon. Take it to a graveyard. In a quiet corner dig a hole ab

Re: postini.com

2006-07-31 Thread Shane Mullins
I don't know about legitimate, but they have a very rude staff. When we first started looking at a anti-spam solution, my boss told me to contact them. Their staff was extremely rude and arrogant. I had to BEG my boss to let me even try a spamassassin solution. That was several years ago, an

Re: postini.com

2006-07-31 Thread Bart Schaefer
On 7/31/06, jdow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Both headers seem to feature X-Keywords: . I seem to be dumb this "virtual morning" and can't get a test to work for it. My guess is that X-IMAPbase, X-UID, Content-Length, and X-Keywords were added by the POP3 server at the last hop before your fetch

Re: How do I assign a negative score to BAYES_00 ?

2006-07-31 Thread Clay Davis
"negativesinceofhumor", sorry this was hilarious, but we're a bunch of geeks. Clay>>> On 7/31/2006 at 7:40 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, negativescore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello all, > > How do I assign a negative score to BAYES_00?  I use cpanel online, and> when > I enter a nega

Re: Image spams getting thru

2006-07-31 Thread Derek Harding
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 19:03 -0500, Tim wrote: > Thanks for the tip. That sounds pretty effective, actually. Care to > share your rule? Sure thing: rawbody INLINE_IMAGE/src\s*=\s*["']cid:/i describe INLINE_IMAGE Inline Images score INLINE_IMAGE 1.5 I haven't tested this against the SA c

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-07-31 Thread jdow
Remove him from the list. He is looping back to the list leading to apache.org mailer error reports claiming list messages already have headers. {^_^}

Possible test for these image spams

2006-07-31 Thread jdow
I noticed that they all have a very long line of spaces after the "X-Keyword:" header line. I also noticed that "header NAME X-Keyword:\s\s\s\s" simply does not work. It gets tokenized down to one blank. But a FULL test seems to be able to catch it. full JD_SPACES_KEYWORDS /X-Keywords:\s\s

Re: Image spams getting thru

2006-07-31 Thread Tim
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 04:57:49PM -0700, Derek Harding wrote: > At my (small) site we receive very few legitimate emails that have > attached images that are referenced in the HTML of the message. It's > basically only a few droolers who decided to use an image as their sig. > Thus testing for /sr

Re: (OT) RE: How do I assign a negative score to BAYES_00 ?

2006-07-31 Thread jdow
From: "Ken Goods" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> negativescore wrote: Hello all, How do I assign a negative score to BAYES_00? I use cpanel online, and when I enter a negative score, such as -3.0, it registers as no score at all--just blank space in the score cell. Please advise. Find a floppy disk.

Re: Image spams getting thru

2006-07-31 Thread Derek Harding
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 18:34 -0500, Tim wrote: > > But I find it amusing that people here are more interested in > telling > spammers how they can defeat an algorithm instead of the other > way around. 99% of the techniques in SpamAssassins hvae an easy > workaround - does that stop anybody from

Re: How do I assign a negative score to BAYES_00 ?

2006-07-31 Thread jdow
From: "negativescore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello all, How do I assign a negative score to BAYES_00? I use cpanel online, and when I enter a negative score, such as -3.0, it registers as no score at all--just blank space in the score cell. Please advise. Find a floppy disk. Format it. Mo

Re: postini.com

2006-07-31 Thread jdow
Earthlink is pretty good about reporting where things come from. And the address IS from an acm.org machine. It is in their netblock. I've never seen a forged Earthlink smtp Received header. It does look like the postini results are forged or are from a hacked DNS setup. - Original Message ---

(OT) RE: How do I assign a negative score to BAYES_00 ?

2006-07-31 Thread Ken Goods
negativescore wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> How do I assign a negative score to BAYES_00? I use cpanel online, >> and when I enter a negative score, such as -3.0, it registers as no >> score at all--just blank space in the score cell. >> >> Please advise. > > Find a floppy disk. Format it. Move cp

Re: postini.com

2006-07-31 Thread negativescore
Find a floppy disk. Format it. Move cpanel over to the floppy disk. Remove the floppy disk from the system. Wrap the floppy in alternating layers of foil, lead is best, and parafin until it is about 6" thick. Save it until the next full Moon. Take it to a graveyard. In a quiet corner dig a hol

Re: How do I assign a negative score to BAYES_00 ?

2006-07-31 Thread negativescore
> > Hello all, > > How do I assign a negative score to BAYES_00? I use cpanel online, and > when > I enter a negative score, such as -3.0, it registers as no score at > all--just blank space in the score cell. > > Please advise. Find a floppy disk. Format it. Move cpanel over to the flop

Re: How do I assign a negative score to BAYES_00 ?

2006-07-31 Thread jdow
From: "negativescore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello all, How do I assign a negative score to BAYES_00? I use cpanel online, and when I enter a negative score, such as -3.0, it registers as no score at all--just blank space in the score cell. Please advise. Find a floppy disk. Format it. Mov

RE: postini.com

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Scheidell
> -Original Message- > From: jdow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 7:16 PM > To: John D. Hardin > Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: postini.com > > Sample headers? I am sure you know that the only headers you can 100% truse are the last set (earthlink

Re: How do I assign a negative score to BAYES_00 ?

2006-07-31 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 04:04:31PM -0700, negativescore wrote: > How do I assign a negative score to BAYES_00? I use cpanel online, and when > I enter a negative score, such as -3.0, it registers as no score at > all--just blank space in the score cell. > > Please advise. sounds like a bug in

Re: Image spams getting thru

2006-07-31 Thread Tim
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 03:45:05PM -0500, Logan Shaw wrote: > On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, jdow wrote: > >Break the image into pieces. If too many pieces match on MD5 sum then > >you score it higher than if lots of the image is different. But that > >can get tedious to say the least. > > And there's also

How do I assign a negative score to BAYES_00 ?

2006-07-31 Thread negativescore
Hello all, How do I assign a negative score to BAYES_00? I use cpanel online, and when I enter a negative score, such as -3.0, it registers as no score at all--just blank space in the score cell. Please advise. Thank you! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/How-do-I-ass

Re: postini.com

2006-07-31 Thread jdow
From: "John D. Hardin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, jdow wrote: Is postini even remotely legitimate? What's even funnier is that they are a commercial spam filter service provider. This might really damage their reputation... Sample headers? ===8<--- Status: OU Return-Path: <

Re: postini.com

2006-07-31 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 04:11:43PM -0700, Ken A wrote: > These image spams are not easy to stop. I'm finally getting them with a > 'full' rule matching a string that is common in the base64 encoded image > part. I'm sure the image will change friday and break my rule for next > weekend though.

Re: postini.com

2006-07-31 Thread Ken A
jdow wrote: From: "jdow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> postini.com is spewing an image spam that is getting through filters. Worse yet they are using acm.org as a relay More specifically the first one of these spams I received was from a Brazillian address. The next two, of a set of three, were

Re: postini.com

2006-07-31 Thread John D. Hardin
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, jdow wrote: > Is postini even remotely legitimate? What's even funnier is that they are a commercial spam filter service provider. This might really damage their reputation... Sample headers? -- John Hardin KA7OHZICQ#15735746http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [EMAI

Re: postini.com

2006-07-31 Thread jdow
From: "jdow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> postini.com is spewing an image spam that is getting through filters. Worse yet they are using acm.org as a relay More specifically the first one of these spams I received was from a Brazillian address. The next two, of a set of three, were relayed through

postini.com

2006-07-31 Thread jdow
postini.com is spewing an image spam that is getting through filters. Worse yet they are using acm.org as a relay {^_^}

Re: list of two level TLDs in SA

2006-07-31 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 01:19:21AM -0700, Jeff Chan wrote: > If that list comes from ours: > > http://spamcheck.freeapp.net/two-level-tlds > > Then you may want to refresh it as there have been a couple > additions. Neat, I'll check it out -- 135 new listings... (the list comes from the above

Re: Image spams getting thru

2006-07-31 Thread jdow
From: "Logan Shaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, jdow wrote: Break the image into pieces. If too many pieces match on MD5 sum then you score it higher than if lots of the image is different. But that can get tedious to say the least. And there's also an easy way around it. Simply

Re: Image spams getting thru

2006-07-31 Thread Logan Shaw
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, jdow wrote: Break the image into pieces. If too many pieces match on MD5 sum then you score it higher than if lots of the image is different. But that can get tedious to say the least. And there's also an easy way around it. Simply add noise to the image. There are a numb

Re: Image spams getting thru

2006-07-31 Thread jdow
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 01:57:52PM +0530, Ramprasad wrote: >> So if the spammer keeps generating different images for every spam mail >> then DCC RAZOR etc would be useless right ? > > An image is just content - much like text or HTML. How useful > DCC/RAZOR/etc.

Re: Image spams getting thru

2006-07-31 Thread jdow
From: "MennovB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> These image spams have recognizable strings, but normally not in the header. Just collect a few of them and compare (e.g. cat|sort the lines, you will always find similarities (sometimes only in the Mime-part but even that can work nicely and safe enough). You

Re: per user Bayesian filtering

2006-07-31 Thread Joe Harvell
I use Cyrus. How can I configure Cyrus to do this? Right now Spam Assassin is getting triggered due to my Postfix config: smtp inet n - n - - smtpd -o content_filter=sa sa unix- n n - - pipe user=spamd

Re: collecting spam(maybe offtopic)

2006-07-31 Thread Maurice Lucas
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 20:22 +0300, Michael wrote: > Hello! > It may be a strange request, but i need to collect spam for a research > project about the way spammers attack and the way they bypass the > antispam filters. > Obviously, for this project i need to collect spam in different ways

Re: collecting spam(maybe offtopic)

2006-07-31 Thread Gary D. Margiotta
Hello! It may be a strange request, but i need to collect spam for a research project about the way spammers attack and the way they bypass the antispam filters. Obviously, for this project i need to collect spam in different ways and on different types. Also, my project can be concludent only

Re: collecting spam(maybe offtopic)

2006-07-31 Thread David Cary Hart
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:22:21 +0300, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> opined: > Hello! > It may be a strange request, but i need to collect spam for a > research project about the way spammers attack and the way they > bypass the antispam filters. We have a very comprehensive database - about two ye

Re: Ah, an honest spammer!

2006-07-31 Thread Kelson
Loren Wilton wrote: Yep. No link. Not even a fake link. I guess I can't out of their "database" even if I want to. My favorite was one where the unsubscribe link had a space for a host name. The link was "http:// /optout.php?mail=(my email address)" What made it so great was the big long

collecting spam(maybe offtopic)

2006-07-31 Thread Michael
Hello! It may be a strange request, but i need to collect spam for a research project about the way spammers attack and the way they bypass the antispam filters. Obviously, for this project i need to collect spam in different ways and on different types. Also, my project can be concludent on

Re: Image spams getting thru

2006-07-31 Thread hamann . w
>> >> > On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 01:57:52PM +0530, Ramprasad wrote: >> >> So if the spammer keeps generating different images for every spam mail >> >> then DCC RAZOR etc would be useless right ? >> > >> > An image is just content - much like text or HTML. How useful >> > DCC/RAZOR/etc. would be

Re: Subject header not detected after folded header

2006-07-31 Thread Jim Maul
Ben Wylie wrote: Jim Maul wrote: Ben Wylie wrote: Am running SpamAssassin 3.1.2 on Windows 2003 server. This is an extract from the headers of an incoming email. This triggered the "MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject: header" rule. Why did this not detect the subject header? Because its blank?

Re: Subject header not detected after folded header

2006-07-31 Thread Ben Wylie
Jim Maul wrote: Ben Wylie wrote: Am running SpamAssassin 3.1.2 on Windows 2003 server. This is an extract from the headers of an incoming email. This triggered the "MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject: header" rule. Why did this not detect the subject header? Because its blank? my understandin

Re: Subject header not detected after folded header

2006-07-31 Thread Jim Maul
Ben Wylie wrote: Am running SpamAssassin 3.1.2 on Windows 2003 server. This is an extract from the headers of an incoming email. This triggered the "MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject: header" rule. Why did this not detect the subject header? Because its blank? X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsof

Subject header not detected after folded header

2006-07-31 Thread Ben Wylie
Am running SpamAssassin 3.1.2 on Windows 2003 server. This is an extract from the headers of an incoming email. This triggered the "MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject: header" rule. Why did this not detect the subject header? X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content

Re: Image spams getting thru

2006-07-31 Thread MennovB
These image spams have recognizable strings, but normally not in the header. Just collect a few of them and compare (e.g. cat|sort the lines, you will always find similarities (sometimes only in the Mime-part but even that can work nicely and safe enough). You could then make a Spamassassin rule f

Re: Image spams getting thru

2006-07-31 Thread qqqq
| Another idea was to check the images for correctness. Some spammers seem | to use slightly modified copies of a master image. These copies are | displayed correctly by the usual MUAs but they do contain errors that show | up when using Image::Info or something. | | Dirk I don't know much about

Re: Re: spamassasin learn

2006-07-31 Thread Nigel Frankcom
Hi Kailash, A lot depends on how you have things set up. Here I run a baseline of global settings with user options available; using MTS Professional mailserver (which has a lot of built in SA inter-operability) on Win32 and SA on CentOS with MySQL. Firstly, you can't put ham & spam in the same

Re: Image spams getting thru

2006-07-31 Thread dirk
> On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 01:57:52PM +0530, Ramprasad wrote: >> So if the spammer keeps generating different images for every spam mail >> then DCC RAZOR etc would be useless right ? > > An image is just content - much like text or HTML. How useful > DCC/RAZOR/etc. would be depends highly on how

Re: spamassasin learn

2006-07-31 Thread Kailash Vyas
Thanks Nigel for your help. As you say it has caught spam using the additional tests. will it not be marked as spam everytime in that case. how would it help me to make it learn from spam already marked as spam by spam assasin. Is there a way where I can train spamassasin by running sa-learn on m

Re: spamassasin learn

2006-07-31 Thread Nigel Frankcom
Hi, The sa-learn instruction trains the bayes database; without it bayes will not tag any messages. You need to do the training with at least 200 spam and 200 ham. Be very careful that the messages in each are correct, so no spam in the ham folder. There are options to learn from the mbox format

spamassasin learn

2006-07-31 Thread Kailash Vyas
Hi all, I am running SpamAssassin version 3.1.4. How do I make spamassasin learn. I have been reading about sa-learn where I am supposed to run sa-learn on a spam folder. But why should I run it on spam folder as i would assume that it should already be in spamassasin database as spamassasin has

Re: spam not detected

2006-07-31 Thread Obantec Support
- Original Message - From: "Beast" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 9:08 AM Subject: Re: spam not detected > Loren Wilton wrote: > >> > >> *X-Spam-Status:* No, score=3.8 required=5.2 > >> tests=BAYES_99,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, > >> HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=dis

cgpav: Error spam checking file

2006-07-31 Thread Tshering NORBU
Dear list, I have installed and configured spamassassin 3.1.3 on CommuniGate Pro on Red Hat 9 platform. However, I get the following error in systemlog (i.e. /var/log/messages: cgpav: Error spam checking file: /var/CommuniGate/Queue/21294134.msg I Googled and searched the archives for su

Re: Image spams getting thru

2006-07-31 Thread Tim
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 01:57:52PM +0530, Ramprasad wrote: > So if the spammer keeps generating different images for every spam mail > then DCC RAZOR etc would be useless right ? An image is just content - much like text or HTML. How useful DCC/RAZOR/etc. would be depends highly on how they ar

Re: Image spams getting thru

2006-07-31 Thread Ramprasad
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 18:22 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Does DCC, RAZOR, PYZOR, or any other signature algorithms work with > >> the image spams? It's not apparent from reading the man pages. It > >> seems to me that one could compare the signatures of attachments instead > >> of the who

Re: list of two level TLDs in SA

2006-07-31 Thread Jeff Chan
On Friday, July 28, 2006, 8:29:39 AM, Theo Dinter wrote: > On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 11:27:09AM -0400, Rob McEwen (PowerView Systems) > wrote: >> I wasn't involved in that URIBL listing which brought this up... but, BTW, >> I'd love to have that "two level TLD in SA" list handy. Therefore, can >>

Re: spam not detected

2006-07-31 Thread Beast
Loren Wilton wrote: *X-Spam-Status:* No, score=3.8 required=5.2 tests=BAYES_99,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.4 Bayes is doing fine. You can't get much better than Bayes_99 as a spam indicator. On the other hand, having Bayes_99 and three oth

Re: The way SA checks the URI for domainname.us.tt

2006-07-31 Thread Duncan Hill
On Saturday 29 July 2006 00:33, jdow wrote: > From: "Theo Van Dinter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Quoth Theo: > > Why? us.tt acts as a registrar (www.us.tt -> joynic.com), dolling out > .us.tt to others, so we want to be able to deal with that. > Same as other .tt 2TLDs. > Somebody got VERY clever w

Text::Wrap errors in log file

2006-07-31 Thread Steve Martin
I'm seeing lots of errors like the following recently... spamd[945]: (?:(?<=[\s,]))* matches null string many times in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/\G(?:(?<=[\s,]))* <-- HERE \Z/ at /System/ Library/Perl/5.8.6/Text/Wrap.pm line 46.\n Running 3.1.4 with Text::Wrap version 2006.711 -- Ste